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9/11 Truth for Dummies: Wrap Your Head Around One Thing

http://911explained.blogspot.com/2013/08/premise-official-st...

Premise, official story: a few floors at the top collapsed, starting a
chain reaction in which the collapse of each additional floor made the
total mass heavier, and driving it faster and faster toward the ground.
This is why the towers fell at virtual free-fall acceleration (virtual
as in 'very close to.') Free fall acceleration is the speed any object
falls through thin air to the ground. It is 10 meters per second, per
second (for every second an object is falling, it goes another 10 meters
per second faster. So a baseball falling for 3 seconds attains the
speed of 30 meters per second.)

Problem: Things that are heavier do not go faster than things that are
lighter, discounting negligible differences in air resistance. In a
vacuum, even a feather and a bowling ball would fall at the same speed.
The towers "fell" at the same rate as they would have fallen through
thin air. But steel, even soft steel, is thousands of times denser than
air.

Therefore, mass does not accelerate as it accumulates. In fact, it can
only go much slower than free-fall acceleration as it meets resistance.
This is common sense and what would have happened on 9/11 if the upper
floors of the towers had collapsed. The upper floors would have met the
resistance of floors below them, slowed down, and stopped. The mass
could not have fallen through steel at the same speed it would fall
through thin air.

There are many things wrong with the official story. You've heard them
all by now. Wrap your mind around this iron law of Newtonian physics, proven by Galileo,
and you will see that the collapsing mass could not have gone faster as
the mass got heavier. Therefore the official explanation for how the
towers disappeared so quickly is false.

Congratulations. You are no longer a dumbed-down American. You know
what the rest of the world which gets a science education in high school
knows: that the official 9/11 story is impossible. Not suspicious.
Not full of questions. But flat-out, physically IMPOSSIBLE.

By the way, the debate over whether heavy things fall faster than light
things has been going on since Aristotle. Galileo settled it. Galileo
also settled that the Earth goes around the sun. That's how far into
the Dark Ages 9/11 has taken us.

Proof that all objects of different weights fall to the ground at the same speed;

http://youtu.be/Z789eth4lFU

Ball and feather race in a vacuum:

http://youtu.be/ndFXXasM6ZE

9/11 story problem: Which 15 story block will hit the ground first?

Answer:

On 9/11 they both hit the ground at virtually the same time!

-If the 15 story section is falling at free fall speed ...

-All of its gravitational potential energy is converted to Kinetic Energy (movement)

-It is not available to do the work of "crushing" the building below!

-It would have to slow down in order to do any other work, i.e., "crushing 80,000 tons of structural steel below.

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Resources

The real 9/11 report, the Toronto Hearings (NIST invited to participate and debate but it declined.) Here at Amazon.com

Colorado PBS Runs 9/11 Film Sponsored by 9/11 Families: Experts Reject Official Story, Present Evidence of Demolition

Military Officers Question 9/11

"What we know and don’t know about 9/11," by Dr. Paul Craig Roberts, Assistant Secretary of the Treasury under President Ronald Reagan.

Firefighters for 911 Truth

Pilots for 911 Truth

Architects and Engineers for 911 Truth

911Research.net

"Who Did It? Technology of Autopilot/Remote Flight on 9/11, Motive, Means, Opportunity"

"911 Case Closed: Aerial Photo Shows Towers Were Exploded Outward, Did Not "Collapse"

The Easiest Way to Understand 9/11 Was a Demolition: Free-Fall

911: Shock and Awe Master Deed. Prosecute Giuliani.

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your life depends on HVAC/R systems.

whether you like it or not.

you avoid questions about LAW very well.

how about ANOTHER LAW question for you.

what is our Constitution and why do we have it. simple enough?

no actually

I respond very directly to law questions. The problem is that you group of fake law idiots will ask bullshit questions that are loaded with multiple false premises and which misuse terms of art, which makes them largely unanswerable. If they are in the middle of a gibberish wall of text then I certainly won't answer them because I won't read them. But I've cited extensive caselaw on this forum for my positions. You just don't like what it says, because it is reality.

"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."-- Albert Einstein

Obvious Satire?

The only thing obvious about you and your prose is that the author is a pretentious Dick.

Wha? .....hey....who stole my country?

only if

you're a conspiracy kook who has his fingers in his ears

"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."-- Albert Einstein

No, I'm pretty sure that anyone within your sphere...

of communication would find you an intolerable schmuck (big penis). (or you can use any other euphemism for penis that suits you better...putz (small penis) is probably more apropos.)

Wha? .....hey....who stole my country?

nope

only here do I find significant quantities and proportions of people who want to believe fervently things which are almost entirely implausible, just because they heard in a you tube video.

"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."-- Albert Einstein

hmmm...

and sometimes here you find people who have far more experience with matters at hand to see that implausibility lies in the story that they've been told, and that assholiness surrounds those that would ridicule them.

Were you to look for, or were you surrounded by such in the form of long time friends and coworkers, you'd find many people involved with both the manufacturing of structural steel and the manipulation and construction of such, to be quite suspicious of the story you seemly swallow with condiments and foolishly upchuck at the drop of a hat. Of course, they are not interviewed by the media...nor did NIST ask for their opinions. But their (and my) opinions spring from a long history of interaction with steel that far outweighs a Youtube video...though there is much truth displayed in Youtube videos.

Building 7 provides the smoking gun for most...the nature and behavior of steel says it all for me and many, many blast furnace operators and iron workers. So , keep up your tongue in cheek crapola as if it hides that you have something banging repeatedly in and out of your mouth...hopefully you are being paid for such services. That it took you until recently to find this blog says something about your powers of observation, or deduction, or reasoning...or something.

Wha? .....hey....who stole my country?

oh I get it

because I posted something in this thread, and in that post said something other than "oh yes you know everything about 9-11 you guru of knowledge you" then you assume that means I have some other, highly specific opinion which is identical to some official government position.

That's a whole lot of faulty supposition on your part. Not that that ever stopped you before.

"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."-- Albert Einstein

"Faulty supposition" rarely accompanies…

assuming that someone who uses the words "Conspiracy Kooks" is somehow sitting on the fence with regards to a "highly specific opinion". Whadda dolt. You aren't very good at this are you?

Wha? .....hey....who stole my country?

good at what?

sucking up to wanna be conspiracy gurus who watch Alex Jones videos all day? No, I'm not good at that. I'll have to live with it.

"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."-- Albert Einstein

why is this jackass tolerated?

he contributes nothing and uses poor language skills.

oh the irony

in your response

"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."-- Albert Einstein

Sarcasm, right?

Naturally they would have black jackets lettered across the back with "Demolition Expert!" Not just more louts lugging boxes on two-wheelers and carrying paint rollers.

Release the Sandy Hook video.

Black Jackets...

with Controlled Demolitions, Inc. and name tags...;-) Special colored Hard Hats for easy supervisory status identifications and special lime green hats for explosive safety officers securing and overseeing all of the large crates spread around the buildings...lets not forget the walkie-talkies and OSHA safety glasses...

But hey, his company had offices there and if anything like this was going on...he'd freakin' know about it.

Wha? .....hey....who stole my country?

thousands of lbs of high

thousands of lbs of high explosives. 4-5 miles of demolition wiring. 50 thousand people worked in the Towers. People that think the buildings could have been wired up for demolition belong in a rubber room so they can bounce off walls.

Ridicule ...

... is the logical fallacy resorted to by the person who knows he has lost the argument.

So,then

Other than explaining your motivations are you know out of substantive responses?

"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."-- Albert Einstein

you are a pest, who contributes nothing.

.

Perspective

A poster contributed a thoughtful substantive response.

Conspire kook responds by saying it was ridicule.

I say the shoe is on the other foot, just as it is when we log off!

"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."-- Albert Einstein

you are talking to me now pal.

and YES!
I do high rise HVAC work!

"a thoughtful substantive response."
please substantiate your preposition.

or are you Chicken!
bawk! bawk!

You make less sense than anyone here

And I suspect that you're no more tough than you are witty.

"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."-- Albert Einstein

yep. you nailed it MAN.

your reputation is well... deserved.

"The chickenator"

how could ANYONE dispute that concept?

Dolt.

Thousands of Lbs. of High Explosives...and no one saw the crate nor any delivery truck so of course it couldn't have happened. Have you ever seen "High Explosives"? Of course not. Have you ever seen what...say a small amount of C4 can achieve outside of a Hollywood film? No, of course you haven't. If you had...you wouldn't be wondering when or where the tractor trailer delivering the "High Explosives" came from...or went. Apparently you haven't heard of radio frequencies or detonation switches even when someone posts a picture of them on this thread. Eyes roll.

I've been in those building many, many times...my father worked there in the 70's. Sue's comment about a small city that no one takes any notice of anyone elese is far more the scenario than yours.

So, how many trucks, delivery vans and bicycles visited the WTC delivery/loading docks each day and how many "crates, packages, box's and the like do you think were inspected for "High Explosives" each day? Assuming that this operation was quite long in the planning, how might the materials needed be imported into the buildings? What exactly might have been used when chemical residues of non-common materials have been found in the dust of the buildings.

If a bicycle deliveryman could carry say a 5 lb. package to an office in the building, how many visits would he have to make to bring in say 100lbs. of C4 (not that C4 has anything to do with this but it is a "High Explosive" of the known genre)? Could, in your somehow steel structured reality, relatively small amounts of a methodology designed to bring down steel structure buildings, have been brought in and installed piecemeal and over time? No? It had to be a major production complete with signs and tape to hold back onlookers?

Maybe not. So, who stops the currier, or the Telephone repairman, or the copier service guy, the man in the suit with the briefcase, the food service worker, or the janitor, or the security officer, or........

Open your eyes, stop thinking so much, and speak softly to yourself...and as you listen to yourself maybe with patience and in the absence of the din created from a cacophony of "knowns" firing off in your head, you'll understand just how ludicrous your belief system sounds when uttered out loud.

Wha? .....hey....who stole my country?

the floors were supported by the columns that made up ...

the elevator shafts and the exterior columns that were the aluminum clad exterior walls.

Once the top started, the outside supports snapped their welds and fell away ahead of when the floors above hit. There was already a running start.

Hence the appearance of free fall.

Just another alternative.

"The truth is we do not know the truth."

I've been doing a little

I've been doing a little research and the free fall time for something at 1366ft/416m (WTC tower height)is 9.2 seconds with a terminal speed of 201mph. I found estimates for the north and south tower fall times between 14 and 16 seconds. Also they didn't fall all the way to the ground, they landed on a pile of rubble.

"Problem: Things that are heavier do not go faster than things that are lighter, discounting negligible differences in air resistance."

Problem with this problem: The two towers were not traveling through air, they were moving against the lower part of the building. In this case the more weight you have the faster something will go. Try pounding a 16 penny nail in with a toothpick or a hammer and see which gets the job done quicker.

"In a vacuum, even a feather and a bowling ball would fall at the same speed."

That's true.

"The towers "fell" at the same rate as they would have fallen through
thin air. But steel, even soft steel, is thousands of times denser than air."

They didn't fall at free fall speed.

My two cents is that since the north tower was hit lower than the south tower it had more weight resting on the damage done by the plane so it collapsed first. I saw where they placed explosives in a dam but it took a while for the weight of the water to destroy the weakened dam, same with the towers.

I think it's possible for explosives to have been put in the buildings but overloaded transformers can explode with violent force too, look on YouTube.

I'm with James Corbett on this, the towers fell, let's find out who is responsible and quit worrying about how they fell.

Was logic used in your assessment?

Even if the amout of damage that plane did was enough to cause the affected area to collaspe, the rate at which the lower floors collapsed would have slowed the rate significantly especially since the lower floors get progressively stronger to carry the initial weight of the construction.

Take a hundred foot tall tree, now remove a 20 foot section (20%) of the tree at the 30 ft. mark, let the top half of the tree pile drive that 30 foot base, what do expexct will happen to the base? Do you think the top half will continue all the way down to the ground without any resistance?

You might say that this is apples and oranges, but the fact still remains that the center of the towers were built as the load carriers, like a tree trunk, so why didn't even a small protion break through all the falling debris and remain standing?

Even using your toothpick and hammer analogy the south tower would have fallen at a much slower rate due to the "hammer" being much smaller and we all know that is not the case.

It is one of the essential features of such incompetence that the person so afflicted is incapable of knowing that he is incompetent. To have such knowledge would already be to remedy a good portion of the offense.

They did find nano-thermite

They did find nano-thermite in the dust so this could have been a factor. I saw where you can use iron oxide paint and add aluminum powder to it to make a thermite paint. This could be applied without suspicion even by the painters.


http://youtu.be/OPs25Jj8_As

Oh Lord. You aren't one those are you?

The thermite paint theory?

Is that where your hat hangs?

I look at all the theory's I

I look at all the theory's I find and some can be dismissed out of hand and others are possible. There appears to be evidence of fore knowledge in regards to 9/11 which if true means that things could have been done to help the buildings collapse.

I think it will be like Pearl Harbor, Gulf of Tonkin, and the Kennedy assassination, we won't find out the truth for 20 or 30 years.

Your theory is crazy, but it's not crazy enough to be true.
Niels Bohr, to a young physicist


http://youtu.be/8_tf25lx_3o

Well ...

Youtube video aside.

Let me be the first to clue you in.

The thermite paint theory, is impossible.

Forget about the logistics.

There is no such thing as thermite paint ...

therefore ...

it was not used on 9/11.

LOL