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ALERT! Syria War Averted? Advantage Sergey Lavrov & the Ruskies; WaPo: Putin & Obama reach Deal on Syria - Sept. 13, 2013!

John Kerry Holds Press Conference To Explain Agreement Reached On Syrian Peace Deal

http://youtu.be/HOhK2rdgrhs
Published on Sep 14, 2013
September 12, 2013 Russia Today News
http://MOXNews.com

U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry says plan envisages complete destruction of Syria's chemical arsenal by mid-2014; Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov stresses deal contains nothing about potential use of force if Syria fails to comply.

U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry and Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said Saturday they have reached an agreement on a framework for Syria to destroy all of its chemical weapons, and would seek a UN Security Council resolution that could authorize sanctions — short of military action — if President Bashar Assad's government fails to comply.

The deal averts the possibility of any immediate U.S. military action against Assad's government.

** FYI: when I say "Putin & oBUSHma," I mean via their functionaries Sergey Lavrov & John Kerry:

U.S., Russia reach agreement on seizure of Syrian chemical weapons arsenal

By Anne Gearan, Colum Lynch and Karen DeYoung
September 13, 2013

GENEVA — The United States and Russia agreed Saturday on an outline for the identification and seizure of Syrian chemical weapons and said Syria must turn over an accounting of its arsenal within a week.

The agreement will be backed by a U.N. Security Council resolution that could allow for sanctions or other consequences if Syria fails to comply, Secretary of State John F. Kerry said.

Kerry said that the first international inspection of Syrian chemical weapons will take place by November, with destruction to begin next year.

Senior administration officials had said Friday the Obama administration would not press for U.N. authorization to use force against Syria if it reneges on any agreement to give up its chemical weapons.

The Russians had made clear in talks here between Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov and Kerry that the negotiations could not proceed under the threat of a U.N. resolution authorizing a military strike. Russia also wanted assurances that a resolution would not refer Syrian President Bashar al-Assad to the International Criminal Court for possible war-crimes prosecution.

H/T: Bob Wenzel

Related Article: Lavrov & Kerry began negotiating behind the scenes

U.S.-Russia talks on Syria chemical arsenal begin on tense note

By Anne Gearan and Karen DeYoung
September 12, 2013

GENEVA — U.S.-Russia talks over eliminating Syria’s chemical weapons began here Thursday on a wary and stilted note, as Secretary of State John F. Kerry said U.S. military forces remain poised to attack Syria if a credible agreement is not rapidly reached and implemented.

Syrian President Bashar al-Assad added to the tension by saying that he is willing to place his chemical arsenal under international control — but only if the United States stops threatening military action and arming rebel forces trying to unseat him.

Assad, in an interview with a Russian television station, said he is prepared to sign the international convention banning the weapons and would adhere to its “standard procedure” of handing over stockpile data a month later.

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Never heard of Sergey Lavrov?

Well, get ready to familiarize yourselves with that name; apparently Ron Paul Inst. Academic Board of Advisors member Hillary Mann Everett concludes that in her decades of experience at the highest levels of the US National Security Council and international affairs, in her informed opinion, Sergey Lavrov is THE most intelligent man she's ever met in the field of international relations and diplomacy. Watch him, like a hawk: he is the voice of Putin and Russia, on the international scenes, BEHIND the scenes. He's of Armenian and Georgian heritage; in that region, often, your genetic lineage and butt of geopolitical interplays that one grew up under dictate their informed adult views, more than anything. And, apparently, a very talented polyglot:

Soon he learned Sinhalese, the official language of Sri Lanka, as well as Dhivehi, the official language of the Maldives. Moreover, Lavrov learned English and French, but has stated that he is unable to speak the French language fluently.

So, Russian, Armenian & Georgian (purely my speculation, but I've yet to meet any diplomat who speaks multiple languages and NOT speak his own mother's and father's native tongue), English, Sinhalese, Dhivehi, and some French? Yup. A polyglot.

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UPDATE 1: Mox's RT video of Lavrov & Kerry press conference added to the top of the thread; will probably update, when HD video from RT's own page is posted.

UPDATE 2: Guardian UK's take: Averted? Psych! oBUSHma speaking out of both sides of his mouth; immediate military option off table, but still MAY act...later on.

Obama welcomes Syria chemical weapons deal but retains strikes option
US and Russia reach Geneva agreement to destroy Syria stockpile by mid-2014 but differ on steps to be taken if plan fails

Paul Lewis
September 14, 2013

President Barack Obama has welcomed an agreement to disarm Syria of its chemical arsenal as an “important, concrete” step that could prevent the weapons from being used elsewhere in the world. However, he also signalled that he was still prepared to launch military strikes if the disarmament plan failed.

The deal, the result of three days of talks between the US and Russia in Geneva, requires Syria to provide a comprehensive list of its chemical weapons within a week and to allow inspectors into the country by November. Chemical weapons stockpiles are to be removed or destroyed by the middle of next year.

“This framework provides the opportunity for the elimination of Syrian chemical weapons in a transparent, expeditious, and verifiable manner, which could end the threat these weapons pose not only to the Syrian people but to the region and the world,” the US president said. “The international community expects the Assad regime to live up to its public commitments.”

The agreement effectively confirms that US military strikes against Syria, which just six days ago Washington was indicating were imminent, will not happen in the short term. The White House announced earlier in the week that it had put on hold an attempt to request authorisation for military force from Congress.

H/T: InfoWars.com

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UPDATE 3:

Jane's Defence Weekly: HALF of Syrian Rebels = AlQaeda; Have begun Forced-Brainwashing Youths & Civilians w/Jihadist Extremism!

Syrian Rebels Praise Bin Laden, Celebrate 9/11 Attacks

http://youtu.be/vsq5ZRir-0k
SyrianRebelWatch
Published on Jan 1, 2013

[To read a translation of their chant, read further below, at the bottom of the thread]

One of the World's most authoritative voices on all things defense, IHS Jane's Defence Weekly, has just come out with a finding that further puts doubts into oBUSHma's war footing in Syria:

Syria: nearly half rebel fighters are jihadists or hardline Islamists, says IHS Jane's report
Nearly half the rebel fighters in Syria are now aligned to jihadist or hardline Islamist groups according to a new analysis of factions in the country's civil war.

By Ben Farmer, Defence Correspondent, and Ruth Sherlock in Beirut
7:17PM BST 15 Sep 2013

Opposition forces battling Bashar al-Assad's regime in Syria now number around 100,000 fighters, but after more than two years of fighting they are fragmented into as many as 1,000 bands.

The new study by IHS Jane's, a defence consultancy, estimates there are around 10,000 jihadists - who would include foreign fighters - fighting for powerful factions linked to al-Qaeda.

[...]

Two factions linked to al-Qaeda, Jabhat al-Nusra and the Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant (ISIL) - also know as the Islamic State of Iraq and al-Shams (ISIS) - have come to dominate among the more extremist fighters, Mr Lister said. Their influence has risen significantly in the past year.

AFP (Agence France Presse) wire article at FauxNews and Yahoo News:

Half of Syrian rebels are hardline Islamists: British study

AFP | Published September 15, 2013

Jihadists and members of hardline Islamist groups make up almost half of forces fighting against Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, according to extracts from a British defence study published in Monday's Daily Telegraph.

The analysis by defence consultancy IHS Jane's, due to be published in full later this week, puts the number of rebel forces at around 100,000, the Telegraph reported.

But these fighters have split into as many as 1,000 bands since violence flared two years ago, the study concluded.

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Most notable part cited in the above Telegraph article, however, was at the end of that article; as further emphasized by InfoWars, is the following troubling trend: 'brainwashing' youths and ordinary Syrians into extremist Islamist Jihadists.

ISIS has also begun a programme of “indoctrination” of civilians in rebel-held areas, trying to educate Syria’s traditionally moderate Sunni Muslims into a more hard-line interpretation of Islam.

The Following was posted in the description box, for the YouTube video posted at the top of this thread:

01/01/12) Footage of a Syrian Opposition Demonstration in which participants sing an Al Qaeda song reminscing upon the 'sweet memory' of the 9/11 attacks and praising Bin Laden as their leader. This isn't the first time the song has been featured at opposition demonstrations at which Al Qaeda flags are commonplace.

Basic Verse translation of the song in question which is a well known Al Qaeda hymn.

"If they call me a 'terrorist', I would say: 'It is an honor for me'
Our terror is praised, with a divine calling

Our leader, the Mullah (Omar), did not forsake his religion
All the soldiers have sold their souls to Allah

Our leader bin Laden, America's worst nightmare
With the power of faith and our weapons

We destroyed America with a civilian plane
The World Trade Centre was turned into a pile of rubble




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updated

UPDATE 3:

Jane's Defence Weekly: HALF of Syrian Rebels = AlQaeda; Have begun Forced-Brainwashing Youths & Civilians w/Jihadist Extremism!

Syrian Rebels Praise Bin Laden, Celebrate 9/11 Attacks

http://youtu.be/vsq5ZRir-0k
SyrianRebelWatch
Published on Jan 1, 2013

[To read a translation of their chant, read further below, at the bottom of the thread]

One of the World's most authoritative voices on all things defense, IHS Jane's Defence Weekly, has just come out with a finding that further puts doubts into oBUSHma's war footing in Syria:

Syria: nearly half rebel fighters are jihadists or hardline Islamists, says IHS Jane's report
Nearly half the rebel fighters in Syria are now aligned to jihadist or hardline Islamist groups according to a new analysis of factions in the country's civil war.

By Ben Farmer, Defence Correspondent, and Ruth Sherlock in Beirut
7:17PM BST 15 Sep 2013

Opposition forces battling Bashar al-Assad's regime in Syria now number around 100,000 fighters, but after more than two years of fighting they are fragmented into as many as 1,000 bands.

The new study by IHS Jane's, a defence consultancy, estimates there are around 10,000 jihadists - who would include foreign fighters - fighting for powerful factions linked to al-Qaeda.

[...]

Two factions linked to al-Qaeda, Jabhat al-Nusra and the Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant (ISIL) - also know as the Islamic State of Iraq and al-Shams (ISIS) - have come to dominate among the more extremist fighters, Mr Lister said. Their influence has risen significantly in the past year.

AFP (Agence France Presse) wire article at FauxNews and Yahoo News:

Half of Syrian rebels are hardline Islamists: British study

AFP | Published September 15, 2013

Jihadists and members of hardline Islamist groups make up almost half of forces fighting against Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, according to extracts from a British defence study published in Monday's Daily Telegraph.

The analysis by defence consultancy IHS Jane's, due to be published in full later this week, puts the number of rebel forces at around 100,000, the Telegraph reported.

But these fighters have split into as many as 1,000 bands since violence flared two years ago, the study concluded.

***************************************************************

Most notable part cited in the above Telegraph article, however, was at the end of that article; as further emphasized by InfoWars, is the following troubling trend: 'brainwashing' youths and ordinary Syrians into extremist Islamist Jihadists.

ISIS has also begun a programme of “indoctrination” of civilians in rebel-held areas, trying to educate Syria’s traditionally moderate Sunni Muslims into a more hard-line interpretation of Islam.

The Following was posted in the description box, for the YouTube video posted at the top of this thread:

01/01/12) Footage of a Syrian Opposition Demonstration in which participants sing an Al Qaeda song reminscing upon the 'sweet memory' of the 9/11 attacks and praising Bin Laden as their leader. This isn't the first time the song has been featured at opposition demonstrations at which Al Qaeda flags are commonplace.

Basic Verse translation of the song in question which is a well known Al Qaeda hymn.

"If they call me a 'terrorist', I would say: 'It is an honor for me'
Our terror is praised, with a divine calling

Our leader, the Mullah (Omar), did not forsake his religion
All the soldiers have sold their souls to Allah

Our leader bin Laden, America's worst nightmare
With the power of faith and our weapons

We destroyed America with a civilian plane
The World Trade Centre was turned into a pile of rubble

Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

Smells like weapons

Smells like weapons inspections in Iraq.

Why Stop With Syria?

Every country that has WMD (i.e., nuclear, chemical, biological, etc.) should destroy them.

The common talking points

The common talking points theme running through all mainstream media news channels;

Most reporters and commentators are all pissed off Obama didn't attack Syria like he said he would, going over the heads of Congress and the will of the American people.

It's telling who the real enemy of the American people are. Just turn on MSM TV news and look at all the filthy disgusting MSM employees.

Warning, the insane incoherent babbling from livid egotistical control freak reporters may be harmful to your home.

lol. should tell those propagandists to

pack their shiit up, so we can send 'em all to the frontlines to fight FOR Al-CIA-duh, seeing as how they're so eager to murder innocent Syrians who have very little to do with armed sectarian civil war.

then, wait for them to line up, to that registry...in like, never?

Yup. exactly.

So sick and tired of loud pansy, sociopathic nerds talking 'tough' shiit, like murder is just one or two videogame button tapping or one headline away, so they can go back to their insecure cubby holes and stroke their childish egos.

WhoTF made these creatures and decided to toxify the Earth with them?

Oy veh.

Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

London Guardian (Guardian UK)'s take? oBUSHma's BS rhetoric

UPDATE 2: Guardian UK's take: Averted? Psych! oBUSHma speaking out of both sides of his mouth; immediate military option off table, but still MAY act...later on.

Obama welcomes Syria chemical weapons deal but retains strikes option
US and Russia reach Geneva agreement to destroy Syria stockpile by mid-2014 but differ on steps to be taken if plan fails

Paul Lewis
September 14, 2013

President Barack Obama has welcomed an agreement to disarm Syria of its chemical arsenal as an “important, concrete” step that could prevent the weapons from being used elsewhere in the world. However, he also signalled that he was still prepared to launch military strikes if the disarmament plan failed.

The deal, the result of three days of talks between the US and Russia in Geneva, requires Syria to provide a comprehensive list of its chemical weapons within a week and to allow inspectors into the country by November. Chemical weapons stockpiles are to be removed or destroyed by the middle of next year.

“This framework provides the opportunity for the elimination of Syrian chemical weapons in a transparent, expeditious, and verifiable manner, which could end the threat these weapons pose not only to the Syrian people but to the region and the world,” the US president said. “The international community expects the Assad regime to live up to its public commitments.”

The agreement effectively confirms that US military strikes against Syria, which just six days ago Washington was indicating were imminent, will not happen in the short term. The White House announced earlier in the week that it had put on hold an attempt to request authorisation for military force from Congress.

H/T: InfoWars.com

Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

UPDATE: Lavrov & Kerry press conference - FULL

UPDATE 1:

John Kerry Holds Press Conference To Explain Agreement Reached On Syrian Peace Deal

http://youtu.be/HOhK2rdgrhs
Published on Sep 14, 2013
September 12, 2013 Russia Today News
http://MOXNews.com

U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry says plan envisages complete destruction of Syria's chemical arsenal by mid-2014; Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov stresses deal contains nothing about potential use of force if Syria fails to comply.

U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry and Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said Saturday they have reached an agreement on a framework for Syria to destroy all of its chemical weapons, and would seek a UN Security Council resolution that could authorize sanctions — short of military action — if President Bashar Assad's government fails to comply.

The deal averts the possibility of any immediate U.S. military action against Assad's government.

Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

updated

links & content.

also, a minor note, I've seen the more common iteration "Sergei" with the "-i" spelling for Lavrov, vs. the "-y" as in "Sergey." I thought it was the former, but guess it's used almost interchangeably.

Any Russophiles here?

Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul