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Syria's "Chemical Weapons" vs 'Ours' and the Reality of Genotype-specific BioWeapons proposed by PNAC, Israel & South Africa

Depleted Uranium, Napalm, White Phosphorous in All Their Glory

http://youtu.be/WuMCO-wjqDM

Personally, I've always found the term "Anti-Semite" itself to be hilariously ironic, especially when invoked by those who'd politically, physically oppress and discriminate against their own genetically Semitic brethren: the Palestinians.

The shared genetic heritage of Jews and Palestinians

What they revealed was that Arabs and Jews are essentially a single population, and that Palestinians are slap bang in the middle of the different Jewish populations (as shown in this figure).

By Tomas Rees on Tuesday, January 20, 2009

The Times recently carried this unusual report on an Israeli Jew (Tsvi Misinai, a retired computer expert) who's hoping to prove that Palestinians are descended from Jews. Apparently, he thinks that proving this will help to stop the bloodshed. His idea is that modern Jews are descended from emigration in the first few centuries of the Christian era. The Jews who stayed put in Palestine converted to Islam, and became Palestinian Arabs. There's hope that genetic tests might be able to prove this.

Well, there is good news and bad news on that score.

The good news is that the genetics of Arabs and Jews have been pretty extensively researched. The classic study dates to 2000, from a team lead by Michael Hammer of University of Arizona. They looked at Y-chromosome haplotypes - this is the genetic material passed from father to son down the generations.

and, from one of the most respected science journals: NATURE

Jews worldwide share genetic ties
But analysis also reveals close links to Palestinians and Italians.

Alla Katsnelson

Published online 3 June 2010 | Nature | doi:10.1038/news.2010.277

Different communities of Jews around the world share more than just religious or cultural practices — they also have strong genetic commonalities, according to the largest genetic analysis of Jewish people to date.

But the study also found strong genetic ties to non-Jewish groups, with the closest genetic neighbours on the European side being Italians, and on the Middle Eastern side the Druze, Bedouin and Palestinians.

Researchers in New York and Tel Aviv conducted a genome-wide analysis on 237 individuals from seven well-established Jewish communities around the world, hailing from Iran, Iraq, Italy, Greece, Turkey, Syria and eastern Europe. The team then compared these genetic profiles to those of non-Jews in the same geographic regions based on data from the Human Genome Diversity Project, a database of genomic information for individuals from populations worldwide. Each group of Jews is genetically distinct, but similarities between the groups weave them together with what the researchers describe as "genetic thread".

Then, more recently, from the Jewish Paper "FORWARD," May 07, 2013, issue of May 10, 2013:

'Jews a Race' Genetic Theory Comes Under Fierce Attack by DNA Expert
Israeli Scientist Challenges Hypothesis of Middle East Origins

Science Feud: Johns Hopkins geneticist Eran Elhaik says his research debunks the long-held theory that Jews are a single race. Photo: Rita Rubin

”It’s so obvious for me,” Sand told the journal. “Some people, historians and even scientists, turn a blind eye to the truth. Once, to say Jews were a race was anti-Semitic, now to say they’re not a race is anti-Semitic. It’s crazy how history plays with us.”

Dr. Eran Elhaik's paper in question: The Missing Link of Jewish European Ancestry: Contrasting the Rhineland and the Khazarian Hypotheses (as published in December 14, 2013, in the online journal Genome Biology and Evolution)

By Rita Rubin
Published May 07, 2013, issue of May 10, 2013.

Scientists usually don’t call each other “liars” and “frauds.”

But that’s how Johns Hopkins University post-doctoral researcher Eran Elhaik describes a group of widely respected geneticists, including Harry Ostrer, professor of pathology and genetics at Yeshiva University’s Albert Einstein College of Medicine and author of the 2012 book “Legacy: A Genetic History of the Jewish People.”

For years now, the findings of Ostrer and several other scientists have stood virtually unchallenged on the genetics of Jews and the story they tell of the common Middle East origins shared by many Jewish populations worldwide. Jews — and Ashkenazim in particular — are indeed one people, Ostrer’s research finds.

It’s a theory that more or less affirms the understanding that many Jews themselves hold of who they are in the world: a people who, though scattered, share an ethnic-racial bond rooted in their common ancestral descent from the indigenous Jews of ancient Judea or Palestine, as the Romans called it after they conquered the Jewish homeland.

But now, Elhaik, an Israeli molecular geneticist, has published research that he says debunks this claim. And that has set off a predictable clash.

And, of course, the usual, the Predictable Party No.1; the now de rigueur ensuing AIPAC/Likudnik/NeoCon attacks, and counter-attacks:

Israeli Researcher Challenges Jewish DNA links to Israel, Calls Those Who Disagree 'Nazi Sympathizers'

Jon Entine, Contributor
Op/Ed | 5/16/2013 @ 4:26PM |11,135 views

The Genetic Literacy Project reports that the ongoing conflict between Israel and its neighbors over the origins of the “Jewish people” has surfaced again as an issue of great controversy—with science in the crosshairs.

It’s particularly troublesome when a scientist—in this case, an Israeli molecular geneticist whose motivations appear more personal and ideological than scientific—stokes the contretemps. The current brouhaha arises over a recent study by Eran Elhaik and is accompanied by his personal attacks on more mainstream scientists who have eviscerated his work. In the face of overwhelming evidence from dozens of studies over twenty years from geneticists and historians around the world, Elhaik is aggressively stumping on behalf of his belief that most Jews trace their seminal ancestry not to the Middle East but to the Caucuses and Eastern Europe.

Elhaik, who is now a post-doctoral researcher at Johns Hopkins, is recirculating the debunked “Khazarian hypothesis” promoted by journalist Arthur Koestler in his 1976 book, The Thirteenth Tribe, written before scientists had the tools to compare genomes and challenge his conclusion.

And, the Predictable Party No.2, the official Iranian-state Media: Press TV; of course whether valid or not, a predictably more sensationalist headline:

Zionists design myth of Jewish genome to usurp Palestine
On Decemever 14, 2012, Dr. Eran Elhaik turned almost two generations of Jewish genome research upside down. But he went even further. The young Israeli-Ameican geneticist has charged former researchers with academic fraud, and he has the research to back it up.

Wed Feb 27, 2013 1:37PM
By Jim W. Dean

How could those those eminent Jewish scientist before him have been so wrong? Easy says Dr. Elhaik, “First these researchers decided what conclusions they wanted to find, and then they set off to find evidence to support it.” I was not bashing Jewish scientists. What Elhaik has described is a slam dunk fraud.

But why? Why would Jews who take such pride in the academic achievement risk exposing themselves to a group deception which was bound to be discovered later? Dr. Elhaik does not delve into the quicksand of the politics, but I will gladly do so.

They perpetrated the fraud solely to support the bogus biblical claim to Palestine which was anchored in their being a separate people. This distinguished them from all others because they claimed a land title in their blood. They bet the farm on this DNA proof of purchase, a God given bar coded passport to the Palestine. Dr. Ehaik just erased the bar code. It was just stamped on anyway, because it was never in the blood.

Now, the question and now historically and scientifically factual, emerging theory of Khazari genetic lineage & origin of modern Jews aside (if the Google AFP News link doesn't work, simply StartPage.com an AFP article dated Jan 16, 2013 "Gene study settles debate over origin of European Jews"), how did they find out that Palestinians are in fact 'Semites,' as well, long before Dr. Ehaik's findings?

Well, long before Dipshiit Cheney & co promoted the use of gene-specific bioweapons, as cited on page 60 of their public PNAC paper, Rebuilding America's Defenses:

http://www.newamericancentury.org/RebuildingAmericasDefenses...

Information systems will become an important focus of attack, particularly for U.S. enemies seeking to short-circuit sophisticated American forces. And advanced forms of biological warfare that can 'target' specific genotypes may transform biological warfare from the realm of terror to a politically useful tool.

the apartheid govt of South Africa was deluded in their desperation, actually sought to genetically eliminate the entire black population, regardless of the fact that all humans are about 99% similar, biologically, so the markers would have to be those ONLY existent in their target 'races,' which as you may have guessed, a bit daunting.

And whom did they hire to pursue this post-Hitlerian eugenicist task? Irony of ironies, and apparently heirs to Wannsee acolytes: Israeli, Jewish geneticists.

Only if Mengele could see the fruit of his labors...

Seriously, HOW FCUKED UP IS IT, that those who cannot finish a sentence without reminding the world about "the six million," would turn around, sit, take time to convene a meeting to discuss a "Final Solution" of their own, vs. their own perceived enemies of a specific genetic lineage??

But, what did they find, when those same assholes were hired by the Israeli govt to do the same (Yes, The Sunday Times of London, UK, NOT the Nat. Inquirer, mind you; of course now they want to erase it's ever been reported by putting up a pay-wall)? Palestinians and Jews are genetically, almost identical: to murder them with bio-weapons, would mean dooming themselves.

Cosmic Karma, I'd say.

Oh, and of course, those dutiful AIPAC-whores in denial, would pen a denial.

But then, what about the London Times? UCLA studies? Established WaPo's actual investigative journalists (.MIL link, "Find" "Washington Post in April 2003": it's referring to Joby Warrick and John Mintz's article “Lethal Legacy: Bioweapons for Sale,” dated April 20, 2003"), South Africa's own Reconciliation Commission's records? Known thinktanks?

But...but...but...it's all an internet "conspiracy!" because if you scream and claim and pretend something's BS long enough, it become real! Yay!

LOL: WTF is reality, when the first thing they tell themselves whenever someone criticizes them and their eugenicist worldviews, is deny, deny, deny?

Hilariously, from The Atlantic, a rag with practically the same range of views as Salon ('liberal' with the occasional token Likudniks) along with same base of audience, comes an article that basically confirms the feasibility of the tech/its usage and the threat of its use is very real, so real that POTUS and those 'protecting' him are concerned about it.

LOL. Ah... it wouldn't be L vs. R bowel-'movement liberals' if they didn't contradict themselves, like every other minute, with cognitive dissonance.

But what else is new?

Humans, such ridiculously funny, weird creatures. But, suppose one day, they may outgrow their delusional worldviews...

P.S. 1: But for those of you who may have just recently taken the 'Red Pill' and think all this is crazy talk? I assure you, govt terrorist crazies and their sycophantic turd sociopathic nerds at DARPA are far, far, far, far, far, far, far, far, far more crazier, than you could even possibly imagine or fathom.

To wit, I schit you not, behold, the "Gay Bomb:"

BBC, Saturday, Jan. 15, 2005, 06:38 GMT:
US military pondered love not war
The US military investigated building a "gay bomb", which would make enemy soldiers "sexually irresistible" to each other, government papers say.

ABC 'News,' June 21, 2007:
Fringe Science Yields 'Gay Bombs' and Psychic Teleportation

WIRED Magazine Dec. 10, 2007, 3:51 PM:
The Gay Bomb Lives!

LiveScience.com via FauxNews, Dec. 11, 2007:
Scientists Make Fruit Flies Gay, Then Straight Again

Yes, "gay bomb"... 'your' tax dollars at work.

P.S. 2: Here's an insight into how the Vaccines, as they are today, are used as a soft-kill weapon, basically came to be; from the horse's own mouthpiece: the 'other' (un)official magazine of the CFR, "Foreign Policy"; note this is an article on bioweapons, NOT vaccines, and yet...

Biological Weapons

AUGUST 8, 2006

After 9/11, U.S. spending on defenses against biological attacks got a shot in the arm. Between 2001 and 2006, the budget for biodefense medical research and development at the National Institutes of Health increased from $50 million to $1.8 billion. Five years later, it turns out there might be some unlikely beneficiaries of this bounty: poor people in the developing world.

The extra money being poured into bioterror preparedness could result in a revolution in global public health -- to the benefit of the world's most vulnerable citizens. New vaccines, medicines, and techniques designed to deal with diseases unleashed by terrorists may also combat naturally occurring outbreaks. Tara O'Toole, director of the Center for Biosecurity at the University of Pittsburgh Medical Center and a former assistant secretary of energy, argues that "if we do what is necessary for biodefense... we could conceivably in a generation eliminate large-scale, lethal epidemics of infectious disease everywhere.

But here's the real reason:

Vaccines are notoriously unprofitable, so pharmaceutical companies have often shown little interest in developing them. But fears of a biological attack have led the U.S. government to fund new vaccine breakthroughs for ebola, the Marburg virus, and Lassa fever. This money will also speed the development of dengue fever and vibrio cholera vaccines. Scientists are also excited about the possibilities stemming from the military's bigger budgets.

So, for those who would deny to their grave the reality that part of the reason for the inclusion of the deadly toxin thiomersal aka mercury, as a 'preservative' and other adjuvants in the vaccines is in fact an intentional eugenicist soft-kill program, they should at least be honest enough to admit to themselves that it's about 'money' and selling shiit that don't work, and these corporatist contracts with govt are simply the BigPharma's way of making a portion of a biz that EVERYONE who knows anything about their industry do not deny that they're "notoriously unprofitable" (no profit in cure: products that 'treat' to continually maintain a perpetual state of sickness, but not enough to die, is their bread and butter biz model; for those that aren't even bright enough to figure that out? stick to talking about NFL) and evading financial liability.

Otherwise, even setting aside the reality that all medicine affect each individual differently (so it's hard to ensure 100% effectiveness), that said, still, IF the BigPharma and the Vaccine Industrial Complex were so certain as to the efficacy of their products, like any other company who manufacture goods that they truly believe in, they'd offer a lifetime warranty, let alone, a warranty of ANY kind. But of course. They don't. And, they can't.

LOL.

So the question for those who consider themselves to be an honest skeptic (which would actually mean examining history, facts, and evidence, and not keep saying "no" for the mere sake of saying no), is: if intentionally packaging an unprofitable product that has been known to harm and often kill, yet even knowing this, intentionally decide to lobby CONgress for corporatist govt contracts, worse: to indemnify themselves of any medical to lethal liabilities for those dispensed via govt subsidized programs, all the while making sure that the govt buys those very same unprofitable and dangerous products on the taxpayers' dime/subsidy, what ELSE would you call that but an intentional evil plan?

What, bills and corporatist contracts just get handed out, without an army of lawyers and series of meetings, conferences, whitepapers and 'policy lunches'??




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Good summary

Essentially a lot of things I often talk about and thakfully no religious junk. My only fear regarding this that many will hang up on early gentics point (one of the most misjudged topics among so-called liberty-lovers) and won't make it to the very end. Of course for some none of this is new, yet some of the links prove useful in a way so thanks for that.

Only as high as i reach can i grow
Only as far as i seek can i go
Only as deep as i look can i see
Only as much as i dream can i be

thanks, precisely. I agree with all those points.

but I swear, it all started with me thinking it was gonna be a three paragraph deal...like how I 'think' all my threads would go, until, I keep thinking I need to source it more, and append more analyses, then before you know it, it's friggin' mini novella.

lol.

glad the links were useful, and you actually made it to the end .D

gracias!

P.S. funny you'd say that:

My only fear regarding this that many will hang up on early gentics point (one of the most misjudged topics among so-called liberty-lovers) and won't make it to the very end

because that's precisely what happened, before the thread's comment section was shut down (probably appropriately so, as the tenor was getting nasty from one sad troll): apparently there exists such specimen, which I thought not to be possible, one who completely couldn't comprehend the nuances of the pt. being made; turned into a vacuous AIPAC-weekend seminar talking pts. pitter-patter, even though the direct URL link to an actual study (in .PDF) that is directly challenging the establishment status quo of the 'Rhine Valley' hypothesis is what was being cited.

C'est la vie, I suppose. Just sad & pitiful finding the SPLC cheering section here at DP especially from someone who's been here pretty long; no use in trying to tell a flat-earther the fecklessness of trying to paddle his canoe to the moon: kinda have to 'out-paddle' gravity thing-y first. xD

Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

Intellectual dishonesty is

Intellectual dishonesty is the worst plague, invented by humanity itself.

seriously, it's precisely because of these govt terrorist

'scientists' who completely skew reality, where science has become almost nothing more than 90%-govt grant whoredom, everything is political and/or 'national security'-state related.

it's like the world has no idea that they're basically living through parallel histories where one segment of population is aware of actual history, and the other literally don't know where they come from, or the fact that those whom they have been viciously treating are literally their blood brothers and sisters.

I truly, truly hope that that corner of the world learns to figure out reality, so we can all friggin' move on from this genetic superiority eugenicist nonsense.

think 2000+ yr feud is resolvable in our lifetime. LOL. guess if we live forever, maybe. but, hey, who knows. stranger things have happened: I still have hope (however floaty-good that maybe) in the inherent goodness of humanity.

Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

this info needs to be shared

For the sake of mankind.

"If this mischievous financial policy [greenbacks], which has its origin in North America, should become endurated down to a fixture, then that government will furnish its own money without cost. It will pay off its debts and be without debts. It will hav

yup: if for no other reason than the fact

that genetics prove that humans are much more alike, than not, even between currently warring 'enemies' who are literally blood brothers and sisters.

tragedy of all tragedies...

but, hopefully some day...

Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

updated

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Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

Can you please summarize your

Can you please summarize your take on this controversy? I am not clear about the point of this.

Well, guess it's not a simple topic; reading them in sections,

or reading it while ignoring the quoted portions of each article linked, does visually 'shrink' the content, somewhat.

But, to summarize, it's about:

1. Hypocrisy of the corporatist US govt terrorist hacks/whores for the Mil.Ind.Complex feigning 'indignant moral outrage' about how 'no one should tolerate the use of NBC's (Nuclear, Biological, Chemical weapons),' yet 'we' are the no.1 manufacturer, stockpiler, and USERS of it, vs. actual civilian population, from napalm, white phosphorous and DU (Depleted Uranium) ordinance. If you click on the title heading, you'll be redirected to images.google.com pictures of the effects of those weapons

2. Hypocrisy of the AIPAC/ADL/Likudnik/NeoCon/RINO chickenschit war-WHORES who love to predictably smear those who want a peaceful world as "anti-semites" when especially the target of their oppression, ARE in fact "Semites" themselves, by the virtue of their own shared genetic markers with their own blood-kin brethren: the Palestinians.

3. The origins of where gene/race-specific eugenicist bioweapons programs originated, in recent years: Israel and South Africa. And how during those attempts, they actually ironically found out how genetically close, the Palestinians were/are to the modern Jews, and how close blacks are to whites in South Africa, LONG BEFORE last year's finding, and before Dipshiit Cheney and co recommended using those very weapons in their now infamous PNAC paper "Rebuilding America's Defenses."

4. The fact that ALL of these issues have been public, adding to my personal bemusement of all those utterly ignorant and lazy who've never even bothered to look into these areas, who then proceed to dismiss it as "conspiracy theories" promoted by racists, anti-semites, blipety blah the fcuk blah.

It's the perpetual question on my mind: WHY THE FCUK are idiot morons, always the loudest and proud, of their own self-evident ignorance? Sure, you can say it's merely a common manifestation of compensation for their own deeply rooted insecurities of various stripes. But I don't know, guess I'm hoping there's something other than mere willful ignorance and delusion. C'est la vie. LOL.

As for the rest of the verbiage?

I go over the contentious intra-Isaeli, Jew-on-Jew geneticist debate over their own origins; recent scientifically peer-reviewed work that PROVES that at least, part of the theory that has long been dismissed as "conspiracy theory promoted by Holocaust deniers and 'anti-semites'": the Khazari origins of MODERN "Jews," has now been proven BY a JEWISH geneticist.

And of course, the AIPAC warWHOREs predictably went all ape-shiit.

Then I posted interviews, articles and counter arguments cited in MSM articles and science mags and blogs.

- Summary Concluded - .D

Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

updated

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Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul