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Boycott Apple Over Fingerprint Scanner?

After everything that has come out about the NSA and government spying, Apple thinks now is the time to roll out this technology? Are the masses really that stupid, or is Apple just that stupid? I guess we will see. Personally I will never buy an iphone now, and I love Apple products. Even if the fingerprint scanner is turned off, the technology is still in the phone and I have a sneaking suspicion the NSA will have some backdoor access to it.

Anyone else peeved over this?

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God, the hypocrisy

Microsoft has been exposed spying a lot more than Apple. Microsoft was quicker to give up their user information at the government's request too. You may be right about Apple, but the idea that you got away from it by switching to a Microsoft phone is absolutely laughable.

I never said that, so....

I said I abandoned iPhones because of their non-innovation in their iPhone products. I NEVER said MS is a saint by comparison. Hello, I think I'm aware MS is Bill "Vaccines are Awesome" Gates' company.

All Smartphone and OS makers are corrupted by government contract$. Microsoft, Apple, Google, etc.

"We are not human beings having a spiritual experience; we are spiritual beings having a human experience"—Pierre Teilhard de Chardin

Are you kidding? Your entire

Are you kidding? Your entire premise was that you switched to Windows Phone because Apple was too evil. LOL!

In case you're having difficulty reading my comment:

Here are my words (again) in BOLD for you:

"I switched to a Windows Phone (Androids can lick balls) a couple years ago as I refuse to buy into the "annualized product releases" that Apple has adopted to sucker people into yearly hardware updates and non-innovative software and UI design."

I then move on to other topics which ARE NOT part of the reason above because I was already switched over before the features I mention. I assumed a paragraph break would be sufficient enough but I hope this clarifies my reason for you.

All I prefer about Windows OS is its User Interface. Period. It's no less "Evil" than any other platform in my opinion.

"We are not human beings having a spiritual experience; we are spiritual beings having a human experience"—Pierre Teilhard de Chardin

I had to give my finger print

I had to give my finger print when I got my driver's license in CO. I didnt want to but I needed to drive...

We all share this eternally evolving present moment- The past and future only exist as inconsequential mental fabrications.

Oh no, you're supposed to

Oh no, you're supposed to give up driving too according to the anti-tech idiots on this site.

Disney World

has been taking finger prints for entrance for at least 10 years now. I only have a problem with it if government gets their filthy hands on it, which I'm sure they are without us knowing about it.

If it offers them some sort

If it offers them some sort of control, i think its a safe bet to say that they WANT their hands in the cookie jar.......whether its there or not, is for the likes of snowden's to let us know

or the third option, people get fed up that we keep needing snowden's to tell us these things

not forgetting the fact, that, there ARE, these THINGS, that we need snowden's to begin with

My old computer had a finger

My old computer had a finger scanner was so easy to do aside from typing in the password.
No I am not worried about them having my finger prints because I had to give them that when I had to get a security clearance for my last job.

To climb the mountain, you must believe you can.


our finger prints are everywhere, glasses and silverware at restaraunts, every time we touch a door, and many other things in public.

hate to say it but...

"Are the masses really that stupid"

Over the past weeks, many people at work have already pre-ordered. They can not wait until they arrive.

I brought the 'surveillance' issue up with a couple of people, they just stared at me like I was on something.

Maybe I am really that stupid.

"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul

Sounds like both you and them were uninformed

You're right to be suspicious and they are wrong to be completely unconcerned. But the problem is just jumping to conclusions without doing research. You'll find the fingerprint scanner can't be used by government, it never even goes to Apple so they can't even be forced to give it to the NSA for example.

I really wish people wouldn't be so quick to judge, when it's apparent to me that Apple has gone OUT of their way to create a situation where there is absolutely no way the government can access that information without physical access to your phone.

"Jumping to conclusions"

I never stated that fingerprints from that device were sent to government/nsa. I did state that the capability was potentially there, and that in light of nsa, Snowden, news reporters, cameras everywhere, etc., this nation has already walked a very fine line teetering on the side of tyranny.

To reiterate:

"I brought the 'surveillance' issue up with a couple of people"

I really wish people wouldn't be so quick to judge ;-)

"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul

Yeah, I feel like the liberty

Yeah, I feel like the liberty movement has come so far yet technology still has us by the balls. Its the bread and circuses of our time.

Being pro-liberty does not

Being pro-liberty does not mean being anti-technology. The reactionary, fearful ignorance behind this thread is appalling.

I didn't say I was

I didn't say I was anti-technology. I said it has the general public by the balls. Does the average Joe keep up to date on security technology, encryption algorithms, etc.? No. But who does? The NSA, Google, Apple, Microsoft, Verizon....and if we've learned anything in the last 6 months its that they all work together for someone else's nefarious agenda, not the benefit of mankind. So again, they got us by the balls.

I work for

a large technology company that services the public, and I am really glad that something like this fingerprint verification exists now. Do you know how much of my day is spent trying to explain that there is a possible difference between and email password,and another type of account password? This will save alot of people alot of time and grief in the long run. Not to mention that no picture of a fingerprint is stored, just a string of data that is hashed and stored in the processor that apparently cannot be reassembled or replicated. I applaud apple for what they are trying to do with account security and usability. Of course all the time maintaining a healthy level of skepticism and researching each feature thoroughly before jumping to conclusions.

Technology has helped the

Technology has helped the liberty movement much more than anything else. Governments always catch up with technology and use it to grow itself. I do agree that in the modern world, government has grown military and surveillance technology faster than the private sector.

Fingerprint scanner is not all bad by itself, but combined with PRISM it would be a disaster. Especially fingerprint scanner combined with a payment system could be the dream of globalists for total financial control.

Makes me wonder about the

Makes me wonder about the technology itself. All the major phone manufacturers have been developing finger print technology for years, but couldn't successfully integrate it. How did Apple figure it out, or did they? And it will be interesting to see if Samsung rolls it out in the near future. This is definitely the paranoid skeptic in me talking, but I have to wonder.