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How Do 90 Million Unemployed Americans of Working Age with No Paycheck Comply with Obamacare Mandate?

Record 90.5 Million Out Of Labor Force As Half A Million Drop Out In One Month; Labor Force Participation Rate Plunges To 1978 Levels

"While the Establishment survey data was ugly due to both the miss and the prior downward revisions in the NFP print, the real action was in the Household survey, where we find that the number of people not in the labor force rose by a whopping 516,000 in one month, which in turn increased the total number of people outside the labor force to a record 90.5 million Americans."

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-09-06/record-905-million-...



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All Congress does is create business for the FED.

Those who can't pay, go on the government dole.

Congress will borrow Money. Taxes only pay interest on debt. Nothing has been paid on the National debt since 1893 (120 years).

All competitors the Federal Reserve members will be crushed and taxed into the poorhouse by Congress.

Healthcare is an excuse to direct business to the FED.

Taxpayer have been paying interest on 1/3 of the Civil War debt for 120 years.

Bankers love ignorant customers, Congress fits the bill.

Free includes debt-free!

henry9's picture

just as worried about the potential growth of underemployment.

If I understand it correctly; a small business with fewer than 50 employees can avoid contributing to health care plans if it scheduled hours to workers to fewer than 30 a week. Any business owner with integrity would want to keep valued staff.There are others though who will use any measures it can to survive this debacle.

My question is -(because I really don't know); If an employee is scheduled for 29 hours, but is offered to work 40 on occasion or multiple occasions, is that a loophole or a violation?

Use this subsidy calculator,

Use this subsidy calculator, if a person age 30 is earning $20,000 per year, with the subsidy they will spend $1021, or pay a fine of $200 if they choose not to have health care. As if a person making this income can afford an additional bill of $1000 per year on top of Food, Shelter, Clothing, it is my opinion that this person will go uninsured. My personal opinion is the Dems rammed this bill through with the single payer in mind, Obamacare will fail, and the Insurance Industry will no longer be able to sustain business without making profit, that we will all have Medicaid for all.

http://kff.org/interactive/subsidy-calculator/

Didn't the republicans

introduce the idea of single payer years ago to counter Hillary care.

For better or worse....

...they choose the Medicaid plan on the exchange for their state (if they qualify).

Don't vote me down. I'm not saying it's good. I'm just answering your question.

I was planning on going to

I was planning on going to debtor's prison.

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And what about my wife and myself --

I am not truly "working poor", but I am working, and the cost of an ObamaCare policy with my medical conditions would easily exceed my yearly income.

I guess I'll just have to go to jail.

Perhaps I should just turn

Perhaps I should just turn myself into law enforcement on day one because I'm unemployed and can't comply. I wonder what the procedure is for that.

If you comply, you are a collaborator.

If you don't draw the line here, you never ever will.

If you go hat in hand through one of these "exchanges", stop pretending you are a part of any liberty movement.

fireant's picture

How to resist...

Justice Roberts re-wrote the statute declaring the penalty a tax instead of a fine. This is unconstitutional on two levels. The court has no authority to write law, and we are left with taxation without representation. Simple.
Refuse to participate based on the above, and as soon as they fine you or take any other action, you have legal standing.
Ps: Congress should have, and still should, impeach Roberts for usurpation of the legislature. All this talk of de-funding is a side show.
Pps: Roll Tide!

Undo what Wilson did

Huh?

Have you thought this statement out thoroughly?

"Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of liberty" TJ

I WILL NOT COMPLY!!

I WILL NOT COMPLY!!

Ron Paul 2016

I wonder how they will force people living under bridges...

...to pay a penny for health care.

Are they going to put one IRS agent on every American and follow them around to make sure they have health care?

What a farce.

Just like the federal income tax, the only ones who will be forced into paying will be the LEGALLY working people.

Criminals, illegals etc never pay an income tax.

It will be the same with the health care thing.

What a joke.

"We have allowed our nation to be over-taxed, over-regulated, and overrun by bureaucrats. The founders would be ashamed of us for what we are putting up with."
-Ron Paul

I wonder how they will enforce it.

If they plan to forcibly take the money from any meager refund I might receive then I will file as long as I still get money back. Otherwise I won't file and I won't pay the fine.

Paying the Fines

Is cheaper than paying for the crappy coverage.

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At least untill 2016.

tasmlab's picture

People who can't afford are subsidized

Part of the program. The govt pays for the private insurance. It's facsitastic!

Currently consuming: Morehouse's "Better off free", FDR; Wii U; NEP Football

Congress borrows the money hands it out, taxes pay interest.

Borrowing year after year since 1893.

Free includes debt-free!

this issue needs national rallies behind it right about NOW.

This issue needs national rallies behind it right about NOW. WE THE PEOPLE

kind people rock

Unemployment will go up when

Unemployment will go up when the mandate kicks in, creating a larger pool of criminals.

Southern Agrarian

Of Course They Comply

By signing up for the benefits that all of us working stiffs are providing. They're part of Obammer's Free Sh*t Army.

From each according to his ability, to each according to his need. What did you think, that everybody was paying his own way in this stupid scheme? Please.....

ecorob's picture

Your numbers are wrong.

Our gubbermint says that only 7.3% of Americans are unemployed. Thats less than 20 million!

Someone is lying. I wonder who?

its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
Rockin' the FREE world in Tennessee since 1957!
9/11 Truth.

90 million now criminalized

It's how you instill fear in mass
for compliance
to everything 'else' that's coming.
It's the new 'drug war'.. another victimless crime X 90 million.
90 million citizens become the equivalent of 'teenage blacks'..
ez to arrest
ez to convict.

Short answer...

They don't/shouldn't.

A good set of arms will be cheaper than Obamacare premiums.

It's time Americans give no quarter to those who are tools for the destruction of our once great country.

Our forefathers killed a few redcoats in their day.

Will we ever have the fortitude to kill a few jack-booted thugs in our day?

Time will tell.

"I am for peace: but when I speak, they are for war." Psalm 120:7

Freedom is the ability to do what you want to do.
Liberty is the ability to do what you ought to do.
"Where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty." 2 Corinthians 3:17

No

Not gonna happen. My Country has died.

Nobody over 30 will have a job in America, Logan 5

Wait until Rand Paul, Canadian Cruz, and the RepublicRATS change the income tax into a national sales tax, as foreigner-owned Fox News, Glenn Beck, and Federal Reserve lackey Herman Cain are calling for. Now that Americans are permanently unemployed, and their jobs have been successfully shipped to Red China by the multinational corporations, there is no income, so Rothschild has no further need for the income tax. In order to take what's left of Americans' family inheritances and nest eggs, it's time to sock it to them with a national sales tax. All those suckers whom Rothschild's mouthpieces conned to convert their traditional IRAs to "tax free" Roth IRAs will now have to pay national sales tax on the money they withdraw. Brilliant move in the destruction of America.

ecorob's picture

When will the people see through...

all of these strategies designed to further erode what is left of our country?

I am for stopping this NOW!

its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
Rockin' the FREE world in Tennessee since 1957!
9/11 Truth.

If coverage will cost more

If coverage will cost more than 8% of your income, you can get an exemption from the mandate.

Link

Could we have a link please?

If I disappear from a discussion please forgive me. My 24-7 business requires me to split mid-sentence to serve them. I am not ducking out, I will be back later to catch up.