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Lindsey Graham, John McCain on the 'Extreme Fringes of American Society,' says Justin Amash

Rep. Justin Amash, R-Mich., told a crowd of libertarians Thursday that Sens. John McCain, R-Ariz., and Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., "are on the extreme fringes of American society in terms of their views on war.”

Speaking at the Liberty Political Action Conference, Amash was responding to a question about Graham's request to seek military action against Iran as well as Syria.

“I’ve had a lot of town halls in my district — there is basically nobody who thinks like they do,” Amash said. “So, you know, it’s a very small percentage of the population and I think you can basically dismiss what they’re doing.”


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Republicans shifting center right

The bottom line is that the Republican Party has been fractured since the Bush administration. Blame Obama all you want for the last few years of turmoil, but truly, no one f'd up this nation more than Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, and their handful of cronies and appointed federal judges for 8 years. It is almost a surprise these neocons did not try to suspend the 2008 election due to some "state of emergency" nonsense.

Now, those who have come to their senses, and may disagree with neocons and neoliberals on the pre-emptive war doctrine (Bush doctrine), are attempting to be painted as the fringe, when something like 90%+ of the population in every state agrees with them. No one wants another war, at all. How many friggin wars are we going to have in our lifetimes?

Now, with that being said, there is a clear chance for true liberals and true conservatives to form a coalition to overtake the leadership in both chambers. I do not see it happening in the Senate, but it is still a remote possibility if they are willing to kick out Boehner in the House. I don't care what your position is on the Affordable Healthcare Act (Obamacare), but when you put it up to vote around 40 times, knowing it will fail in the Senate or be vetoed by the president, you are wasting the entire nation's time and money playing games. And, truth be told, this has been going on since before Obama's re-election.

Now, granted Obama is no saint, but unless the Republican Party wants to suffer defeat after defeat against the Democrats all around the country for the next several decades, they seriously need to change the platform right away. Cutting huge chunks out of domestic spending, when all other civilized nations of the world are providing at least some safety net for their citizens, is seen as barbaric by all other countries outside of the United States. The budgetary proposals are crazy, with massive increases in military expenditures, and crazy bills to cut $60 billion dollars out of food stamps when nearly 10% of the population is unemployed.

There is no way in hell they will win any mid-terms with this philosophy. People vote in their self interest time and again, and rarely in the interest of the nation. Time to wise up and follow the lead of the liberty movement in the House or these people will find themselves out of a job soon enough. People are at the breaking point.

Glad he agrees with me...

these guys, in particular McCain, are deranged.

Deranged is one of the best adjectives yet

I have seen for these two.

"Hence, naturally enough, my symbol for Hell is something like the bureaucracy of a police state or the office of a thoroughly nasty business concern." ~~C.S. Lewis
Love won! Deliverance from Tyranny is on the way! Col. 2:13-15

Two other strong statements

worth repeating: James Clapper should be charged and removed; You can't have a free society with secret laws.

Whatever happened to the Recall McInsane


"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere".

It's hard not to be a menace to society when half the population is happy on their knees. - unknown

Big Bump!

I love to hear Rep. Amash talk, and I'm sooooo glad he talks a lot!

LOL...who's the Wacko Bird now??

Big Liberty Bump. :-D


Authoritarian or libertarian. Drudge said it best. But labeling these bootlickers as extremists is well played. Kudos Amash, you are on fire...

Reverse psychology on them -

Reverse psychology on them - lets use their own words to label them! I always wondered what a good marketing campaign could do for our cause - pretty basic stuff they use against us. I believe Bush got elected for his "a gentler-kinder nation" speech.

I wouldnt support this as a

I wouldnt support this as a form of behaviour, but i would definatly support it in the act of shining light on the fact that THEY, DO, and already HAVE, used this tactic.....to then use it on them, have THEM critisize the tactic, and then barrage them with the evidence of THEM doing the very thing they JUST condemned, and in doing so, showing the world "the illusion" .....one bit at a time, "chipping away"

pardon the extreme analogy
Falling on your sword VOLUNTARILLY for the greater good

participating in that behaviour (bad), in order to show the world what they are like(good)


A new party must be born. The War Mongers Party. Graham and McCain can be the 1st to join.
Hillary, Pelosi, Boehner, Kerry, Reid, anyone else come to mind?

It's time! Rand Paul 2016!

"Truth, Justice, and the American Way!"

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Bush, Cheney, Rummy...

Rice, HW, Rove, Romney, Krystal, MSM...

"Government is the entertainment division of the military-industrial complex". - Frank Zappa

I approach it differently...

Rather than start from the beginning we work on our already established network of Ron Paul delegates to determine platform and candidates for the Republican party.

I sure do hope so

A year ago I would've thought their views were normal for your average "conservative."

I hope things are really changing and it's not just because there's a Democrat in the White House...

Ron Paul convert from the Heart of Dixie

What's changing is that the

What's changing is that the Internet broke the corporate (lamestream) media's stranglehold on people's perceptions - especially those of the congresscritters.

The media's power came mainly from creating an illusion of popular will in order to steer the politicians into making the decisions they wanted them to make.

To a lesser extent it hamstrung the people by denying them social reinforcemet, projecting the illusion that they were out-of-step with the other members of their communities, leading them to be silent in order to avoid a perceived threat of ostracism, rather than pursuing their own interests with other like-minded people.

Add to that various forms of gaslighting: Misreporting facts, biased reporting that distorts perceptions of risk (such as reporting crimes with guns and not defense with guns), and the like.

Now people can see that there are millions of others with similar opinions (such as opposition to war or government programs). So they're speaking out and pushing their representatives. (Thus the shocking surprises and mob scenes in the politicans' town-hall meetings.)

Perhaps more importantly, politicians are also seeing the truth behind the curtain, rather than relying on the media's reporting, polls, lobbyists, and the occasional constituent contacts (which can be dismissed as outliers rather than typical voters).

Conglomerates mixing media empires with military equipment manufacturers (such as Westinghouse/CBS or GE/NBC/Comcast) or powerful politicians owning media empires (Romney/Bain Capital/ClearChannel) are losing their ability to run the show by feeding fiction to the decision makers - governmental or voter.

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"Obama’s Economists: ‘Stimulus’ Has Cost $278,000 per Job."

That means: For each job "created or saved" about five were destroyed.

Nobody liked Romney,

Nobody liked Romney, but they voted for him anyway and then blamed us for losing. In my county during the caucuses, it was split between Ron Paul and Santorum. I don't think anyone voted for Romney. Then at the state convention, they played a video of Santorum telling his supporters to vote for Romney, so they did. Zombies.

I'm pretty convinced that it's at least half because it's Obama and not Romney, and that Romney would be doing the same things with a chorus of neo-con cheers behind him.

It's such poetic justice that the Dems are constantly having to try to uncross their eyes over their own hypocrisy. And anti-war Republicans? That has to be so weird for them. I bet they still think we need to bomb Iran.