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Friday Gun News! Gallup: Mental Health more @Fault, NOT Guns! CNN's Don Lemon kinda Wakes Up citing CDC Report vs Hoplophobes!

Poll: Americans Now Blame Mental Health System for Mass Shootings, Not Guns
Americans no longer fault “easy access” to guns as number one reason for gun violence

Julie Wilson
September 20, 2013

Americans are finally waking up to the fact that gun control does not curb gun violence. A recent Gallup poll conducted on Sept.17 and 18, just days after the shooting at the DC Navy Yard, reveals Americans think “easy access” to guns has less to do with mass shootings than they did in 2011.

The new poll, as reported in the Washington Times, shows 48 percent of Americans now blame failures in the mental health system for gun violence.

After the 2011 shooting in Tucson, Ariz., in which six were killed and several wounded including then Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, a poll was conducted to measure the public’s response. 46 percent blamed “easy access” to guns as the root cause, compared with just 40 percent today.

It looks like Americans may finally be basing their opinions on gun violence around real statistics. In May, the LA Times released an article exposing statistics that show gun crime has plunged dramatically since the early 1990s. The statistics, released by the Pew Research Center, show “in less than two decades gun murder rates [have] been cut nearly in half.”

Americans Fault Mental Health System Most for Gun Violence
Half say gun laws should be stricter, down from 58% after Newtown

by Lydia Saad
September 20, 2013

PRINCETON, NJ -- Forty-eight percent of Americans blame the mental health system "a great deal" for mass shootings in the United States, unchanged from January 2011. At the same time, fewer blame easy access to guns now (40%) than two years ago (46%), making the mental health system the perceived top cause of mass shootings.

How Much Various Factors Are to Blame for Mass Shootings in the United States, 2011 and 2013 results

Gallup conducted the new poll Sept. 17-18, the two days immediately after a shooting at the Washington Navy Yard in Washington, D.C., in which, apparently, a lone gunman -- a government contractor and former Navy reservist -- went on a rampage, killing 12. Much of the news coverage has focused on the shooter's questionable mental state in the days, weeks, and even years leading up to Monday's events.


The long time 'cost-plus' manufacturer/supplier of the $200 'Crane'-SOPMOD Stock (though shocking how much they overcharge the US Govt AND everyday gunowners, vs. Bravo Company's knock off of it, the B5 'Enhanced SOPMOD Stock'), monolithic AR upper, modular-barrel/piston & DI/ high end AR's, and the official supplier of AR10 DMR variant to the UK Military and the New Zealand Military, Lewis Machine & Tool Company (LMT) finally bails out of the ever anti-Gun Illinois, for more lead-ier pastures:

BREAKING: Lewis Machine and Tool Bails on Illinois

By Dan Zimmerman on September 20, 2013


By John Boch

Les Baer left the Illinois side of the river and settled in Iowa about five years ago. Today, gun maker Lewis Machine and Tool announced its departure from Illinois, taking 170 good-paying jobs with them. In fact the owner, Karl Lewis, said he was very eager to make the move. How soon? “The sooner the better.” Ouch . . .

Their destination: Davenport, Iowa. “Why?” you ask. Gee, could it be Illinois’ less than gun-friendly legislature, constantly working against gun owners’ interests?

We say congratulations to LMT. Why pay taxes to a state government that hates you?

DAVENPORT (Quad Cities Online) — A longtime Milan-based gun manufacturer announced plans Thursday to move his 170-employee operation to Davenport.

During a city enterprise zone commission meeting, Karl Lewis, owner of Lewis Machine and Tool Co., said he plans to build a 60,000-square-foot building on Kimmel Drive. The board unanimously approved Mr. Lewis’ plans.

If those plans come to fruition, Lewis Machine and Tool will be the second gun manufacturer to move across the river in the past five years. In 2008, Les Baer Customs moved its operations and two dozen workers to a new 18,000-square-foot building.

“I would hope, if everything lines up as it should, that sometime in 2014 we’ll make the formal move,” Mr. Lewis said. “The sooner, the better.”


INFOGRAPHIC: The Real Deal on Economic Impact wielded by American hunters

Question of the Day: Now Will The Fudds Get On Board?

By Dan Zimmerman
September 20, 2013

The NSSF is out this morning with one of their patented infographics, this one depicting how big a bidness hunting and related activities are in the US (full version after the jump). While thirty-eight billion may be pocket change to Mike Bloomberg, that’s still a lot of samolians. But in addition to their economic contributions, some hunters – more derisively referred to by a few around here as “Fudds” – have also been known at times for their linguini-spined support for some of their fellow firearms owners’ gun rights. More than a few have taken the Zumbo-esque approach of throwing “terrorist rifles” (ARs and AKs) under the gun grabbers’ bus, apparently based on the calculus that if they just give them the scary black semi-autos, their bolt actions and scatter guns will be left alone. To which we’d respond with one word: incrementalism . . .


And, of course, it took oBUSHma's CDC to get through some brainwashed oBUSHmaBots' thick skulls to the reality that ALL informed gun owners and natural rights of self-defense advocates have always known: MSM & Govt always hype the inane out of proportion for their agenda. Duh? But of course, unfortunately, they're still asking for more gun control; what else is new? Sure, you just found out that you've been wrong all along, so...yay! Let's still call for more 'laws' that no armed assailant, by definition, will ever follow.

Obama's 2013 CDC Report: Priorities for Research to Reduce the Threat of Firearm-Related Violence

REALITY CHECK: Let’s Talk About Guns

Sep 19, 2013
By Don Lemon


Let’s talk about guns.

Well, first let’s remove the politics and truthfully talk about gun laws, about gun violence. After the Newtown shooting President Obama commissioned the Center for Disease Control to research gun violence and offer solutions. And the study was completed this summer and it just might make you rethink your stance, your view, on the issue. It did for me. It’s making me rethink it. I’m going to cite the CDC study and I’m going to cite an article from Slate magazine, which find that no surprise we, the United States of America, have the worst gun related homicide problem of any industrialized country in the world. Almost 20% higher than the homicide rates of any other “high income country in the world.”

However, that same study – are you listening? – it shows that mass shootings are not the problem. They account for a very small fraction of firearm related deaths. Here are the numbers. Since 1983 there have been close to 80 shootings where four or more people were killed by a single perpetrator in one day in the U.S. Eighty shootings, four or more people killed. That’s about 560 victims, people who have been killed, since 1983. Thirty years.

You know how many people died from non-mass shooting events, four or more people, between 2000 and 2010? That’s ten years alone. Three hundred and thirty-five thousand people. Three hundred and thirty-five thousand. And the vast majority of those victims did not die from those so called military style assault weapons that people rally against so much. Instead they died from handguns. Handguns are used in more than 87% of all violent crimes. And in fact handguns accounted for the most, most of the murders, the manslaughters, the incidents in this country.

CNN’s Don Lemon: By Not Owning a Gun, ‘Are We Setting Ourselves Up to Be Sitting Ducks?’

by Andrew Kirell | 11:10 am, September 19th, 2013 Audio

Speaking with radio host Tom Joyner this morning on BlackAmericaWeb.com, CNN anchor Don Lemon admitted that a recent study about mass shootings in America has made him rethink his positions on gun control.

“Let’s remove the politics and truthfully talk about gun laws, about gun violence,” Lemon began. Citing a recently-completed Centers for Disease Control study on gun violence, the CNN anchor asserted, “Mass shootings are not the problem. They account for a very small fraction of firearm related deaths.”

According to the study, since 1983 there have been nearly 80 single-perpetrator shootings with four or more deaths. “That’s about 560 victims, people who have been killed, since 1983. Thirty years,” Lemon said.

Quote of the Day: CNN’s Don Lemon Makes a Bad Landing at the Right Airport

By Robert Farago on September 20, 2013

“If our lawmakers, including the President, won’t step up and make significant changes in gun laws, in gun registration, background checks, mental health, if gun purchases continue to grow and flood the streets, it makes me wonder that by some of us not owning a gun, or at least embracing the idea of one, are we setting ourselves up to be victims in a movie theater, a school, a public building, most of all in our streets, in our own neighborhoods, and in our own homes. And armed with just our cellphones, our fists and our wits, are we setting ourselves up to be sitting ducks, defenseless in the face of a sane, or an insane person, armed to the teeth and bent on killing.” – Don Lemon, REALITY CHECK: Let’s Talk About Guns [via blackamericaweb.com] [h/t Dirk Diggler]

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Great Post AnCap

A lot of good info there.


thank you.)

Predictions in due Time...

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul



Predictions in due Time...

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

Sorry - can't tweet this. Title too long.

Maybe you should 'post' with a short title then 'edit' it later, changing to a longer title.


Original post: 'Drug Critics Should Chill'


Spokesman For Dope Fiends International Advocacy Group - 'Whoa, Dude, Like, You Know, Chill Brah'

Add up all the letters and you are within the limit for Twitter, all without any loss of meaning.

Pandacentricism will be our downfall.

Is it really? Well, then TL; DR it is! LOL. Well, Chris C.,

or Pol-pot, again: not sure if you're being really serious or not; from what I can tell, though not always, often I too share and employ your particular 'brand' of off-kilter, awkward timing sense of humor.

But, seeing as how I know they're contextually-specific tones that rarely translate well in a forum comment reply-box, so as matter of literary heuristic, I try avoid using prolonged sarcasms, especially before an unamenable audience.

But assuming you are serious, this time, ask yourself this: if I didn't care to change it the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th time, what makes you think 5th time's gonna be the charm?

Frankly the time you took to write the above reply, you could've easily shortened the title, yourself, and shortened the URL yourself, even further using tinyURL, yourself.


So excuse me if I seem less than acquiescent to your 'demands'/light suggestion: don't know when you'll begin to see that NO, means no.

Taken. Sorry brah.


No. Not really, taken, yet. What you're not even gonna buy me a beer, before trying to change the way I speak?

Sheesh, some poor social negotiator you must be xD

So, IF you were indeed serious: Chris, again, while I appreciate the fact (if so) that you want to share a few of my threads, but can't say I like the idea of succumbing to your demands, and being told about it repeatedly to do something (oddly reminds me of all the oBUSHmaBot entitlement kids), when for the 4 or 5th reply, it should be obvious by now.

Now, even though as I've expressed in the past that I do dig your sense of humor, but you know how when you have to repeat the punchline, repeatedly, worse, explain the non-hardy har har punchline, repeatedly?

Yup. Same here.

TinyURL.com? It's a wonderful, free tool; please, do consider making the most of it: besides you can edit down my ALWAYS verbose titles using the alchemical power of your Onion editorial cap, to your heart's content.

I frankly would rather see your shortened versions, on Twitter, anyways...even though, I don't use Twitter.

Long story short: No. ,0)

Predictions in due Time...

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

The problem is that we live in a lazy society.

You need to make it easier for people to tweet your stuff. You can not depend on them to figure out how to shorten a title themselves.

It's really no big deal - just start with a short title - example '.', then lengthen it later. It now fits twitter's requirements. That's it - problem solved.

YeaH i'M BEing real - sarcasm off as it were.

Pandacentricism will be our downfall.



Predictions in due Time...

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul