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I suggested that my daughter read Animal Farm. A few days later I found this on my desk.

We homeschool and occasionally my kids get bored and ask me for something to do. Many times this leads to me listing through classic books to see if they have read them yet. They are voracious readers and I can usually suggest a book that catches their attention. Recently, I suggested that my 14 year old daughter read Animal Farm by George Orwell. I told her that it was a parable about the way that some governments rise to power and how that power can be abused. I didn't think much about it until a few days later when I found this document stapled together on my desk.

This here is a proud dad.

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The future looks bright

I admit that my general perception of "teens" is that they have no clue what's going on in the world due to lack of education, lack of parenting, and societal pressures from other uneducated and unparented children.

I have been guilty of painting young people with too broad a brush.

Mr. beauxcphus, thanks for posting. Every day I meet or see a new kid, teen or otherwise, that blows my mind with what they know. That 12-year old girl fighting Monsanto and GMOs comes to mind.

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Must have put a smile on your face

Good work to the mom and dad on their homeschooling


A problem homeschooled kids face, with having sensitive informed parents, is the difficultly many adults have accepting the fact....a kid is smarter than they are. So being attacked by adults is not so unusual. Goes with the territory. Einstein played the violin, terribly (her penmanship is not terrible) and he knew it. He did not care, because he enjoyed it, and did not base his self esteem upon that one simple fact. Clearly, those who have unkind things to say about her brilliance, over penmanship....really feel shitty that they could not have said it better. I homeschooled my daughter for many years, and although I do not like paragraphs.....I succeeded in helping her to feel well loved. This letter shared, is from a parent who cares about every aspect of his child's life. So, "Kardashian/Football TV and GMO Popcorn Lovers," go pick on someone your own size, and stop pretending you care.

Morgaine D'Clegg

Teaching your kids is ok.

But I'm not sure about homeschooling.
Wouldn't be better if they go to a normal school and then you teach them about freedom in your free time?

Are you being funny?

You can't possibly be serious.

"Once you become knowledgeable, you have an obligation to do something about it."- Ron Paul



Bump for Animal Farm


And a really smart kid!

allegory - ˈalɪg(ə)ri/ - noun - 1. a story, poem, or picture which can be interpreted to reveal a hidden meaning, typically a moral or political one.

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That's superb!

Bravo to both of you!

Currently consuming: Gatto: "Underground history of education..", FDR; Wii U; NEP Football


I wish she would be old enough to vote in 2016!

"When the people fear the government, there is tyranny. When the government fears the people, there is liberty."

-Thomas Jefferson

I am confused.

Why all the talk about handwriting analysis? If the FBI wanted to know the age of the person who wrote this, I am sure they would read the preceding caption, and discover it was the 14 year old daughter of the person who posted this. Sometimes when making an analysis, it is best to start with the evidence that is the most clear. Why over complicate it? Unless you are questioning the truthfulness of the poster...

To the Dad: In this arduous task of parenting, it is experiences like these that give us hope that we are not totally screwing up! LOL!! How proud you must be of your daughter. Great critical skills!

For Your enlightenment

..and entertainment:
TWO(2) Versions of Orwell's book; via the magic of film;
#1:animated and #2:w/actors,animals (real):


"Beyond the blackened skyline, beyond the smoky rain, dreams never turned to ashes up until.........
...Everything CHANGED !!

constructive criticism;

The first comparison is totally skewed. The Constitution was never meant to protect anyone other then citizens of the USA, and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. If the kid has a problem with that, then the kid has a problem with the fact that the Constitutional USA ever existed at all. Didn't bother reading the rest of it cause the handwriting is all shitty.

"constructive critism"? Hardly. You sir need to study.

Ok wormwoodtwentytwelve,

I've gone through your other posts from the past which are all rather uneventful and definitely not insightful. Your criticism of this young lady, even if it were valid (which it is not) hinges on her "s#$%$" handwriting? I'de take 100 others of that versus the millions of others her age that have no clue and will grow up "paying their taxes", and "voting as their duty".. aka feeding the beast.

Now to be more specific about her take on the Constitution, it is absolutely correct. You might want to actually READ these documents before posting your opinion. Here is an excerpt for you since you apparently don't like to look these things up. "We hold these truths to be self evident, that ALL men are created equal."

It goes on to state that all men are endowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights.. So you mean to tell me Mr. wormwood2012 that only Americans have a creator? That's both odd and extremely ignorant. Even if you don't believe in a creator as such, you must admit that the passage is referring to the authors belief that mankind was created and they specifically state ALL men.. not American men.

I'm guessing the reason you are so upset at this "kid" as you put it (she's got more on the ball than a lot of adults I know btw) is because your wormwood deathstar or event didn't show up in 2012. Since you've had that handle for 4 years now I think it time you got off the fake Conspiracy train and joined the rest of us in scholarly reality.

Oh, and you owe that "kid" and her father an apology.

"Good intentions will always be pleaded for every assumption of authority. It is hardly too strong to say that the Constitution was made to guard the people against the dangers of good intentions. There are men in all ages who mean to govern well, but the

ok fine...

An apology is fair, because I didn't have to be so shitty about the analysis...

In fact I would have more or less deserved a slap in the mouth for that...

I will maintain this though; yes the Constitution recognizes that all men are created equal etc, but that does not mean that it was ever meant to govern the whole globe - just the USA.

I think that allowing for immigration and being a good example to other nations is the way that liberty was intended to spread...

As far as the 2012 thing goes; I think that we have entered into a new age that has been anticipated for a very long time.. I don't think that anyone pulling the strings behind the scenes really ever expected "Nibiru" to suddenly slam into us, but I do believe that a transition process is in effect.. if the transition will result in personal liberty or the opposite I think is up to us...

Have a nice day.


.and I wish could vote a +10.
an apology would be nice.
"Crow is one dish, that's better served up while still warm"
_____ Mark Twain(?)

"Beyond the blackened skyline, beyond the smoky rain, dreams never turned to ashes up until.........
...Everything CHANGED !!


That was refreshing. Thanks.

Maybe? LOL! Very nice. Just

Maybe? LOL! Very nice. Just make sure the kid also reads some good spiritual stuff like Siddartha, or ALL the books of Narnia. There has to be some balance or you will raise up an angry one.. :)

That's Right

From infancy, they pretty much know to please Dad.

However, there often comes a time (puberty) when the attitude shifts, regardless of parenting style.

Getting the balance of parenting style between authoritarian and neglect, just right (i.e., libertarian), is critical, so that when they go looking for the next "dad" they aren't looking for an authoritarian despot either because they want more authority or because it's the only thing they know. (It amazes me how many females are afraid to be alone; now there's something they ought to know how to do!)

Now is the time to teach values and skills!

(Humm. I assume you're an engineer, or something like that. There's something very organized about that paper, and the handwriting is similar to mine (which is similar to my engineer Dad's).

What do you think? http://consequeries.com/

Nice, but I would bet

Nice, but I would bet everything I own the poster wrote this and not his daughter. You guys want to buy some great swampland here in Florida or a bridge in NY. I'll make you a great price! LOL

"In reality, the Constitution itself is incapable of achieving what we would like in limiting government power, no matter how well written."

~ Ron Paul, End the Fed

A simple cursory handwriting analysis reveals that this...

is the writing of a young person, not an adult.

9-11 was a panda job.

Not saying you;re wrong

but how so ?

"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."-- Albert Einstein

Professional Graphologists - like the ones that work for the FBI

would say that you can't be 100% certain of the author's age or gender, but you can guess with some degree of certainty based on a couple of things, such as the 'slant' of the writing. To quote from Handwriting and Personality:

"Multiple slants are common in children's writing before the age of fifteen, partly because the extensor muscles in their hands aren't fully developed. Sometimes, however, multiple slants occur in the writing of children who are being emotionally pulled in two directions... Remember, multiple slants that aren't too severe reflect changing moods and/or temporary fatigue, so be careful before you jump to conclusions."

Combine the major clue of multiple slants with the immature letter forms, the arrangement of the 'blocks' of text in an adult-like layout and the pencil rather than pen, and you can be fairly confident in guessing the age of the author (but don't jump to conclusions - it's rude).

9-11 was a panda job.

well ok then,

your own comments leave me wondering whether you're offering semi-hokum. You initially thought she was 7, then when you found out she was 14, that didn't raise any questions.

And you describe her as "not having many toys" then a bunch of other stuff which you stipulate applies to every other 14 year old on the planet. If so, how can you tell anything if handwriting analysis tells you it could be any kid on the planet?

So, what is your take on it?

Here's mine:

I don't mean to offend, but quite frankly to me this is what it looks like: I think it is an adult trying to write like a kid. The sentence form and complexity are not what one expects of a 14 year old. A 14 year old unless parotting a parent's views is unlikely (though it isn't impossible) to have deeply formed analysis like this. Girls tend to write neater than that, also. Smart kids tend to generally have fairly good penmanship and linearity. And the lack of linearity to it seems artificial to me, again, like what an adult would do to make handwriting look like that of a kid or a teen.

"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."-- Albert Einstein

I will respond to your enquiry.

With sober fingers tomorrow forthwith.

Here's a hint - I didn't want to offend the author of this post nor his daughter by a suggestion that the letter forms were immature and lacking.

Whomever did this did a good job, let's leave it at that for now.

9-11 was a panda job.

okay wow

cool, I am really curious...not trying to slag you or the daughter of whoever...it just doesn't look right to me...but will check out what you say...

"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."-- Albert Einstein

To Be Skeptical is normal

..and I gotta admit; I was wavering between skepticism and admiration.
Your comment re: handwriting analysis is certainly eye-opening.
I do believe I'll consider putting this "tool of knowledge" in my toolbox of life.
Thanks for sharing this insight with all of us.

"Beyond the blackened skyline, beyond the smoky rain, dreams never turned to ashes up until.........
...Everything CHANGED !!


The pigs are walkin'!

Good job little one.

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Important distinction...

The idea of rights to life, liberty, and property are not mentioned in the Constitution. The rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness are mentioned in the Declaration of Independence.

It is really important to understand this.

The Constitution, with its attempt to legitimize coercive taxation and the introduction of a monopolistic state which claims to not only determine what property those it "governs" can call their own, but the position of final arbitrator in any disputes between those "governed" and the state, was functionally in direct opposition to the rights mentioned in the Declaration of Independence.

The Constitution was, and is, a repudiation of the Declaration of Independence. Moreover, it imposed on the war weary people of North America essentially the same tyranny some of them had been insightful and audacious enough to try to throw off.