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Rand Paul Joins Ted Cruz on Senate Floor On Defunding Obamacare - 9/24/13

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Do You Know What You Are Not Hearing? And Why You Should be Mad.

Virginia Ratifying Convention 6-16-1788:

In Full: http://www.americanpatriotparty.cc/americanpatriotpartynewsl...

Mr. PENDLETON. "Mr. Chairman, this (supremacy / Sweeping) clause does "NOT" give Congress power to impede the operation of "ANY PART" of the Constitution,

>>>>>(N)OR to make "ANY REGULATION" that (EVEN) "MAY" AFFECT the interests of the CITIZENS OF THE UNION AT LARGE " ---

---"....I understand that clause as NOT going a "SINGLE STEP BEYOND" the "DELEGATED powers". What can it act upon? Some power given by "THIS" Constitution.

If they should be about to "PASS A LAW" in consequence of this clause, they MUST pursue some of the "DELEGATED powers",but can by "NO MEANS" DEPART from them,

(N)OR "ARROGATE" "ANY NEW" powers; for the PLAIN LANGUAGE of the clause is, to give them power to pass laws in order to give "effect" to the "DELEGATED" powers"."

The Welfare Clause limits the Federal Government to collecting Taxes for ONLY NATIONAL DEFENSE AND THE NATIONAL DEBT IN CONSEQUENCE OF THAT POWER - READ IT - SAME DAY CONVENTION:

"Mr. GEORGE NICHOLAS, in reply to the gentlemen opposed to the clause under debate, went over the same grounds, and developed the same principles, which Mr. Pendleton and Mr. Madison had done. The opposers of the {443} clause, which gave the power of "providing for" the "GENERAL WELFARE", supposed its dangers to result from its connection with, and "extension of", the powers granted in the "other clauses".

He endeavored to show the committee that it "ONLY" "empowered" "Congress" to make "SUCH LAWS" as would be necessary to "enable" them to pay the "PUBLIC DEBTS" and provide for the "COMMON DEFENCE"; >that this "GENERAL WELFARE" was united, "NOT" to "the general power of legislation", but to the >>>"PARTICULAR" POWER>>>> of laying and collecting taxes, imposts, and excises, FOR THE >>>"PURPOSE" of paying the DEBTS and providing for the "COMMON DEFENCE", that is, that they could "raise" (ONLY) "AS MUCH MONEY" (ONLY) as would pay the "DEBTS" and provide for the "COMMON DEFENCE", in >>>>"CONSEQUENCE OF THIS POWER".

The clause which was affectedly called the sweeping clause contained "NO new grant of power". To illustrate this position, he observed that, if it had been added at the end of every one of the enumerated powers, instead of being inserted at the end of all, it would be obvious to any one that it was "NO" augmentation of power. If, for instance, at the end of the clause granting power to lay and collect taxes, it had been added that they should have power to make necessary and proper laws to lay and collect taxes, who could suspect it to be an addition of power? As it would grant "NO" new power if inserted at the end of each clause, it could not when subjoined to the whole.

He then proceeded thus: But, says he, who is to determine the extent of such powers? I say, the same power which, in "ALL" "well-regulated communities" (STATE, COUNTY), determines the "extent" of "legislative" powers. If they exceed these powers, the "JUDICIARY" >>>"WILL" declare it "VOID", or else "the PEOPLE" (THEMSELVES) will have a "RIGHT" to "DECLARE" it "VOID". Is this depending on any man? But, says the gentleman, it may go to any thing. It may destroy the trial by jury; and they may say it is necessary for providing for the general defence. The power of providing for the general defence "ONLY EXTENDS" to raise any sum of money they may think necessary, by taxes, imposts,

But, says he, our "only" defence against "oppressive laws" consists in the "virtue of our representatives".

>>>>>>>"This was misrepresented".

If I understand it right, >>>>"NO" "NEW" POWER CAN BE "EXERCISED"."

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NONE! EVER! NOT EVEN RATIFYING IT, BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE A "MEANS"

THAT IS WHAT MAKES US A REPUBLIC UNDER AN ORIGINAL COMPACT AND NOT A DEMOCRACY!

... And You hear Rand Paul whimper and say "compromise"???;

WHEN HE SHOULD BE YELLING:

GO AHEAD OBAMA & REID! PASS YOUR STUPID LITTLE BILL!

"WHEN I GET BACK TO MY STATE, WE'RE GOING WRITE A HALF PAGE POINTING OUT THE UNCONSTITUTIONALITY OF IT AS JAMES MADISON DID IN THE VIRGINIA RESOLUTION AGAINST THE ALIEN AND SEDITION ACTS AND "NULLIFY IT"!"

( Virginia Resolution in Full: http://www.americanpatriotparty.cc/candidates )

"IT WILL ALWAYS BE UNCONSTITUTIONAL BECAUSE IT IS AN UNDELEGATED, ARROGATED, UNCONSTITUTIONAL, "NEW" POWER; WHICH BY THE FOUNDER'S OWN WORDS, IS EXPRESSLY PROHIBITED; AS "NO NEW POWER CAN BE EXERCISED, NOT EVEN BY "ONE STEP" OR BY "ANY MEANS"!"

Read it:

Virginia Ratifying Convention 6-16-1788:

In Full: http://www.americanpatriotparty.cc/americanpatriotpartynewsl...

It is so nauseating, that throughout the filibuster's; both Ran Paul's earlier filibuster and Ted Cruise's recent one;

That they both fail to bring up the critical points of the Ratifying Conventions that simply nullify everything of these ridiculous bills entail, and fail to proclaim that they will work with their state governors to simply stomp them out at the state level and borders;

Yet they use "weak nothing filler" such as "Green Eggs and Ham" and repetitive "whining" or "oh, it will hurt people".

Your efforts would have been better served, while spending so much time on the floor, to "actually READ the Ratifying Conventions (6-16-1788 especially) and other Documents such as the Virginia and Kentucky Resolutions, Rights of the Colonists and John Locke that show how "LITTLE power the federal government has" outside the ORIGINAL COMPACT; Throw in Federalist #46 if they don't "get it";...

AND ACTUALLY "EDUCATE THE PUBLIC"! WHAT A REMARKABLE IDEA!

Get Some Spine.

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5 Critical Founders Documents to Read:
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Mr. MADISON. "Mr. Chairman: I did conceive, sir, that the clause under consideration was one of those parts which would speak its own praise. It is hardly necessary to say any thing concerning it. Strike it out of the system, and let me ask whether there would not be much larger scope for those dangers. I cannot comprehend that the "POWER OF LEGISLATING" over a "SMALL DISTRICT", which "CANNOT EXCEED" "TEN MILES SQUARE", and "MAY NOT BE MORE" than ONE MILE, will involve the dangers which he (PATRICK HENRY) apprehends.

If there be any knowledge in my mind of the nature of man, I should think it would be the LAST THING that would enter into the mind of ANY MAN to grant "EXCLUSIVE ADVANTAGES", in a >>>"VERY CIRCUMSCRIBED DISTRICT", to the prejudice of the COMMUNITY >>>AT LARGE. " ...

Virginia Ratifying Convention 6-16-1788:

In Full: http://www.americanpatriotparty.cc/americanpatriotpartynewsl...

RichardTaylorAPP - Chair - American Patriot Party.CC

John Locke #201, 202, 212 to 232; Virginia and Kentucky Resolutions 1798; Virginia Ratifying Convention 6-16-1788; Rights of the Colonists 1772.

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Cruz: I will go to my grave in debt to Rand Paul.

Pretty awesome words.

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Do I need to bump this myself?

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RichardTaylorAPP - Chair - American Patriot Party.CC

John Locke #201, 202, 212 to 232; Virginia and Kentucky Resolutions 1798; Virginia Ratifying Convention 6-16-1788; Rights of the Colonists 1772.