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Will `Ace' McCain Flame Out Again?

John Sidney McCain III is known among many of his Vietnam flight buddies as "Ace" McCain. This title has not been bestowed upon McCain because he destroyed five enemy aircraft. On the contrary: It was five on our side -- in fact, five of his own. Since throwing his hat into the presidential ring, the fact that McCain was graduated from the U.S. Naval Academy nearly at the bottom of his class has been publicized. His star-crossed flying, on the other hand, remains unknown to most.
Robert Timberg, author of The Nightingale's Song, a book about Annapolis graduates and their tours in Vietnam, wrote that McCain "learned to fly at Pensacola, though his performance was below par, at best good enough to get by. He liked flying, but didn't love it." Timberg counts himself a friend of McCain and has written a McCain biography.

It wasn't long after arriving in Pensacola that McCain racked up the first of his five crashes, beginning in 1958, on his way to becoming a "reverse ace." As told by Timberg, "McCain was practicing landings; his engine quit and he plunged into Corpus Christi Bay. Knocked unconscious by the impact, he came to as the plane settled to the bottom."

There was, however, no engine failure with the aircraft. According to one of McCain's former flight instructors, "The engine was removed from the aircraft that afternoon, mounted on a test stand and a new propeller installed. [It] was flushed with fresh water and started. It ran just fine. So the theory of engine failure was proven false."

The instructor added that McCain was "positively one of the weakest students to pass our way, and received consistently poor marks and a number of Dangerous Down grades assigned by more than one instructor. He had no real ability and was clearly out of his element in an airplane, and way over his head even as a junior naval officer."


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Look guys, McPain and Rommel are our biggest competition right? We should go on the attack (yes i said we). Here is my thought:
McPain has a very hot temper right? If we can have some strategically places paulheads in his speaking engagements, and as some questions where he will "blow up", it would show his true colors.
I'm suggesting that we go on the offensive on these guys. If they are anywhere near you, go to their event, pose as one of them, then ask the killer question. If you like this idea, then we should try to orgainze something. We would have to do it as non-paulites so that we are not accused in the MSM as "meanies".
Say YES to Dr. NO

"Government is the entertainment division of the military-industrial complex". - Frank Zappa

The man crashed four jets before he ever saw combat, then

after only thirty days in Vietnam he was shot down and broke his leg(s)

After he crashed the second jet, he never should have been allowed to fly again. But having a daddy who is a Navy adminal sure helped, didn't it?


On a more serious note, however, there has been no discussion of what actions were or were not taken in dealing with McCain after each of the aircraft losses. Neither McCain's senatorial nor campaign offices returned Insight's calls on these matters. But a Navy insider notes that "after every such incident an inquiry is conducted to conclude the cause of the crash. If it were anyone other than the admiral's son, his wings would have been pulled. But that's where that kind of father comes in handy."

"Thank God not all pilots are like McCain," jokes another pilot, "or the government would be buying a hell of a lot more planes."



I'd like to call J-Mac plain...Cain (as in Book of Genesis).

"In circuit motorsport, a driver has..."Paul position" when he or she starts a race at the front of the grid."

How about Cain and not Able




McCain new quote on CNN


He said that he would follow Bin Laden to the gates of hell. He just repeated this in Florida with a bunch of Veterns behind him. He said that the VA needs to be revamped (Paul said it first). He said we have a moral obligation to be the policemen because we were the last big superpower. Yes, I know that the US police best groups with oil.


McCain does seem a little light headed, usually

gives the same old tired messege. But, he's the most entenched GOP establishment guy they've got, so it's no wonder he's getting the big GOP push. Notice all the endorsments coming around for him. I'll bet these people are being leaned on pretty hard. McCain beats the same old war drum.....heck he even openly says he'll committ more troops and doesn't care if we stay there for 50 years. This is incredible. I can't believe people are supporting him. He's the best they've got, so they'll be pushing him pretty hard. Deep down, he seems like a smart ass redneck, playing that sypathy POW card. I think Mitt's going to be going after him with some crud soon. McCain has a lot of weaknesses that should, and probably will be exploited.

alan laney

Regarding his history as a

Regarding his history as a POW, frankly, I have more sympathy for the Vietnamese who were forced to hold this insufferable, mealy-mouthed, warmongering hypocrite for three years! Now THAT would have been torture!

Bwwaaahhhh! lmao

"Victory for liberty! That is our goal, and nothing less. -- Ron Paul, December 17, 2007"

Ron Paul is my President.

he just spoke in Sun City...

....Florida, and began by saying...

"It's wonderful to be here in Sun City, SOUTH CAROLINA."

(On CNN "ballot bowl" @ about 3PM eastern time.)

It should only be a matter of time until he has his "Howard Dean scream" moment...

Increase the anonymous

Increase the anonymous heckling. He'll blow a gasket in no time.

"The main thing that I learned about conspiracy theory is that conspiracy theorists actually believe in a conspiracy because that is more comforting. The truth of the world is that it is chaotic..." —Alan Moore

Oh, but he can withstand

Oh, but he can withstand inhumane levels of torture. Isn't that good enough for a leader?

"The main thing that I learned about conspiracy theory is that conspiracy theorists actually believe in a conspiracy because that is more comforting. The truth of the world is that it is chaotic..." —Alan Moore

I hope so

If he becomes pres. were doomed.

Mathew 5:9 Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.

If either Hillary or Barack

If either Hillary or Barack run against him, he loses. If Ron Paul runs against either Clinton or Obama, the advantage is with the Republicans.

"The main thing that I learned about conspiracy theory is that conspiracy theorists actually believe in a conspiracy because that is more comforting. The truth of the world is that it is chaotic..." —Alan Moore