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Cruz has set the bar.

All they had to talk about on the floor today was Cruz. He has set the bar for future discussion. This is what happens when one person shows a set of balls. please feel welcome to make yourself a fool and argue against this fantastic example of intestinal fortitude.

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Presidential aspirations

This positioned Cruz to play spoiler. Most likely did not position him to win the presidency.

Rand didn't do it, wisely, because it's an ultra-divisive issue and this sort of partisan grandstanding would undermine his appeal in a close election.

Cruz is an establishment hack. An occasionally convincing hack, but nothing but a hack.

Cruz is part of the criminal network

Do NOT trust this man. He worked for Dubya, he worked for John Boehner. He attended Harvard and Princeton... The epic story-line of his father has a makings of a Hollywood movie which climaxes with him working for big-oil and sending his boy off to an Ivy League school.

I have only circumstantial evidence through association... and a gut feeling, but this guy's a future war criminal.

At their inceptions, the #Liberty, #OccupyWallStreet and #TeaParty movements all had the same basic goal... What happened?

END the FED!

END the FED!!

What Was Accomplished?

Was it successful in defunding Obamacare? No.

Did it delay the vote on the continuing resolution? No, the vote happened on schedule.

Did it inform Americans? No, everybody already knows about Obamacare.

Did it add anything to the debate? No, he spent much of his time talking about unrelated subjects.

Was it politically risky? No, polling already shows that Obamacare is unpopular.

Did it buy some publicity for Ted Cruz? Yes.

Does this imply Cruz will act as a spoiler candidate in the 2016 primary? Yes.

I tend to agree with you on all of your points.

But one thing ATruepatriot eluded to, we need more floor time. Hopefully other Liberty folks will step to the plate as Rand and Cruz have done.

I am on the fence with Cruz. I feel that he should stay where he is and continue to do a good job there. I will never support him for president.

"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul

It set a Record and got the Attention of a Nation.

Including the attention of it's so called "lawmakers", Done deal. Well done. Have nuts, gain freedom! Nay say all you like.

If I disappear from a discussion please forgive me. My 24-7 business requires me to split mid-sentence to serve them. I am not ducking out, I will be back later to catch up.

"please feel welcome to make yourself a fool"

I'll bite.

Rand did a helluva job informing sleeping Americans about the drones.

That said, Cruz did a fantastic job.

"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul

Love you my friend

I was on my knees all day with my hands clasped just wanting for this country to get off of the couch and watch the process that makes this Country great. Fail, Still no one even here from the DP actually watched and took notes so that they could prevail in their own personal debates. I fear we may have lost due to pure laziness and in-concern. P.S. At the end McConnell did a turn about. Lol.

If I disappear from a discussion please forgive me. My 24-7 business requires me to split mid-sentence to serve them. I am not ducking out, I will be back later to catch up.

Same here, ATruepatriot :-)

I was throwing a little humor out there since you set yourself up for it lol. All in fun, my friend!

I do get the drift, and you are right. Rand and Cruz both have done what we need more of. We may not prevail immediately, but there is still much hope.

No worries here, I absolutely do take notes :-)

"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul

Share your wisdom my friend.

Do not let the Naysayers dictate which direction the herd turns. I will stand on, and defend GOOD THINGS No matter the source. I will not be lock step into any party of any kind. I am my party. Yet with all the "Individualism" and "Non-Collectivism" I am pretty sure we have a lot of growing up to do before we even get the chance to root from the bulb. You know, there are fertile grounds we could root in if we were not so damned picky.

Thank you for having your eyes wide open my friend.

If I disappear from a discussion please forgive me. My 24-7 business requires me to split mid-sentence to serve them. I am not ducking out, I will be back later to catch up.

I like what cruz did, but you

I like what cruz did, but you seem to be looking to stir up trouble.We dont need that.

Actually I am

"Don't stir the pot" Well Ted stirred the pot today and we need to take example in what he did. So I am "Stirring the pot", With all love shared my friend.

If I disappear from a discussion please forgive me. My 24-7 business requires me to split mid-sentence to serve them. I am not ducking out, I will be back later to catch up.

No, looking for debate.

Been here awhile and am tired of the "I want my cake and eat it too" spoiled individuals that only care about their own personal toys. Sorry I would like to fix the economy for the future of my Grandchildren equaling 8 little farts. And their children and grandchildren if they ever decide to share without greed and selfishness. Tough nut to crack this "Love and share" thing within the Libertarian folks. Seems it is all about Me,Me,Me.

If I disappear from a discussion please forgive me. My 24-7 business requires me to split mid-sentence to serve them. I am not ducking out, I will be back later to catch up.