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Don't whine about the problem. SOLVE IT!

Are you upset about how the corporate-controlled, old media ignores and marginalizes Ron Paul and our movement? Yeah, me too! Well, it is time for us to 1) get used to it, 2) get over it, and 3) take matters into our own hands! The Campaign has made it super easy for us to do just that with the Precinct Leader program.

Click the link, sign up and get started. Precincts are very small - mine is about 15 blocks. I walk these streets every day on my daily errands and walks. I can easily drop off literature & chat with my neighbors on these walks. And what do you know! Of all the precincts in my area

People, we are running out of time. Super Tuesday is less than two weeks away. To help Ron Paul and this movement, what we need more than anything, is votes on Super Tuesday.

We cannot rely on the "mainstream" media to get our message out. We must be our own media. If you agree, then what are you waiting for?

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I try to talk to two people

I try to talk to two people each day and ask them to talk to two people etc etc. Figure the numbers that could add up of people talked to and made aware of Ron Paul. I do this as I walk my precinct. I hope it helps. Those people with computers can check out what I've said.

[i]Seek Knowledge And All Else Will Follow[/i]

Great Idea! and use DVD!

I'm doing the same, but I usually end up talking to more than 2 new people per day. Also, I rely on DVD to do the talking as far as introducing RP. I'm focusing on introducing the DVD, which is not hard. I found this to be much more effective than me trying to sell Ron Paul.

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This is only the minor part of the problem

Of course the Precinct Leaders are of fundamental value to get the votes out. There's no question about it. However, all this effort will continue to be in vain if we continue ignoring the biggest problem we are facing which is the fairness of the election system. Machines which are anything but transparent, the complete absence of a rigid protocol when dealing with machine failure, or how to handle the ballots, how to have the ballots on a 24x7 electronic surveillance, and many many other security details which seem to be COMPLETELY missing. If you ask yourselves "do I trust that my vote will be accurately counted?" and your answer is "Yes!" that's when we lost this election! We cannot look at only one side of the problem without addressing the other!

Where is the Bar Association? Shouldn't they be ALL OVER this? Where's the ACLU and other associations? Their silence is very telling! Either they don't get it or they're part of the problem!

Quite honestly, if Ron Paul is to be our next president and I truly hope he will be, I would like to see the Campaign (which is Ron Paul anyway) going full force after these issues! That's what I expect in a leader that believes in accountability! So far I haven't seen much action coming from them and this is where the grassroots and Ron Paul seem to have a disconnect, a very big one.

How do we solve this? Does anyone know? I haven't a clue where to begin!

There is no journalism in this country to keep things in check. Where do we start? Here we are moments before Super-Duper-Tuesday with all these doubts and we seem to be choosing to ignore them and just keep going in blind faith that we'll elect Ron Paul if we just get the word out about him!

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"You take the blue pill and the story ends. You wake in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill and you stay in Wonderland and I show you how deep the rabbit-hole goes. -- all I am offering is the truth, nothing more."

spread the news via email or phone

i can send 500 emails at a time using this link::

http://www.rys2sense.com/anti-neocons/viewtopic.php?t=6984&s...

I found email to be less effective.

I started out blasting emails to frinds. I have over 200 contacts. And, I follwed up with closer frinds, but usually emails that I sent did not make much impact. Most of them were still unaware of Ron Paul after all the emails that I sent.

I can see why. My friends send me emails, too, but I often don't clink the link if it is a mass email, even if it came from a friend.

The only time email was somewhat effective was when I sent it to one person at time.

Right now, I'm focusing on DVD. I'm getting much better results than any other ways that I've tried.

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And the Whining Continues

I have Post only once or twice and it has always been on the possitive. I just got done reading several of the Posts here and the MSM is doing their job well in my opinion. Every other Post seems to be an attack on an earlier post. They have you fighting with each other and you are going right along with it. Stop berating each other and take time to give helpful advice. This is "OUR" Country we are fighting for and "UNITY" is our only chance. If you want to play the "Blame Game" go look in the mirror. How long have each of us sat back and done nothing till now. We should be honored to be playing a part in this Campaign and not complaining about how much we are giving up. This Campaign is for our Children and Grandchildren more than ourselves. We may never see the results of this Revolution; but, I am hoping my children do. Fight the fight you can and encourage those around you; but, stop the attacks. From One Patriot to Another

Ron Paul
President 2008
Patriot of the Republic

1P2A
Shawn

A friendly reminder. It is Old Media, not M..

Thank you.

For Freedom!

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CoLoneWolf is right, . .

Let Huckabee, Rudy, McCain, and Mitt fight with each other and do the dirty work for us. Ron Paul is untouchable just by speaking the truth and sticking to his guns. Do not fight with each other, stay on the up and up and the light will shine brightly for Freedom while the darkness of the neocons will be more and more visible to more and more people with each passing day.

Now go and give at least $25, promise you will stick together and STAY POSITIVE. ok? We haven't much time.

I really wish EVERYBODY would read this Topic

I keep seeing MSM topics popping up in here and it's ALL Old News by now and the whining about it doesn't get Ron Paul into the White House. All this whining and complaining makes us all look like spoiled brats who aren't getting their own way and having tamptrums acting childish and like cry babies Get Over It.

Let's Move On and Solve the Problem on our Own, Forget the MSM they aren't gonna change they are in too deep. We have already made History throughout this campaign so Now picture Ron Paul getting the GOP Nomination and then the Presidency, just think of Ron Paul's message being heard around the globe just imagine what the Grassroots will be remembered for, "Doing the Impossible: Ron Paul's Grassroot Campaign BEATS the Mainstream Media and Corporate America! Power to the People!". We are and will continue to make history so Let's make this HAPPEN and let's put ALL our creativities in HIGH GEAR!!! As Ron Paul has stated many times We have only begun! The Fight is Far from Over. Now's the time we ALL Pull ourselves together and act as a TEAM on the same Page and let's get Ron Paul into the Presidency!

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"We, the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution, but to overthrow men who pervert the Constitution." Abraham Lincoln

Old Media. NOT M..

Please stop calling them M.. Please, correctly refer them as Old Media.

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MoneyBooM

Guys, wouldn't a fatas moneyboom on feb 4th be awsome?
It might give us the publicity we need for Super Tuesday, and it is the day before paul campaign needs 8.4mil.
I think it would be alot better and make more people donate if its feb 4th than feb 1st (http://www.libertytax08.com/)

If you think so too spread the word.

just do it... and, does anyone have advice on...

...enlisting help from those called -- or called on -- to do some canvassing themselves?

My canvassing today was a bit subdued; I didn't meet any RP supporters at all, although 1 guy seems like he should be (and probably will be once he does his homework; I left him with 2 pieces of lit and a DVD) and another was very impressed that I was out canvassing in near-freezing rain and spots of wet ice on the ground (he seemed interested because of that, so that's hopeful). The good side was, the few people who *did* already have another candidate in mind were really nice anyway. It's easy to be friendly. Even the ex-special forces guy who called RP a "pain in the ass" and said he supports McCain ended up becoming really friendly by the time I climbed down his stairs and made my way back up his driveway. I don't think he'll ever support RP, but I'm sure he'll remember the nice, down-to-earth guy who came by on that miserable January day to stump for the doc. By the time I was leaving his property he was wishing me well.

So, folks... just do it. You'll make a difference. The unworthies don't inspire people to go out and do this. Only RP does. Press our advantage!

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Finding supporters

We've setup a call center in massachusetts, where an auto dialer calls people and asks them if they are ron paul supporters and if they are they hit a number and it transfers them to the call center. This way the call center gets only Ron Paul supporters. This also takes some pressure of the precicnt leaders. I haven't come across a real RP supporter in my canvasing yet either. I've had some positive responses, but for the most part I'm just concentrating on getting as many DVDs and slim jims in the hands of my registered undeclared and republicans.

NOW is the time for all good

NOW is the time for all good men/women to come to the aid of their country!

I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies.The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people to whom it properly belongs.
Thomas Jefferson

“It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds”
-Sam Adams

Some rural precincts are not so small..

Mine is over a hundred square miles with hundreds of miles of mostly unpaved roads connecting farms and homes often several miles apart from each other! Nevertheless, I have signed on as a precinct captain though, needless to say, it'll mostly have to be covered by phone, not by car--much less on foot! Will do my best.
However, have been canvassing door-to-door steadily for weeks now in county seat where there are more people in a few blocks or even apartment complex than in most of my precinct, so can deliver literature to those folks.

salt-of-the-earth

My precinct has 4,000 people in it.

The best hope is to find other supporters to help out. Thanks for your efforts, it's a lot of work keep going only a few days left!

Think about this

Think about the infrastructure we will have set up for the general election. Think of the relationships you will already have. Think about how well you'll know the issues that are important to your neighbors. This will give us the chance to win the Republican nomination, but regardless of that happens or not, we will have the tools and power to effect the general election.

I'm 75% done dropping lit in my precinct. HOW FAR ALONG ARE YOU???

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"No man has a natural right to commit aggression on the equal
rights of another, and this is all from which the laws ought to restrain him." --Thomas Jefferson

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Libertas, Pax, Prosperitas

March Onward Revolutionaries!

We will not Stop!!!!! Liberty and life!
We will Win no matter what happens from here.
We are in it to win it and the battles are many to come!
We have A country to Restore!
The Efforts at Boca Raton,Fl were fun and I'm sure a few hundred people or more heard a bell ring for liberty!
I'm Proud to be among such peaceful Revolutionaries who are standing up for our constitution and our country.
That BocaRaton after debate speech at Mcormick and Schmicks was Powerful and only eighteen minutes long.I had to catch it on the internet --long day marching and such.
Watched the debate with my 73 year old Grandmother and she really liked what Ron Paul had to say --she thought the press should let him talk more !
She mentioned that she really liked his jay leno appearance , Thank you Jay Leno for that interview.He has more viewers than people that saw the debates so I think we are making Great Progress.
All in this Revolution should be reinvigorated with the swelling of the Ron Paul Army.
We now are going to get some big financial people backing us because of the exposure in the debates to the Monetary Issue.
Onward We March!

Opresso De Liber
Life,Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness!
Conscious of Our Creator and Source of our Liberties.

This is truly grassroots!

I'm so tired of the naysayers who are actively opposing this. Getting involved as a Precinct Leader is the BEST way to reach people in our own areas! I think the ones who do not want to do this or find ways to criticize just don't want to actually do any work! As for the others who are getting out there or making calls, WAY TO GO!

RON PAUL!!

Who's gonna win? RON PAUL!!

THIS IS THE ONLY WAY RON PAUL CAN WIN IN YOUR COUNTY AND STATE!

THE RON PAUL PRECINCT LEADER WEBSITE HAS BEEN IMPROVED! They are recommending a new easier strategy!:
The first Step is Voter ID, this is where you contact the voters and ask them some questions to see what their issues are and if they are leaning towards Ron Paul. You have a choice, you can either jump right into calling them from the site OR download the walk list and talk to the voter in person.

So all you nay-sayers complaining about the data not being up to date, you can bring it up to date! That is the first step online, no excuse! But I think it's already accurate.

Now, if you still want to drop off literature before you make phone calls or talk in person, that is fine too, it will improve the odds, but it's NOT absolutely necessary before starting the voter ID process.

As for me, I will be choosing "STEP 1: VOTER IDENTIFICATION" then "ID MY VOTERS BY PHONE". The Precinct Leader website made it so convenient to make the calls, they have the script, the phone number, and the form right there to instantly upload your feedback on the calls. Then, later, I may drop by in person, with the appropriate customized slim jim literature, to talk to anyone that was on the fence about Ron Paul (the good news is that I'll know their important issue to customize the message for Ron Paul). To access the phone lists and enter your updates, please become a "Precinct Leader", don't worry, there can be more than one Precinct Leader per precinct. And remember, this is the only way Ron Paul can win in your county and in your state.

Sign-up here: https://voters.ronpaul2008.com/grassroots

A last point, if you're NOT doing this, then you may as well be doing nothing, if real results, with votes matter to you. Even worse, you may be here discouraging others from becoming a Precinct Leader, this will lose thousands of votes! Bottom line... THIS IS THE ONLY WAY RON PAUL CAN WIN IN YOUR COUNTY AND STATE! Everything else is a complete distraction. We all go nuts over a blimp, etc., but we're not going CRAZY over the ONLY thing that is going to get Ron Paul to win!? Come on! Please help Ron Paul get votes!

With all due respect,

John Reed
Hays County Ron Paul Coordinator
Buda, Texas
Pct. #224

(Republican Liberty Caucus of Texas - Secretary)
http://www.rlctexas.org

Been there, doing that. But answer this Michael.

I'm a precinct leader in the same state as you Michael, signed up a while back, spent hours today designing special flyers for hand delivery to doors, will spend extended lunch hours and some evenings all week canvassing neighborhoods. I'll be in suit and overcoat and applying a career's worth of listening and sales skills to the task of conversion.

Will you look at your precinct's results on Feb. 6? You should. I will. Because if your and my results aren't clearly better than whatever Ron is polling statewide on Feb 4, then it is an unwinnable war on the ground and that isn't only the fault of uneducated sheeple, that is the fault of the official campaign. It will be your job to say that, lest you invite charges of currying favor with HQ, because we who have parted with our valuable time and treasure, even straining family relationships, were just scolded by you to get over it and stop whining.

- JP

10-15 million more voters need to believe in non-interventionism (liberty) at home and abroad to change America. Minds changed on Syria. Minds changing on privacy. "Printing money" is part of the dialogue. Win minds through focus, strategy.

Are you from the microwave generation...? Instant results?

This country took 100's of year to get mess up through man's neglect...and you want to 'blame' HQ or anyone if 'no results' ---as you resent giving you money/time.

How about you give you life...your blood....like our forefathers did.

Your instant microwave revolution...spins on...

With a retort like that,

you haven't advanced the arguement. -JP

10-15 million more voters need to believe in non-interventionism (liberty) at home and abroad to change America. Minds changed on Syria. Minds changing on privacy. "Printing money" is part of the dialogue. Win minds through focus, strategy.

Overlea / Fullerton area of Baltimore

Is there anyone in this area who'd like to canvas with me?

The Retrocon
Hope for America, Ron Paul for President in 2008!

The Retrocon
Hope for America, Ron Paul for President in 2008!

Check out your meetup group

You'd be surprised how many people come out of the woodwork when you organize something.

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My precinct is about 500 homes..

It sounds like a lot but if you do 25 homes a day it isn't much. And if you write letters for shy people and do a little at a time it is doable.

The list looked a lot longer than it was because so many names were the same address. I spent about an hour today and knocked out several pages and had a lot of fun doing it. I was afraid at first but though 'if not me who" .

I can't go to heaven and know that I didn't do all I could have done to stop what will ineveitably come if whe don't get the word out. If we don't educate people. This is a great program but the problem is apathy and fear. At first I took my list and wrote letters and stuffed them with slim jims to the ones that were far off. But, today I bit the bullet and once I got started I had a good time.

Most people were positive and at least wanted information. only one wasnt interested and 1 said she already had stuff and was nice. I picked up a few supporters today.

This is what will make us win. All the negative post below are from Trolls and Nay Sayers. Losers with no heart, no soul, no fight. Whiners and complainers, do nothings that are worth nothing not even the air they use to whine and complain with. The critic does not count. it is the man / woman who is actually out there in the fight that gets the glory.

Do it!

Solve the Problem

As a precinct captain in a rural area I was daunted by the large number of people I was supposed to personally contact (over 1600). I knew that this would be an impossible task for one person and I have no volunteers to help with this task. I have read that they researched what was most effective in the counties in Iowa where Ron Paul received his most votes. They decided that it was a combination of attending meetings, talking to people at restaurants and other places, and placing ads in their local newspapers.

As a county coordinator, that is what I'm advising my other precinct captains to do. I worked with the local meetup group to do a food drive for our food pantry and it was well-received. At the same time, we managed to do 500 door-hangers. We got articles and pictures in the two local newspapers for that (the food drive). Our area meetup groups sponsored a Ron Paul-a-thon and there were several hundred people in attendance. Most were already supporters but not all. Next week, in one of our local papers, there will be a good-sized ad for Ron Paul coming out--the week before Super Tuesday.

Take heart and get creative. This revolution must not die because we didn't get organized soon enough. Use the time you have and God bless.

I know what you mean...

I also am a County Coordinator as of a couple of nights ago here in Springfield Illinois. We have been organized in an unorganized way for several months now through meetup. It wasn't until about a month ago we sponsored an Envelope Pizza Party with an ad we ran for FREE PIZZA in our 52,000 circulation daily paper. It ran once and 80 people came with about 40 of them new faces to the grassroots campaign effort here. We had this party to introduce Ron Paul for those who were already supporters but did not know the meetup existed. We also launched the Illinois Patriots PAC that night. At the pizza party, we filled envelopes with 10 RP regular slim jims and one each of 5 issue specific slim jims. Everyone received one as they entered the pizza party and were told not to open them yet. Our MC announced for every one to take their evalopes out of their pockets/purses and take out the slim jims and put just the slim jims back into their pockets. They were then instructed as to what to do with those envelopes after they were informed of our radio, TV and news paper advertising goals and plans for central and downstate Illinois. We paid for $415.00 worth of pizza and drink. We asked that all would then return their envelope as they were leaving to the box where they came in with their most generous donation. From the envelopes we received $397.00. We also announced the launching of our website for IPPAC and that donations could be placed there as well... tell all your Ron Paul friends! By the time we had returned home we had received an additionl $540.00 WOW!. Since that time, like in 1 week we raised enough to pay for radio and TV commercials, which by the way we just sqeeked in like the last 1/2 of a day to get them paid for and secured for airing the whole week all the way up to Super Tuesday...close. We are now needing to get our newspaper ads for and paid for by their deadlines.

Our local Springfield paper with 52,000 circulation advertised a poll for half a week and then posted the results on Wednesday. With 2726 votes, Ron Pual sits at 2nd with 24.% behind McCan't at 38.9%. Springfield GOP fav Ghoulianne at 6.2%, Mitt Whisper at 13.6 and Huckabeenlaudin at 10.4. And forget the rest.

Just got back from walking my precinct as well and have about 75% more to go. I saw the poll and voted. talked to at least 75 people today (another 75 not home) and no one I talked to saw the poll or ad for it. But at least 50% of those asked if they had decided who to vote for said yes they already decided to vote for..................RON PAUL!!!!! Talk about a spirits booster!

But we don't like a 2nd to McCanbombUIFIwant2. We must solve the MSM problem here also and we are not waiting for a big MSMGOP change of heart here. To see what we are doing and to see if you can help us to break the silence, check these links out.

Please go to our new youtube video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iug0DEMdZns

Go here to see what we are doing in Central Illinois for Ron Paul!
http://www.illinoispatriotspac.org/?q=adblitzupdate012208

Also see this Ron Paul painting being auctioned on ebay!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260206203009

Thanks to all Patriots to make these items viral!
Please send these links to everyone in your address books.

Great job!! Do you have a "chip in" account!!

I went to your site and gave a donation, but I would like to place the embed code for a chip in account to several other blogs I/we maintain over at The Freedom Fellowship... - see

http://thefreedomfellowship.blogspot.com/2008/01/ippac-succe...

Keep up the great work! I live in Evanston, IL. Springfield rocks!

"Lord I have no plans of my own save those you shall reveal to me." Dean Fagerstrom - The Mission Of Anglion

"Lord I have no plans of my own save those you shall reveal to me." Dean Fagerstrom - The Mission Of Anglion

What about the brilliant TV station

That you can help create new content, act as a reposter, send videos, discuss, .... Where are you? www.wtpcast.com