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Now I KNOW Something Good Is Happening In America - Team Calls It Quits After Football Death

BROCTON, N.Y. (AP) — It was a question with no right answer that tugged heavy at the hearts of Damon Janes' teammates when the 16-year-old died after a hit in a high school football game: Should the season go on?

Should the players rally and play every game for their star running back, whose motto was "Giving up is simply not an option"? Or should the teenagers forget about football and take time to mourn their friend?

The Westfield-Brocton Wolverines' varsity players took a paper-ballot vote and decided that the pain was too great, that their season would end after just two games.

"I wanted to play, I love the game," said teammate Stevie Wisecarver III, a 16-year-old quarterback who has played football since third grade. "But it just wouldn't feel right without him. The team just didn't feel right."

Added 17-year-old senior cornerback Joey Villafrank: "It feels like there's more to life. Before, football used to be life for me; it was the only sport I played. But now I realize that there's more than just playing the game."

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"It was a question with no right answer that tugged heavy..."

I have a grand nephew who plays football.
He has a hole in his heart.
He had it patched.
Football is so important to him that he was back on the field within days of surgery. He's driven.
Since his first season as a little guy every coach has schmoozed his parents to get him for their team.
It would have been a VERY HEAVY decision for him to quit football for a season - a huge sacrifice like you can't imagine.

Lot of discussion.
I'm 62.
I used to be a cross country coach in my twenties.
I wish I could jog today.
I can't because I played H.S. football and tore up my knees.
Just sayin'

Bread and circuses.. and

Bread and circuses.. and other comments from the peanut gallery. I can always tell when someone churps about something that they have never done or experienced. I had played football and base ball since I was 8 years old. I was good enough to win a college scholarship to play football in college and a good enough linebacker to be invited to camp by the Denver Broncos. I learned many things playing Football. Many life lessons that have carried over to my business and life. I loved to play and had great times and great memories with many great people. If that was me on that team I would have voted to continue to still play. This shows to me how young men have become pussyfied over the years. Kids can't play army, Tag is being outlawed at recess etc. etc. etc. If you have never played the game SHUT YOUR MOUTH.

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"This shows to me how young men have become pussyfied over the years. Kids can't play army, Tag is being outlawed at recess etc. etc."

Exactly... Must be an ("ex") liberal democrat that started this thread??! It is also pretty telling who thinks this is a positive story.

I've had it with playing nice with these obvious trolls.... base... aghhemmm.... 1ass... .....

The 'lesson' of this story is inconsistent with the values of individualism, libertarianism, competition, and success. You can never succeed in life, by giving in, or giving up.

What will happen if there is Civil unrest, and civil war? Will young American men have the internal fortitude to fight, after possibly seeing people they care about killed in front of them? Why are government institutions training the people to be wussies, while the government is militarizing law enforcement and 'homeland security'?

Can you not see this DailyPaul?! How many wussy "Ex" Liberals here are still really just whiny wussy liberals who learned how to do math and realized RonPaul was right on monetary/fiscal policy? Hmmm? Let's see...

PEOPLE OPPOSING TYRANNY - Real Grass Roots!
Are you a POT or a PET - Person Embracing Tyranny?

You're kidding, right?

"If you have never played the game SHUT YOUR MOUTH."

Really? I have never played football, and I have something to say about it...

You are correct. Bread and circuses. It's a game.

Sir, while I agree with much of your post.

I Condemn you for placing the effort on individuals.

NO Individuals tell their kids NOT TO PLAY ARMY. IT WASN'T PARENTS that wanted to stop Dodge Ball.

You Sir are nothing but a statist troll.

You hate individuals much more than you do Government to absolutely control every by any one of them. And you think you will be secure'.

What do you really want? And do you think you have it?

Granger seems to be gone, exposed. Are you the next Granger?

You won't last long. And I don't mean on DP.

This discussion has brought up a lot of good points.

As people look at life today in America and how we interact with people around the world.

Does anyone question how 'organized sports' has become more important than our founding principles?

Lawmanjed, hasn't gotten it so far, but I still have hope for him.

He called me out for my VERY FIRST post on this thread praising the individual Team Members for their right to make a decision. THERE HAD BEEN NO POSTS about collectivism when he placed a label on me in his later post.

You, Base1aransas wrote... and I quote...

"Wow

Respect for humanity trumping team collectivism?

What a concept. The National Department of Education arm in the district will be reprimanded."

I, Lawmanjed, responded to that comment by you, by writing... and I quote...

"Football is collectivism now?

It is actually the whack job liberals in the government that want Americans to be wussy hippies and play soccer instead of football.
(I actually really enjoy watching USA World Cup Soccer... but I'm being dramatic to make my point more vivid;)

It is the collectivists that are systematically, through the federal education system, trying to phase out football, physicality, competition, & aggression, etc...

Football promotes individualism within 'the collective' aka the team. I would say it promotes unity, while at the same time it promotes diversity, versatility and individuality. You have big fat powerful guys, small quick guys, tall lanky guys, and guys in between. You can be '6"7 350lbs., or '5"5 170, or '6"0 225lbs, etc. You have multiple different skill sets, a different skill set for every position. Everyone is needed. Anyone can aspire to play football. You do your very best to compete, you stand out as an individual, and you help out your team. The emphasis is put on team, because it is about giving, sharing, and sacrificing for others. Not being selfish. And it is a game. Don't forget. It is not forcing anyone to do something they don't want to, like government.

Besides, only skinny kids can play soccer."

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Take it personal and freak out if you wish. But don't try to claim you didn't bring up collectivism, Base1annoyingass. You did. Everyone can see that for themselves, plain as day.
And your obnoxious obsession and stalking of myself and others on DP is not only unhealthy, but actually pathetic. Good for a laugh, but mostly destructive. And it's your own credibility that's destroyed more than anything. Grow up. God bless.

PEOPLE OPPOSING TYRANNY - Real Grass Roots!
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Thanks Lawmanjed

No, it is NOT the Liberals.

It is people calling out the kids that made a decision with their own mind.

You Sir are the Collectivist judging these kids decisions with your brainwashed mentality.

As I said in an earlier post, I played football and understand it's value and I did so when the Blacks came to my school.

You are a racist and a collectivist. And only respect Authority.

I Sir, respect humanity. And I don't look at one white or black differently for WHATEVER TEAM they played on.

You sir, are full of labels but little humanity.

Ever heard of Jesus? His message isn't one of hate.

You need professional psychological help...

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PEOPLE OPPOSING TYRANNY - Real Grass Roots!
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Thank you Lawman,

I would love to hear what you recomend.

I'm in Texas, can you give an office you think stands for the truth?

Maybe a an old Comanche medicine man...?

Or a Voo Doo witch doctor...?

Maybe go to Church and pray....

You're going to need a miracle worker.

PEOPLE OPPOSING TYRANNY - Real Grass Roots!
Are you a POT or a PET - Person Embracing Tyranny?

It's a violent game

Why condone it? This is not the first death and it won't be the last.
Throwing a ball around for what? Sheesh.

Keepin' it real.

You don't believe in Liberty

You don't believe in Liberty for another person to choose what he wants to do no matter how dangerous it is?

Now I know,

Why people HATED me when I bought my sailboat

Now I know why people came around the docks on weekends asking me while I was working on my OWN boat, asking things like. Does the owner come down often?

Now I know, and the trolls will NEVER KNOW.

I represented what they hate. I didn't play the game.

The only way to win, is not to play. I'm 60

The only reason I'm here to to tell you this. ;)

I don't NEED DP, I'm here to help people that GET IT.

"Giving up and quitting" is good...

...if you are giving up on and quitting something that has become a tool to keep you from maturing and learning about the real issues of life.

I used to love sports, but since I got engaged in the battle for liberty, I couldn't care any less. Our kids are being drugged with sports till they end up sitting around television drinking beer and watching other dumbbunnies go through the same brainwashing and motivation we went through that teaches them to "be part of the team" - the government approved team!

I quit that team.

It's glorified herding, and yes, collectivism.

Freedom is the ability to do what you want to do.
Liberty is the ability to do what you ought to do.
"Where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty." 2 Corinthians 3:17

I still love sports,

but I would rather be around any sandlot football game, rather than attending or watching the BS that is passed on as 'sports' on TV with all of the drug addicts.

Some months ago, a bunch of kids found a place that was vacant (former home lot) on a seawall. The place was full of concrete with (as they saw it) hills and bumps and a great place to ride their bikes.

I used to LOVE it when I walked my dog past there and the 'group' was there doing their bike tricks. I spoke with them from time to time, just small talk about bikes and dogs and such.

One day, I saw one of them at a convenience store and said I was glad to see him again, and ask why weren't they haven't been around. He said they were accused of Trespassing. I explained the Trespassing laws in TX, in detail. And they came back. For about a month. Then the state came down on them, police the whole nine yards. The 'property' is owned by somebody in Mary Land, and gathered enough support from 'Law Enforcement' to keep these kids away. EVEN THOUGH he is never here.

That is what THEIR America looks like.

I don't know if they are going to play football, and I don't care, but I know collectivism when I see it.

And if anybody doesn't think American Sports have been collectivised.

They are part of the problem.

Good for them

Sports is just part of the bread and circuses.

Liberty and personal responsibility for providing for yourself and family, and protecting yourself and family, and being a good neighbor is what life is all about.

Freedom is the ability to do what you want to do.
Liberty is the ability to do what you ought to do.
"Where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty." 2 Corinthians 3:17

The politest way I can put this is...

What a load.

I disagree with the idea that this is a 'positive' story.

I mean it is basically advocating for quitting in the face of adversity, and/or tragedy, in the name of pacifism, and safety.

YOU MAY AS WELL SUPPORT GIVING UP OUR GUNS AFTER SOMEONE ACCIDENTALY GETS SHOT! It is the same concept.

Football is great America pastime and the rules changes and equipment are only making things safer, along with better medical technology and awareness regarding sports related injuries.

Yes parents and coaches can take it too far. I had an a-hole cop coach in high school. That should be kept in check by responsible coaches, parents, kids, faculty, community, etc. But giving up altogether is never a good idea.

Tragedies are just that, but teachings kids to give up in life is a poor lesson to teach them.

PEOPLE OPPOSING TYRANNY - Real Grass Roots!
Are you a POT or a PET - Person Embracing Tyranny?

Your position

Your position was true at one time... but no more. Back in the day sports had their place as entertainment and a way to stay fit, but modern team sports are just over the top (TV 24/7, modern bread and circuses), and put much too high on a pedestal.

Baseball for example was much more enjoyable back when there was one game a week on TV (the Game of the Week), and if you wanted to see your home team in action, you actually went to the ball park. The rest of the time it was radio, which fostered imagination like no wiz-bang modern CGI Tell-Lie-Vision production could ever do.

I also find it funny that you equate it to self defense, when modern team sports are pushed PRECISELY to channel the tribal instinct for self preservation into something that is essentially meaningless in the larger picture.

agree 100%

agree 100%

Mr. Polite

I suggest you being polite and responding to your original post to me on this thread.

Lawmanjed

You are a PRINCE! ;)

True, maybe

they can spend the rest of the year crying. I'm sure their deceased friend would be so proud of them quitting because of a freak accident.

"Endless money forms the sinews of war." - Cicero, www.freedomshift.blogspot.com

And Vietnam was for patriots right?

When I was faced with going to Vietnam a buddy invited me to go with him to apply for the Air National Guard. I did all the paperwork, took the exam and physical and waited.
Then they had a lottery system to determine who would go to Nam.

My number came out at like 330 (the highest was 365 - the number of days in the year) so I basically decided not to go into the military.

That process of applying and waiting gave me time to see that Vietnam wasn't a good thing. It was a criminal endeavor.
And I was spared a s-h-i-t-t-y life, unlike a lot of my friends who either came back f-u-c-k-e-d up or died.

No. .. Huh? Wait...what?

WTF does Vietnam or the draft have to do with high school football, and/or high schoolers quitting football for the season because their teammate died?

Quite a stretch to justify your stance on this one...

PEOPLE OPPOSING TYRANNY - Real Grass Roots!
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Bump for common sense

I absolutely agree.

Playing Football in high school is not Collectivism.

But people that defend 'ANY' institution over the right of a team of young men that make personal decisions of how to proceed after an 'event' we any know from the 'knews', is in my mind trying to destroy the very concept of this board.

I replied to LawmanJed below.

One paralyzed, two concussions and a compound fracture.

By the third game of my sophomore year our quarterback broke his leg, myself and another guy had brain concussions and a lineman was paralyzed from the neck down for a couple of months from a neck injury and then wore a brace to school for the rest of the year.

The Moms will kill football.
Liberals will kill the Boy Scouts of America.

Boys are all growing up to be gutless sensitive gamer pussies with no self respect or confidence.

"Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of liberty" TJ

So, I participated in high

So, I participated in high school sports. I am an Eagle Scout. And yet I certainly played lots of video games as well (graduated in 2001, every one did by then). Hell I was in a Marine ROTC in high school where we had other students shouting in our faces and ordering us hundreds of push-ups when we messed up during drill.

That said, it was my choice of what I wanted to do with my youth. My brother joined scouts and ROTC behind me and felt like some of the hazing type activities newer members endured were BS and decided to follow other interests. He's no pussy for leaving and I'm no Superman for enduring. We all make our decisions.

I've got some little ones of my own now. A girl and 2 boys all under 4. I do want them to face some adversity; but concussions, paralysis, compound fractures? No thanks, I'll avoid that if at all possible. I mean if they are dying to play football or fight MMA or whatever, maybe so. But if they think concussions, paralysis, and death are too much for high school activities, I'll probably call them intelligent instead of pussies.

Something bad happens - just give up and quit.

That's supposed to be good?