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Michael

I looked for a way to contact you behind the scene to ask this question and unable to find one….so I am asking in the open.

It appears that my ability to reply under the thread “I agree with Granger” has been suspended or revoked……Am I mistaken?




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Hi Goldspan, glad I found you.

You asked for a definition of political Zionism.
It's a really touchy subject with many different angles and agendas, depending on whose view the definition is coming from.
The following link seems to be pretty straight down the middle.
http://www.zionism-israel.com/dic/Political_Zionism.htm.

Thank you Jill

I would really like to discuss this further with you, but the topic is been decreed as off limits unless you live in Israel.

If you want to contact me behind the scene, by all means feel free.

I want to respect the wishes of the Mayor.

Zionism doesn't come from Israel,

and isn't about Israel, although Israel is the tool that is being used to drive Zionism.
Political Zionism and Israel don't even have to be mentioned in the breath, as they are not mutually exclusive to each other.
Political Zionism has far more clout in the US than the Middle East, although it is the residents of the ME that suffer the most through PZ's policies.
To shut down discussion about PZ is short sighted, as it is the very thing that is destroying the USA. Political Zionism isn't a wolf in sheeps clothing, it is Europeans morphing into Semites to bring about their own agenda, the destruction of Israel and control of Global Politics.

i would like respect the decree

but do not want tobe rude either. That is not the definition I was looking for. Zionism is a form of nationalism as a form of government….which I oppose weather it is here or there. There is an Arab nationalism movement…..which also been charged with atrocities. There was German nationalism with Bismarck …completed with Lincoln in Americn and violence of the Civil War.

http://www.ourjerusalem.com/history/story/is-the-talmud-anti...

True, Zionism started as a form of Nationalism,

but has since morphed into Globalism.
Why have one little country in the Middle East when you can have the Whole World?
Nothing stays the same, it ether withers and dies or grows and morphs.
I'm positive that if the Father of Zionism, Theodore Hertzel and Henry Kissinger where to have a discussion about their vision of Zionism, they would have very little common ground.

Jill please…this is the last post

I will make on this topic because I really wish to respect the wishes of the mayor. I will give you the last word.

Have you seen this video?

Have you read this?
The biblical Hebrews are symbolized by the Cain and Abel story, brothers who fell out with each other and whose lineage became the two factions we know as Jews and Arabs. But Jews and Arabs are both biologically Semitic people – they are cousins — and despite their “family feud, they are anciently related by blood and culture.
Later on, Jews and Arabs became even more seemingly disparate due to the introduction of Islam. One tribe kept their Judaism, while the other became Muslim, and there is what we’ve perceived as the warring factions of today.
But what has been purposely obscured is a third element that entered and has inflamed the Middle East ever since. It was European Jewish people who were brought in after WWII for the purpose of occupying much of Palestine and resurrecting the ancient name of Israel. This was a political agenda, not a humanitarian intention.
These Europeans had long ago emerged from Khazaria (southern Russia), where their king – for the purpose of greater, unified control – converted them to the Babylonian schools of Judaism in the 8th century. Thus, not only their DNA, but their perspectives are a different reality from the Judean teachings in Jesus’ world.
What we have in modern Israel, then, is an artificially created state dominated by Jews who have no geographic, genetic, nor spiritual connections to biblical Israel or the time of Jesus.

http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/tag/israel/

OF COURSE EVERYBODY IN THE WORLD KNOWS THIS TO BE THE TRUTH…WITHOUT DOUBT…PERIOD.

No one can underestimate the importance of Abraham to the three great monotheistic faiths of the world, but unlike Jews and Christians, Muslims claim their identity with Abraham through Hagar and Ishmael rather than through Sarah and Isaac. Muhammad sought to give legitimacy to Islam by identifying with Abraham and his other son, Ishmael. And this is the root of the alienation that exists between Christians and Muslims, both of whom claim to be the heirs of Abraham

So who made the video…..who tried to pass the lie of Cain and Able…..Yeah this guy is ….and this is so sweet…..one special kind of conspiracy kooks……or sorry Greenbacker……he admits he is a greenbacker.

And he proud proclaims the GEM!

Icke was a BBC television sports presenter and spokesman for the Green Party, when in 1990 a psychic told him that he was a healer who had been placed on Earth for a purpose, and that the spirit world was going to pass messages to him. In March 1991 he held a press conference to announce that he was a "Son of the Godhead" – a phrase he said later the media had misunderstood – and the following month told the BBC's Terry Wogan show that the world would soon be devastated by tidal waves and earthquakes. He said the show changed his life, turning him from a respected household name into someone who was laughed at whenever he appeared in public.

He continued nevertheless to develop his ideas, and in four books published over seven years – The Robots' Rebellion (1994), And the Truth Shall Set You Free (1995), The Biggest Secret (1999), and Children of the Matrix (2001) – set out a worldview that combined New-Age spiritualism with a denunciation of totalitarian trends in the modern world. At the heart of his theories lies the idea that a secret group of reptilian humanoids called the Babylonian Brotherhood controls humanity, and that many prominent figures are reptilian

REPPTILIAN HUMANOIDS……..MAN YOU JUST CAN’T MAKE THIS SHIT UP…..LOL…..LOL….LOL

Here is his site

http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/tag/israel/

every conspiracy under the sun…….at least two of the HATE ISRAEL crowd on this sire referenced this guy….are you…because your information sounds a lot alike this.

Don't "do" David Icke, nor much of the

Old Testament, with centuries of "lost in translation" re-workings and agendas.
However, the Foxes are firmly in charge of the henhouse....and that is now a forbidden topic, much like questioning certain events during WW2 is off topic in Germany, France, Austria.
Long live the 1st amendment, the right to question and hold to account the "leaders" of the USA, both seen and unseen. Just don't think of, or talk about, nor mention Political Zionism.... it makes some people uncomfortable and is to be ignored, and not open for discussion.
Ever seen Basil Fawlty's "Don't mention the War"?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfl6Lu3xQW0

Jill, you are well spoken

and I wholeheartedly agree with a surprising number of things you've shared here.

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LOL...Too funny!

LIke...Like....Like....hmmm only counts once...Like....Like...Like...Damn it...

Wha? .....hey....who stole my country?

Yep,

It's been coming for a long time.

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There is a proxy, propaganda war going on over Israel

Wouldn't thinking people here agree?

It is a pitched skirmish, with high stakes outcomes. But it is clearly a propaganda war.

I'm not interested in taking part in that.

I came to this realization recenctly, after seeing how it basically drove the Granger crazy.

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But frankly, I'm just not interested in the argument - the same way I'm not really interested in the NHL. It just doesn't appeal to me.

All art is only done by the individual. The individual is all you ever have, and all schools only serve to classify their members as failures. E.H.

You should check out the 'new' NHL...

I think you'll like it.

http://youtu.be/I7mekhFTrXM

I saw the best minds of my generation, destroyed by pandas starving hysterical naked

-Allen Ginsberg

I feel you Michael. I've

I feel you Michael. I've avoided commenting on the Israel bashing threads except here and there where I lose control of my keyboard. What is known is already known to many. Those Israel threads attract to many paid trolls like flies to honey anyway.

I agree

They need to be ignored.

Until they CAN'T be.

MFUcker Cornyn may have ignored them for a long time and I voted for him out of ignorance.

If that get's Goldspan/Granger's panties in a wad, ... it damn well should.

I even campained "not like I did for Ron Paul" but I did really try to promote the Republican Party. Back then.

Back then I thought I was standing up for America. I didn't know about Granger/Greenspan/Goldspan ;)

Only Greenspan was trying to delude people then. And he had it in the bag. Along with Cornyn.

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Yeah, I closed it down.

I got tired of looking at it.

Sorry.

I do that from time to time, and end up alienating people who think that I should be otherwise.

Anyway,

Things are how they are.

All art is only done by the individual. The individual is all you ever have, and all schools only serve to classify their members as failures. E.H.

an advantage of being the Mayor

That’s the beauty of Liberty……if I don’t like it...I can vote with my feet, unless you live in The United State of America….or I can stick around to try and make it a better place to live. I will choose the ladder.

"I will choose the ladder."

http://www.dailywritingtips.com/latter-not-ladder/

EDIT: I thought best to post the Message as well. This is only a partial list Goldspan, you might benefit by actually exploring the link.

Latter and Ladder, how are they different?

One difference is that of pronunciation:

latter [lăt'ər]
ladder[lăd'ər]

In ordinary speech, however, the difference between the t and d sounds is often difficult to discern.

Apparently other speakers are puzzled by the word latter. Here’s a question asked and answered at Yahoo Answers:

Why do people use the phrase “I choose the ladder” after comparing two decisions or choices?

And here’s the “best answer as chosen by voters”:

Oh most people who say that are social climbers and they want to get to the top.

In the expression that refers to making a choice between two options, the word is latter, not ladder. The first option is called the former:

Father gave us our choice of the blue Mustang or the red Corvette. I chose the former and Charlie chose the latter.

The word latter comes from the comparative form of Old English laet: laetra, and meant “slower.” It took on the meaning of “second of two” in the 1550s. Modern later came, well, later. (It also comes from OE laet.)

stepping it up

This is grade school stuff.... picking on this guy for a typo...

And ONLY because he is not anti-you know what.

PEOPLE OPPOSING TYRANNY - Real Grass Roots!
Are you a POT or a PET - Person Embracing Tyranny?

Reality... [to the tune of "Banks of the Old Bandera"]

You can hear the screen door slammin'
Hey let's run a foot race to the creek
Where you can see clear down to the bottom
And deeper...
Depending on where you stand
How you look and what you want to see

Goldspan gave me a thanks and laughed.
That made me laugh too. :D

Thanks

lol

FO worn

Do you need me to translate

FO worn?

Did you mean 'worm'? You used it previously, or did they change the spelling in WIKI?

I'm pretty much done with this Goldspan.

And I've lived around gaters for a long time. Very few of them are really vicious though they do hiss and shit, but when one becomes obviously acting outside of NATURE, and shows NO RESPECT for NATURES LAWS. They have to accept the responsibility of their deeds.

i noticed you posted the ladder comment pretty quick

you been cutting and pasteing from Wiki again?

Read the LINK IDIOT.

It doesn't have anything to do with WIKI.

You are starting to look more like The Granger all the time.

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The other advantage of being the Mayor is the ability

to spontaneously make new laws, with a few keystrokes.

I have created a new law: The only people who are allowed to talk about Israel on here are people who live in Israel (and that must be proven to me to my satisfaction).

This is a new and special rule, promulgated by the Mayor of the Daily Paul, Michael Nystrom.

Thank you. And thanks for sticking around.

All art is only done by the individual. The individual is all you ever have, and all schools only serve to classify their members as failures. E.H.

About time.

Thank you and God Bless.

Michael, you must revisit this decision, or at least

make it universal.

No talk about the effect of Zionism on American politics unless you live in Israel? Seriously?

Now let's make that fair for everyone. No talk about Obama unless you can prove you know him personally. No criticism of America unless you live there, and can prove it. Since this site is dedicated to Restoring the Constitutional Government of the United States of America, anyone not living in the US must now stop posting entirely.

Many of us are even more concerned about domestic threats to our republic than foreign ones, as the former are much more deadly. Our forefathers have repeatedly warned about this. And because of well known rampant legislative and media infiltration by a usurper COUNTRY THAT SHALL NOT BE NAMED, we have a situation that looks rather hopeless, now that the DP itself is running cover for it.

I can understand those having cultural or religious sentiment TO THAT COUNTRY wanting all criticism of THAT COUNTRY to be factual and civil, but to censor all discussion of it because you personally find it boring?

To what or to whom do you declare your allegiance, Micheal? Do you defend your country against ALL threats, or just a hand picked few of them that you personally find not "boring"? Just askin'.

I'm glad you've had some thoughts about how to measure the success of the Daily Paul. I would suggest if it helps to "Restore the Constitutional Government of the United States of America" it's proper subject matter if presented civilly and with supporting references. Who could disagree with that, except our resident disinformation agents? You know we've got a few of those. No self-respecting patriot site would be without them, you know.

Oh, and no criticism of the current administration unless you can produce your membership card for the Democratic Party. That'll stop all this annoying bickering, and we can get back to talks of Love and Shiny Things. Despite some differences of opinion, I Love You Michael, you've done so much, and I really want you to think about this.

You've rebranded it Peace-Gold-Love. Are we supposed to segue away from anything controversial or political? How are we to restore our American Republic without focused and detailed assessment of things that threaten the safety and sovereignty of our nation?

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OH MAN.......it feel freat to be a proud citizen of DPville

I nominate Michael for another term....hell for life...no shit....

BY THE DECREED OF THE MAYOR NO MORE ISRAEL TALK
Hey Mike….pssssst…can you get rid of Base1 too…..he not ging to have anything to talk about anyways.....I know a pond with alligators in it…..we can dump the body there.