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The downplay of Rand Paul has already begun...

http://washingtonexaminer.com/39-of-gop-now-very-conservativ...

According to a new PPP poll, which has Sen. Ted Cruz the top choice for the 2016 Republican nomination, those who describe themselves as “very conservative” make up 39 percent of the splintered party. Add in those who consider themselves “somewhat conservative,” and the right-leaning voters comprise 76 percent of the party.

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His likely rival, New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, wins just 4 percent of the “very conservative crowd” and 38 percent of the “very liberal” group.

The overall results of the presidential preference poll:

-- Texas Sen. Ted Cruz: 20 percent.

-- Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul: 17 percent.

-- New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie: 14 percent.
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Isn't it amazing how Christie is the "likely rival" whereas that nameless person who polls at #2 isn't mentioned in the article?



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the gop establishment will

the gop establishment will never let rand paulwin it, but no need to downplay rand paul. Rand has lost me as adelegate already pandering to the right wingers.

I expect the gop to run as usual. Rand paul is just bait for the establishment to eat up.

Rand Paul alone has dissapointed me to the point of not being a delegate anymore. So if dp wants to lay the blame on the gop est instead of rand himself by all means enjoy the next game. I lay blame on both.

Ron Paul 2016

he looks like the same guy

he looks like the same guy that Rand defeated in the primary

he's from CANADA

he's from CANADA

I would NEVER vote

for another NeoCon, including Cruz !

Ron Swanson

Here's who's going to win the Republican Primary!

It'll be the guy who talks like a conservative Republican and pushes the other candidates out of the way, but then drops the ball just in time to deliver the election to Hillary and the Gang.

Just Like Last Time.

Prove me wrong.

God, I wish someone could prove to me that we have fair elections. How many of us trust the voting machines these days? I wish I could, I'd sleep much better.

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“The final test of a leader is that he leaves behind him in other men the conviction and will to carry on.”
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it is up to you.

Magic marker and poster board. Post a sign on a busy street stating a date and time at a local restaurant.

Print material and bring it along.

While you are talking and sipping a coke or coffee, urge others to take empty committee seats. You can take one too.

Repeat once per week or twice per month. Word travels fast :-)

Oh yeah.. if somebody has writing skills, ask they would submit an article to your local news paper. Local news will soak it up, they are ALWAYS looking for something to print other than accidents and obituaries.

"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul

Upvoted.

Helpful, inspiring ideas. Thank you, ProudAmericanFirst.

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It's too early

also, PPP is hardly unbiased.
Here is an open poll on the same subject, tracking, with geo-distribution:

http://xepolls.com#xpl84949387_24505119

People are too harsh on Cruz. Let's make a call based on what he does, not on some speculations. There is plenty of time and issues ahead to make a judgement. It should be like that no matter who is ellected, all the time.

This is an awful poll.

Even with Cruz in the media constantly right now, him and Rand only get 37% combined.
Christie, Bush, Rubio, and Ryan hit 45%.

You know just as well as I do that those 4 candidates will flock to one. Probably Christie. He is the only one of them that could deliver a home state win.

Probably not Christie

if you look at the details of the poll:
http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2013/PPP_Release_Nati...

a lot of Christie's support is from the somewhat liberal to very liberal demographic. Among the "very conservative" segment he's in a three-way tie for last with Walker and Santorum.

The liberal support Christie has could help him in a general election but it's not how you win a GOP primary. I predict he burns out early.

hell with cruz. His wife works for goldman sachs

so we know who's got him by the sach.

wth is this the Daily Cruz or the Daily Paul?

Cruz is useful only as a vote in the senate. You people on here promoting him or going ape over his "talk" are just encouraging bad behavior.

It was obviously a superficial attempt to duplicate the successes Rand Paul had in a filibuster, and to overshadow him by going twice as long. To add to that, there are real doubts that he even believes in doing what he says over the long run and over a broader range of issues.

And he's all hype. His talk sucks. He doesn't rely on steady reason, he relies on faux appeals to emotion to drive his policies. He relies on the rank and file to listen to that, and he relies on the rest of us to use the rank and file as a guide to the best choice.

Do not trust, and if you trust, trust Rand more (much more), and stop encouraging people to think of Ted as anything more than a male Sarah Palin. In fact, I am actually starting to like Sarah Palin, so think of Ted as a male 2008 Sarah Palin.

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male michelle bachman?

i'm thinking that's closer.

I could see Cruz turn into maverick and get dangerous, he is a cloak and dagger type personality... cloaking around in contradictory aspects and intentions but making a dagger out of an otherwise dull sword for the a la cartel

A true flower can not blossom without sunlight and a true man can not live without love.

I consider Cruz an ally on domestic issues.

I agree with him on Obamacare, I won't trash what he did when Rand would have done similar if Cruz didn't. I like that more and more senators/reps are being disruptive problems for the establishment.
They used to call Ron a kook. He was the only voice of reason for years in the house, made it easy to paint him as a lunatic.
Now as more and more voices of reason emerge the paint doesn't stick so well.

If Rand would have started the talk, and Cruz would have joined him, like the Rand filibuster, would he still consider him all hype?

new genetic disease?

new genetic disease found in Paul family. its calles blackoutiusmedias

Ya, but there is a cure

It's called benswann-antibiotic

yep

I heard the benswann-antibiotic is not only for the paul disease but also for ALL things regarding media...

Hah

It seems to be widespread, at least across the msm.

I've been a pretty harsh critic of Rand

this past year, but I have to say one thing positive about him: He's not bought. If he were, the powers that be would be pushing him like he was the next best thing since sliced bread.

I can't believe how shameless the presstitutes are. This is following the exact same pattern as it did with his father. Show a little initial excitement, then ignore, smear, ignore, smear, etc...

This time it's not going to work, though. If Rand knows what's good for him he'll drop the neocons on their asses and fully court the liberty vote. We are a force to be reckoned with.

we wont win

without convincing some of those neocons.

And the NeoCons have no

chance at all with out the Libertarians. Either there is a genuine Libertarian leaning candidate or the Repugnants loose again.

Ron Swanson

"If Rand knows what's good for him...

...he'll drop the neocons on their asses and fully court the liberty vote. We are a force to be reckoned with."

Damn Skippy! Part of the problems with 2012 Ron Paul campaign was that they left us out of the equation. They went all "pc" in the way they campaigned. The grassroots was beaten down and left as compost.