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Official DP Government Shutdown Thread

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By David Lightman and William Douglas | McClatchy Washington Bureau

WASHINGTON — Republicans rallied around a budget plan Saturday to keep the government open but delay the new health care law for a year, storming toward a showdown with Democrats that looked increasingly likely to shut down the government when the current fiscal year ends Monday night.

Republicans in the House of Representatives showed unusual unity Saturday in endorsing the plan, then took it to the full House for expected approval. Their proposal would keep the government funded through Dec. 15, delay the health care law, permanently repeal a 2.3 percent medical device tax that helps fund the health care plan and assure military personnel would be paid if the government shuts down.

The Senate is not scheduled to return to session until Monday afternoon, 10 hours before the fiscal year ends. Democrats who control the Senate said they wouldn’t negotiate or consider the House proposal, leaving no apparent path to compromise on either side in the waning hours before money runs out for many parts of the government not on automatic spending such as Social Security or considered essential such as the military.

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SteveMT's picture

What do you think? They take care of themselves first.

Believe it!

"The salaries of Congress members, like the president, come from a pool of mandatory funds and aren't subject to the whims of lawmakers. If a shutdown happens, their checks keep coming, no matter what."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/27/government-shutdown...

Conflict of interest constitutional amendment

Yeah, I know, just something else the ruling elites can ignore, but what the heck. I might as well say it.

A conflict of interest constitutional amendment so that government could not decide their duties, benefits or re-election procedures. These would all be decided by their bosses, the American people.

http://riseforliberty.com/ For May 17 Money Bomb!

Cyril's picture

Now that's weird. I can have *total faith* in that,

Believe it!

Now that's weird.

I can have total faith in that, without even the shade of a second thought about it.

HOW COME?

"Cyril" pronounced "see real". I code stuff.

http://Laissez-Faire.Me/Liberty

"To study and not think is a waste. To think and not study is dangerous." -- Confucius

Cyril's picture

"Government shut down"...

"Government shut down"...

If we could only get...

" G O V ' T

S T F U "

... just imagine the physical relief for your ears, nerves, and brain.

"Cyril" pronounced "see real". I code stuff.

http://Laissez-Faire.Me/Liberty

"To study and not think is a waste. To think and not study is dangerous." -- Confucius

HealthCare.Gov Has Form Errors LOL

The Healthcare.Gov website where you go to sign up, isn't working right! It has you select some secret questions with some drop-downs, well in both chrome and Internet Explorer either the drop-down does not drop down or there's nothing to select. LOL

Typical government incompetence.

SteveMT's picture

"Shut Happens"

It's 12:01am, do you know where your government is?
*WHITE HOUSE BUDGET OFFICE DIRECTS AGENCIES TO BEGIN SHUTDOWN
*U.S. GOVERNMENT SHUTS DOWN FOR FIRST TIME IN 17 YEARS

The last government shutdown lasted 21 days, from December 1996 to January 1997, and cost the administration of US President Bill Clinton cost an estimated $2 billion, according to the White House’s Office of Management and Budget.

S&P Futures are 1677, 10Y yield 2.65%, WTI $101.96, Gold $1329.00 - let's see where we open tomorrow...
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-09-30/shut-happens

Change the Locks

Government has now shut down. Let's call the locksmiths to change the locks.

"To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize." Voltaire

And throw away the keys!

It's time for the gravy train to leave town forever.

beephree

waiting for the "other shoe

waiting for the "other shoe to drop"

How can the people for LIBERTY

make a damn sound and make it aware that this is not wanted from half the population in America. Is it to unpopular for libertarians and conservatives and anyone who respects freedom of choice to organize and come together and say it's not morally right to force someone into this. What's next, what else do we need to buy because it's the law of the land. Anyone pissed enough to do something like UNITE millions and SPEAK OUT? Does anyone hear me out there?

kind people rock

Like an Occupy

movement with an actual stated purpose?

I guess I'm not thinking that, but maybe

national rallies at every Capitol throughout America, kind of like the 2nd Amendment rallies that happened. It would be neat to educate others on why we are opposed to the ACA, and that exposure could possibly happen through local news. People need to know this is not a left right thing, but a freedom thing, in my opinion. The occupy direction I'm not sure about, most individuals who are more interested in liberty and conservatism are working folks, but it seems like an opportunity for all classes of folks who understand these dangerous health insurance law implications to unite. If you don't want this regulation for the future of our country which will sink what is left of our economy, join together, bring granny and the kids, I can't think of a better time to act. I don't have enough popularity to make it happen which is why I'm here wondering if anyone else is thinking this. Thanks for your response, just throwing the idea out there.

kind people rock

THIS IS A PROPAGANDA WAR!

Now's the time for a "false flag" or game. Democrats have to make this seem like the end of the world, while also pretending it's not. Obama does this often, he'll come out and act like everything's fine and this means nothing that Obamacare's going to go on as planned and then in a few days - he'll start shutting things down to make it look worse than it is. The media will join him in this by finding ANYTHING - like an internet webcam monitoring a baby Panda being nursed by it's mother - that won't be funded because the evil Republicans hate Pandas! (Google that one, I'm serious..)

The GOP has to go on full on assault on TV to lay the blame at the hands of Reid and Obama because they won't negotiate! They must go on attack - the media is going to be against them every step of the way on this so they have to launch a full on assault!

Right. Before I turned it off

Right. Before I turned it off I heard him babble that this government shutdown would hurt children and women and vets. I was certain he would say puppies, next, so I shut it off.

There should be a list of every business and organization

against this tyrannical legislation in order to help boost it's unpopularity.

kind people rock

egapele's picture

Uncle Sam

He's a screwed up guy.

Gives money to the f**k ups in the family and gives a wink and nod to the ones lining his pocket.

700,000 people on the gravy train

might actually have to go do something productive and do something that actually contributes to the world. Maybe they should try growing or making something and sweating with some real labor like the rest of us that support their screwed up system.

beephree

Linda Cross's picture

I keep thinking I should withdraw my bank account,

and prepare to shelter in place without electric power.

The local news compared a government shutdown to Halloween, I guess their point was that we should all be very afraid, but it somehow seemed childish.

Wedged between the fear mongering of how awful a government shutdown could be, and the new poll report that "64% of Americans believe the Republicans are being childish" they managed to do a special on how to sign up for ObamaCare. "But, you must wait for tomorrow to find out how much it will cost...."

If you see something, say something, the government is listening.
Silence isn't golden, it's yellow.

The only thing this BrewHaHa serves

Is in education for people that care to learn how corrupt their government has become.

Were it not for a few new members speaking, it would be of NO USE AT ALL and wouldn't have my attention.

If the government

is going to shut down, I will need to hurry up and prepare for the economic boom we are about to experience.

"Endless money forms the sinews of war." - Cicero, www.freedomshift.blogspot.com

Having watched coverage

It seems that multiple speakers are simply rehashing what they've been saying all day. Emphasis appears to be on how a shutdown "hurts America" and "will harm families".

My favorite parts are when they contradict themselves or one another, which has been going on for a while. It's like they don't even listen to what they're saying "it's the Republicans' fault!" "we need to work together, on a bipartisan basis".

I can only roll my eyes so hard.

Bachman on Greta just

Bachman on Greta just suggested the house pass the bill in full...that is without the wavers. I think that's a great idea!

Muh Roads!

Who's gonna build MUH ROADSSS?!?!

WHo gona tehech mi kidds at

WHo gona tehech mi kidds at mi locol publick schhol

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I feel like its New Years Eve

I feel like its New Years Eve 1999 again.

Close the doors and board the windows

Until government is a mere ghost of itself, a memory of deficits past.

Question

What if the House sent a bill negating any and all exemptions and all delays that President Obama has granted to the various groups along with funding for Obamcare.

Would the Senate pass it?

If not, that would be a hell of a propaganda win for the House.

meekandmild's picture

let the government shutdown

Its not working so shut it down.