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I just went crazy and bought a domain name, help me decide what to do with it

So I just bought (update: just got to accompany it) because I was feeling crappy about the state of things and tired of feeling powerless. I want to do something about it.

I already made a logo and I have a general idea of what I want to do. But I would really love some input from you guys.

Logo for Freedom in our Lifetime!

So, basically, I'm going to try to attract both sides of the aisle. I'm going to post a bunch of stuff myself, and I plan on going to local events and rallies as much as I can to get good footage and interviews with people of various opinions on various issues. The plan is not just to upload raw footage, but to create semi-high production quality pieces that can inform and hopefully inspire.

The goal, of course, is to promote liberty. I think I will also open the community up for others to post in, somewhat like DP (though I don't want to steal any thunder from this freaking amazing site).

Anyway, I'm basically looking for topics that would be ideal to cover.

My first event will most likely be a pro-peace rally called HANDS OFF SYRIA which will happen on October 7th in Salt Lake City, Utah. I'm going to go get some footage of the protesters and get their reasoning, as well as scope out if there's any opposition to see what they think, or possible police infringing on peoples' rights. I think there will be a lot of liberals there so I might bring up ObamaCare/socialism in general as well.

What should I cover after that? And any other ideas for things I could do with the website that would be useful to the liberty community?

Icon for Freedom in our Lifetime!

Thanks in advance!

Update - Just finished a mockup for the web page. Let me know what you think. (Click for bigger version)

Update 2 - New version (continued updates below, current is candidate the large one)

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Positive Approach

If it were my website then I would try and fill it with positive articles about how people chose to live as free as they can. Some people get really turned off by the whiny-doom-gloom attitude that can be found on most sites.

For example, have a few articles on homesteading, or mini cabins, or ex-patriots. Homeschooling is another subject...

You may have a hard time tracking liberty events throughout the country but you can make a focus. If your first event is in Utah then do you think that you could cover more on that state? One strategy is to expand your key audience gradually as you have the resources to make the content more relevant.

For Utah events, issues, check these guys out.

During your quest for happiness don't forget to take a few breaks along the way and just be happy :)

Am I wrong or..

Domain names are merely leased. Unless I've missed something, it is not possible to actually purchase one. Granted, you can pay money to whomever has the current lease on your desired domain name but, even then, you're not actually purchasing the domain name, you're paying the other party to release his or her lease to you.

Does that sound a little bit like "You have no idea what the word you just used even means, do you?" to you?

For those of you that are thinking "what a jerk for pointing this out". EXACTLY! It IS a jerk that does something like this. That's what I'm trying to make the OP realize as a result of a couple of his asinine comments in one of my posts.

So, to be clear, under normal circumstances, I would NEVER have commented on this error because it's just plain silly to take the time to criticize a simple mistake. It does not add anything to the discussion and only serves to create conflict where it should not exist.

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I voted you up for...

making strong points.

Even if they might not be completely correct.

its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
Rockin' the FREE world in Tennessee since 1957!
9/11 Truth.

Thank you

Of course, my comment was more about making a point about "jerk" comments and less about the whole purchase vs. lease debate. I actually do not care one way or the other what people think with regard to the acquisition and use of domain names. I only chose this thread to comment on because it gave me the opportunity to make a completely stupid point that only serves to create conflict unnecessarily while distracting from the main concepts.

Interestingly enough, it seems that there are some that are missing my point and wanting to argue about the nonsense issue that I brought up. Good grief...

You are wrong actually...

Domains aren't leased, they're purchased and registered. Not all domain names are owned already. For instance, I doubt that is registered. Any random series of letters can be registered too. could be a domain name. All the possible character combinations you can think of, words or otherwise, can be a domain name.

There's a central organization called ICANN that is responsible for maintaining a database of unique domain names. No two people can have the same domain name because of how the internet works, specifically DNS.

When you register a domain name with a domain name registrar, GoDaddy, Network Solutions, etc... they have an agreement with ICANN that makes your registered domain name officially yours. You can then publish web services to it, such as a website, email, VPN, ftp.... or just sell it to whomever wants to buy it.


No, I am not wrong. ICANN does not sell domain names. The domain name that you register is yours as long as you pay the lease fee (yearly fee). If you fail to pay the lease, you lose the domain.

If you "purchased" a domain name, it would be yours forever. Because you are only paying for the right to use the domain for a fixed period of time (with the right to renew), it would be a "lease".

It's amusing how you toss in a bunch of words, terms and acronyms like "DNS", "VPN", "FTP", etc. given that much of it has nothing directly to do with my comments but were only added, I suspect, to, in your mind, make you sound smart.

I am well aware of how DNS works as well as the suite of protocols called "TCP/IP" and everything else you gratuitously tossed in. I've worked with and taught this stuff since the mid-90s as a Microsoft Certified Trainer, MCSE, MCSD and MCDBA and I have a bachelor's degree in Information Technology (summa cum laude) from Barry University in Miami, Fl.


You do not lease the domain name, unless you have some agreement with the owner. If you registered it, it is your property. It is not the property of anyone else. Your registrar nor ICANN can tell you what to do with it. A fee is not rent. They're just not the same things.

And I used those words to explain to you how this works. Since you started the post as a self-proclaimed ass, you're now trying to turn it on me.


Your telling me that, for a ONE TIME FEE, the domain is mine for life and that the world of DNS servers would always resolve the domain to an IP address of my choosing (as well as all of the hosts under my domain and their DNS entries)? That would describe actual ownership (i.e. purchasing = owning). Or, is it an annual fee that must be paid and, should that fee not be paid, use of the domain would be forfeited? If it's the latter, I'm pretty sure that most people would describe that as a "lease"...

Note: DNS and domain/host name resolution is slightly more complicated that what I elude to above - I just wanted to keep it simple to focus on the main topic. Before anyone tries to correct me or educated me on how name resolution works on the internet, don't bother - I know how it works and really don't need the "education"...

The fee is...

The fee is to keep it registered. Think of it as perishable.

You're a bit slow

You're a bit slow aren't you boy?

dude, what a loser

I'm going to just pity you "boy". (little boy)

I did just think of a good way to explain it to you. Grown ups (or people who aren't so old they still talk about MCSE's) sometimes own homes. Sometimes they have to pay homeowners association fees. They still own the home. Think of ICANN like a homeowners association boy.


It is almost painful reading your posts. They certainly get worse as you continue this goofy argument. Just when I thought you could not post something more stupid, you come back with that last marvel of jackassery...


Self proclaimed ass? That's funny. I did not proclaim to be an ass. I was making a point to show that the OP was acting like an ass by doing the same thing to him.

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Me, too.

Only one entry there now.

Be aware of frivolous lawsuits against you.

its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
Rockin' the FREE world in Tennessee since 1957!
9/11 Truth.

Update -- Website mockup

Can I get any feedback on the web mockup I just finished? You can see a full version here --

I'm not a big fan of the fonts

The fonts and the muted colors kind of lose my interest.

That said, I'm too lazy to do a website so the fact that you're not makes my input sorta monday morning quarterbacky.

It's okay, but

it doesn't really catch my eye, because it looks like a million other sites on the internet.

Don't get me wrong, not saying that your site should be all flashy and distracting, but the 'shades of blue' theme has been done to death, IMO. (Damn you, VBulletin and IPB!)

If I could offer a few poorly thought out suggestions, I'd say to spice up the background with some black (but not too much!), red, or even yellow-- colors that are eye-catching without being distracting. The white background against black text is comfortable to read, but maybe have thin, colored borders around the text squares, and could also be used as a way (in addition to tags) to quickly identify what 'type' of material is being posted (red border=urgent, blue border=positive news story, pink=cop story, etc.) Possibly have different (blended in) background pics for each section of the site.

I'm just sort of throwing out random ideas, and I'm not good with 2D design/art direction in general, so don't put any stock into my words. In fact, stop reading this. Now. RIGHT NOW.

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Thanks for the feedback :) I

Thanks for the feedback :)

I think the red/blue/white theme is done a lot because of the flag, but by the same token I do feel like it's appropriate and the only real way to convey a sense of patriotism with color.

That said, I definitely take your thoughts to heart as far as it not striking you. I've made a new version, and I've incorporated a bit of the theme that I had going on the social media pages... and changed the slogan accordingly.

It's not a big change, but I'm hoping it might be enough to set it "apart from the crowd" as your comment alluded to the need for :) May I have your thoughts on the new one?

sure thing

Logged back in to comment. "Just when I thought I was out...they pull me back in!"

The enlarged FioL logo looks better without the thick crimson border, and it fills that awkward gap of empty space, plus the background pic in the search bar helps it stand out. I also like how the 'popular' tab now matches the navigation banner. Though personally, I liked the mock1 motto better, but mock2's works as well. Then again, catchy mottoes tend to be short. Either one is fine though.

Did you lighten up the background a shade or two? Because I notice a bit more contrast between it and the banner-- it works IMO.

The 'tags' and 'share' parts still feel a bit naked to me, but at least the tags aren't barely noticeable pieces of text at the very bottom of the article-- something that the visually challenged (such as myself) can appreciate.

I don't know what I was thinking when I mentioned red and yellow before--- unless you plan on opening up a chain of fast food restaurants. ;)

edit: typo

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Cop Watch

Sorry for the spam, this is not a suggestion for your site, but rather an idea that I have

I have been wanting to put up a site, that can display a yearly/monthly calendar in the front-page. The calendar would render a heat map based on number of negative cop stories (police over-reach, infringing on rights, cops acting like goons) and positive cop stories (oath-keeps, cops minding their own business).

It would look much like the calendar heat-map view in Mac - - but have gradients go from bright-red (bad cops) to pleasant-green (good cops).

The idea is that the homepage should simply display this heat map, so that thousands of people can just check the home-page to get a feel if cops have been good or bad in the past few days. The good and bad cop news stories can be submitted by public and can be validated again by public voting. This will give a strong visual feedback on the nature of cops in America at a given slice of time.

The site will not worry about other issues such as liberty, or the fed or obamacare since its primary and only focus would be about visualizing the nature of cops. Eventually if I can get a few thousand people use this site to hope and steer cop attitude towards a positive nature then it would be a great success.

I'm a computer programmer by profession so coding this up shouldn't be a challenge, just finding the time to do it is difficult.

Informative thread

Thanks for all the comments.

"Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it." -- Joseph Goebbels

its kinda long

I love ur style but the name is a bit long. did u check for freedomforlife or libertyforlife, maybe throw a 4 in freedom4life? can u put a 4 in, i think u can.


Ok, I just bought

Ok, I just bought since it was on special for only $3 for the first year haha.

Um yeah you can have a

Um yeah you can have a number, but the numbers for words can throw off the search engines and also confuse people trying to get to your site so I like to avoid them.

You're right, it is kinda long, but I think the main presence is going to be on social networks so people will click the link rather than type it. Also it doesn't compare to one of my (really) old clients -- LOL

But you're right though, to make it easier I might buy or and redirect it.

Another Domain

I bought a couple domains as well. One approach is like yours (that domain is The other approach is something I'd like to throw out at you all. The domain is YOURE.SO (no ".com" or ".net")

The idea is to dedicate words to particular people in the world. For example: A page could be dedicated to Nancy Pelosi that is Youre.So/BatShitCrazy. A different page could be dedicated to Ron Paul like Youre.So/Heroic.

Anyway, I want to open it to anybody who wants a word of their own to dedicate to whomever they choose. Any word (or phrase) that you want is on the table.

I applaud your effort TelFiRE. Your site never has to become the next DP, or InfoWars, or anything like that. But, the more we flood the internet with sites that promote liberty, the better the odds are that we keep opening people's eyes. It has a domino effect, and will eventually turn the tides.

Could work but

Something to keep in mind is that the top level domain .SO is a country code top level domain for Somalia. This means that any domain under the .SO domain is generally thought of as being a site in, for, or about Somalia.

I've not checked but it may not even be possible for you to get a domain name registration under the .SO domain since your intended site will be hosted in and dedicated (primarily) to people in the United States.

I actually hope it doesn't,

I actually hope it doesn't, because I couldn't afford the bandwidth costs... lol

Yeah I saw your topic about that! I was trying to think of what I could put there. I can't believed you actually snatched up that domain! Surprised it wasn't taken!

Were you thinking those would be like min-sites dedicated to a specific topic, or would each one be a whole site unto itself? One thought that popped into my head was doing like, and then having it basically be just one article about what's wrong with America, with outbound links and such for more info.

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I appreciate the link and the

I appreciate the link and the consideration, but I gotta be honest, their VPS prices are super duper high. I currently pay $10 a month for better specs than their $40/mo plan, and if I wanted something to compare to their $60/mo plan it would be $20/mo. And they don't even have SSDs :/