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[246] Apartheid in Israel: Dispelling Myths of the Jewish State, NSA's Six Degrees of Implication

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Published on Sep 30, 2013

Abby Martin Breaks the Set on the NSA's Six Degrees of Implication, Israel Apartheid State, Seymour Hersh on Media Lapdogs and Bin Laden's Mythical Death, Erasing Memories and other Weird Science Innovations.

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EPISODE BREAKDOWN: On this episode of Breaking the Set, Abby Martin remarks on the latest NSA revelation, showing how the agency compiles charts on not only you, but your connections to friends, and friends of friends. Abby then speaks with Miko Peled, Israel peace activist and grandson of one of Israel's founding fathers about his book, 'The General's Son' which dispels the myths and misconceptions about the Jewish State, and the true nature of the Israeli occupation of Palestine. Abby then gives props to world renowned journalist Seymour Hersh, for calling out the abysmal failure of the corporate media in the US, saying that the MSM should fire 90 percent of its reporters and that "not one word" of the bin laden death narrative is true. BTS wraps up the show highlighting a few of the most breakthrough scientific discoveries including freezing light, memory erasing genes and 3D printers in space.

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Here's another good book

written by Jack Bernstein, giving the perspective from an American Jew who emmigrated to what he believed the 'Jewish homeland'. He can't be interviewed as he was killed several years ago by who many believe, the Mossad. http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/israel.htm

Documentary along the same lines.

"Roadmap to Apartheid"
http://www.hulu.com/watch/525957

Israel was the only country selling arms to South Africa during the embargo. SA was also getting advice from Israel on how to suppress certain groups of people and not be condemned by most of the world.

yeah, years ago,

I was actually kinda floored when I initially found out during my elementary school years that some of my distant Jewish family members and friends had multi-generational families in South Africa, during the height of Apartheid; I just assumed, considering history, it'd be abominable to live in a country where such institutional segregation was going on when the same happened to them pre-1944; insofar as in comparison to American segregation, they had no choice (people were born here), but those who immigrated to S. Africa fled TO S. Africa during the Apartheid era (granted, each family's situations vary, and it's never really clear black & white, and perhaps the circumstances of the alternative wasn't much better, from their POV).

Then again, I had Indian (as in India Indians) friends who also had families living in S. Africa, during the same period. Apparently S. Africans practiced a racist color gradation hierarchy among various races/vestiges of UK colonial-era.

Think that's when I began to truly question certain, more morally 'grayish' dynamics... still, the sense of historical hypocrisy was seared into my memory, for certain.

Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

Well, now they are restoring balance.

And killing off the Whites (genocide) in S.Africa, so no worries, right?

yes apparently

That's what I meant.

LOL

Um, NO.

but tell you what, why don't you introduce yourself to Spit'76 below and see who's better at answering your own questions that no one asked and pretend others did, then you can both compare notes on who is more kneejerk "anti-white" or "anti-semite" at the slightest hint of criticism against what each y'all deem to surpass your own private definition collectivist barometer of 'hate speech,' and leave all non-kneejerkers out of your Freudian-slippy projection semantics spin-fests, eh?

we cool? Good.

Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

well said

:)

Silk30

bumping for--

Miko.

it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--

really?

regarding the tracking of social interactions during the intro:
"since 2010"

HAHAHAHAHA!!!

I think,

"pre-2010, no...we meant pre-2008, no...no...we meant pre-2000, no...we meant pre-1996, no...we meant pre-1994, no...we meant pre-1988, no...we meant pre-1971, no...we meant pre-1963, no...we what we really really meant was pre-1947!!!"

- would've been waaaaaay too cumbersome xD

or worse, if they were truly being 'honest' (yup, a unicorn oxymoron: 'honest govt'), they'd say something like:

"ach, heck, no...we truly truly meant to say was pre-1863. Doh! no...we meant, no this time, what we really really really really meant to say was...178_.... oh heck, y'all got us: ever since before the Am. Rev. by the Crown and after, when we have any State, we're gonna rape semantics to twist 'common law' into 'legalizing'/'legitimizing'/rationalizing all and any surveillance apparatus and existent contemporary-tech against you."

I always assume, if a tech exists? it's not IF, but WHEN they're gonna use it to violate people's rights, as I've yet to see any govt ask itself: 'gee, how most efficiently, and morally do we truly protect our constituencies' rights?'

LOL...er.. .o/

sad state of affairs, eh?

Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

One statement that is

One statement that is incorrect is that Israel is only 50% is Jewish. It's actually 76%.

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/...

Other than that it seems on point.

If you disagree with me on anything you are not a real libertarian...

Israel annexed only east Jerusalem.

They have as occupied territories, not counted as citizens, the West Bank and Gaza. It would not be close to 50% Jewish if you also included dispossessed Palestinians in surrounding countries. Note for US evangelical Christian Zionists: Be aware that 7 to 10 % of those Arab Palestinians are Christians.

What would Jesus do?

Awesome - when there are more

Awesome - when there are more questions in a presidential debate regarding Israel than the American budget something is wrong.

Prof. Shlomo Sand's

book 'The Invention of the Jewish People' was on the Israeli Top Sellers list for 19wks, with no mention in the Zionist controlled US. http://inventionofthejewishpeople.com/

thanks for the link

I believe someone else here @DP posted several videos of him during the book's promotional tour.

cultural/identity politics being what it is, while it's unfortunate that all 'legitimate' criticism 'must arise' (realpolitik-'practically' speaking) WITHIN, that said group, for it not to be childishly, moronically, smeared as bigotry, racism, etc. but I'm so glad that internationally, for anyone paying attention, those of us who do, we all appreciate the existence of much more varied, spirited debate WITHIN Israel, as well as those outside of AIPAC-PsyOp-ed American sheeple political spheres of 'allowable' public discourse.

One day... just one day... perhaps we'll all get to see peace in that region...in our lifetime. Okay, um...so maybe that's too optimistic! lol; suppose that almost seems unicorn, considering the nature of their conflict and for how long they've been at it.

But, that said, the first thing 'we' can do, and prevent the Ruling Class from doing, is to NOT meddle in their affairs by intervening by arming and financing politically opportune factions...

be that as it may, some would say that Paul McCartney & The Beatles have done more to bring down the Soviets than any soft diplomatic or hard-line tacit military threat by State Dept/CIA/DoD/POTUS could've ever done.

Culture eats politics for breakfast, lunch, dinner, and every impulsive/compulsive and planned snacks in between xD

hopefully, someday...

Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

Really?

Obladi, Oblada.... "life goes on" (really?)

Translation from Russian:

Command, Control

To be clear, the translation is not just "command, control" it's an IMPERATIVE telling you to "Command! Control!"

That is the Russian translation. You can vote me down all you like, but it doesn't change the translation.

Huh? WTF?

WTF is up with your obsession and 'down voting?'

I'm no McCartney/Beatles-phile, but from what I understand "Obladi, Oblada....life goes on" was supposedly a reference to a phrase often said by Paul McCartney's Nigerian conga player, as his own personal vernacular equivalent of "c'est la vie" like: "Paul brah. yadi, yadi, yada, know how t'it is mon. such is life."

Think you need find yourself a different audience than me; which brings me to this: now, pay attention, Spit '76

I'm gonna put this very bluntly to you; I have not done this to anyone else but two, really rabid souls I've unfortunately had to express my displeasures to, here at DP, after they initiated the 'attack,' but even then, they never called me what YOU just wholly unsubstantiated, called me, in the following: http://www.dailypaul.com/300647#comment-3212278

I know that blows your neonazi mind and all the Aryan theories you have steeped yourself in over the years. For that, I'm sorry. But there's just no way around the hard scientific DNA data.

Seeing as how I've never called you names, other than apparently to inadvertently insult and set-off your insecure sensibilities (which the entire onus of managing it, is on you) when I merely cited studies done by someone else, not from some community college, but at the world renown medical school Johns Hopkins, I think it's pretty empirical who the wronged party is, and who the initiating offender is.

Regardless, listen up;

Dear Motherfcuker: you don't get to call me someone with "neonazi mind and all the Aryan theories" and pretend to 'make nice' or even talk past it, as if you never said that, without apologizing.

Nor, try to move forth without even trying to make a gesture to be courteous, because you're too lazy and daftly insensate to realize that I was actually spoon-feeding you URL to an actual study published in Oxford Journals by Dr. Eran Elhaik, an Israeli geneticist, working at Johns Hopkins' Bloomberg's own little lab countering the very flat-earth pre-Copernican "Rhine Valley origin" narrative you were spewing, because it's inconvenient to your irrational AIPAC-weekend-seminar-talking-points-juice-filled-dildo-fcuking 'mind.'

If you've ever read ANY of some 1100 nodes & 5500 comments I've written here, so far, you'd notice how preposterously 'she doth protests too much'-you come off, and how utterly vacuously moronic your accusations sound to me and to EVERYONE and ANYONE else here who is not a primate, who is literate, and have read or at least come across/perused even just a few among the thousands of my past posts, threads, replies and writings, along with numerous Daily Paul Front-Page posts.

I don't much care for you, so it's impossible to 'get hurt' because your words don't mean much, even less than you yourself, even though obviously people choose to resort to deploying kindergarten name-calling, when their intellect fails to properly convey their emotions, for the specific purpose of hoping to 'hurt' the feelings of those whom they deemed 'adversarial or antagonistic' to their seismically engorged insecure egos.

You want to know the thing though?

I'm not mad at ya, at all: I'm more SADdened and disappointed that someone, whose past comments that I have had the pleasure of reading, I'd agree with about 90% of the time, would reveal himself to be such a petulant buffoon, who lacks the ironic funnybone to realize how awesomely sad pitiful it is that you'd resort to a neoCon POS smear tactic befitting the height of their animosity toward Dr. Ron Paul for comments they disagreed with, because unlike them, the Doc could, like an adult, discern policy fact from propaganda fiction.

It's like who hasn't met a an asshole online?

But, it's just doubly sad and doubly pitiful that I had to meet one here at DailyPaul.

And, you know why I'm not writing this to you privately?

Because I want this on the record, and want everyone else here to know, what you do, when you become desperate, and intellectually challenged: you pull a RINO anti-Ron Paul-esque smear job straight out of SPLC Playbook.

Now, at this point, I'm not interested in engaging with you, in any manner. Even from your reply, and past replies, you're far more enamored with talking to yourself in the whirlwind of your delusions, anyway. So why would it be any different, either way?

Frankly, the schit you tried to smear me with, and directly alluded to, are irrevocably irresponsible, empty, and frankly unforgivable.

But seeing as how I don't hold a grudge, I will finish off with the proceeding, simple following:.

Kindly, Fcuk Off.

So that I can get back to conversing with my beloved r3VOL and other fine folks, here at the DailyPaul.

Don't bother: won't be replying.

With that, I bid you a big FU adieu, like forever.

Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

You're funny.

First, I'd like to point out that it is YOU who has turned this thread into the DPs anti-semitic two minute hate thread of the day. Now, onto the science:

Perhaps you missed where in the study it stated that the original Judeo-Khazars were JUDEAN (Palestine) in origin.

So, yes, it disagrees with your neonazi (or perhaps adopted from neonazi) irrational theories about Khazars not being "real" Jews.

Perhaps you also missed the part about european Jews being descendant from Israeli-Palestinian emigrees.

And that despite the differences between the two populations the genetic similarity between the two is still remarkable.

Further that Greco-Romans Jews, Mesopotamian Jews, and Judeans and Khazar Jews.

That the conclusions of the study needs to be cited WITH CAUTION due to it's crude methods used for assessment.

Lastly, NO HAPLOGROUP anaylsis was conducted.

Therefore "AnCap", the certainty with which you speak is not only not warranted, you betray your anti-semitic bias by citing a study whose conclusions both undermine your argument of Israelis not being "real Jews" but also by propogating completely false Aryan neonazi theories about who is a "real" Jews, as if you are some kind of expert.

Aw...you sad, sad, poor baby: boo boo they downvoted you again?

Forward.com: 'Jews a Race' Genetic Theory Comes Under Fierce Attack by DNA Expert
”It’s so obvious for me,” Sand told the journal. “Some people, historians and even scientists, turn a blind eye to the truth. Once, to say Jews were a race was anti-Semitic, now to say they’re not a race is anti-Semitic. It’s crazy how history plays with us.”

That's you, that Shlomo Sand, the history professor at Tel Aviv University, is referring to: except, you're not a historian, nor a scientist, nor even a pretend geneticist, you're just an AIPAC-sockpuppet quackademic. Be that as it may, I gladly oblige, in your AI-development of your binary Frankenstein.

There's no dispute as to whether Khazari-Jews were converts, not natively of Palestine. But, that, has NEVER been my point of contention: I've NEVER said that Khazari Jews weren't Jews. But that does not change the fact that they're NOT Judean!

WHY is that so hard for you to fathom??

YOU:

You're funny.

ME: I know, and you're not. xD

YOU:

First, I'd like to point out that it is YOU who has turned this thread into the DPs anti-semitic two minute hate thread of the day. Now, onto the science:

ME: First, I'd like to point out that it was YOU who turned this into a base self-yap-fest verbal diarrhea because you CHOSE to smear other DP members (not just me) by calling them "anti-semites," and "neonazis with Aryan theories," at mere sign of ideas contrary to your simpleton SPLC/AIPAC-seminar notes, just like some brainwashed Likudnik drone.

Now, onto deconstructing your pretense of knowledge and comprehension-averse illiteracy:

YOU:

Perhaps you missed where in the study it stated that the original Judeo-Khazars were JUDEAN (Palestine) in origin.

[...]

Perhaps you also missed the part about european Jews being descendant from Israeli-Palestinian emigrees.

And that despite the differences between the two populations the genetic similarity between the two is still remarkable.

Further that Greco-Romans Jews, Mesopotamian Jews, and Judeans and Khazar Jews.

ME: Are you really that historically, definitionally, geographically clueless??

"Jud-EO-" is a religious disposition identifier: it literally means "of, or related to Judaism."

What it does NOT automatically mean is, Jud-EAN: as in, FROM Judea, as in a NATIVE INHABITANT of Judea, aka. Palestine, as in the geographical boundary known as Palestine and those from that land, and apropos of Biblical discussion, more accurately: those who are FROM Palestine during Biblical times, NOT modern converts.

You can be a Catholic Convert in 13th Century China, but no one would call that new Chinese convert or his still alive progeny in the 21st century, a Chinese Catholic from Rome, Italy. They maybe Catholic, but they're not Roman.

Arguendo, frankly it would be the same even IF, being a Catholic were considered in the same vein of controversially synonymous label as both a race/culture and a religion, like the Jews are today: the said Chinese Roman Catholic Convert still would not be a Roman, though he/she certainly would be a Catholic.

Capice?

Wanna know what the text from the study, that you've never fully read nor understood, ACTUALLY states? Read, for the first time and find out, Mr. Pretender:
Page 2: http://gbe.oxfordjournals.org/content/early/2012/12/14/gbe.e...

Recent sequencing of modern Caucasus populations prompted us to revisit the Khazarian Hypothesis and compare it with the Rhineland Hypothesis. We applied a wide range of population genetic analyses to compare these two hypotheses. Our findings support the Khazarian Hypothesis and portray the European Jewish genome as a mosaic of Caucasus, European, and Semitic ancestries, thereby consolidating previous contradictory reports of Jewish ancestry. We further describe major difference among Caucasus populations explained by early presence of Judeans in the Southern and Central Caucasus. Our results have important implications on the demographic forces that shaped the genetic diversity in the Caucasus and medical studies.

As in, EUROPEAN, NOT JUDEAN. Capice? Also "Semitic ancestries" does not ONLY mean Palestinians (also Semites). But predominantly they're EUROPEAN, NOT JUDEAN. As he notes:

Contemporary Eastern European Jews comprise the largest ethno-religious aggregate of modern Jewish communities, accounting for nearly 90% of over 13 million Jews worldwide (UnitedJewish Communities 2003).

NINETY PERCENT, non-Judean origin. NINETY PERCENT. Capice?

Further more, those 90%, much of them are of Khazari origins. And, who were the Khazars?

The Khazars were a confederation of Slavic, Scythian,Hunnic-Bulgar, Iranian, Alans, and Turkish tribes who formed in the central-northern Caucasus one of most powerful empires during the late Iron Age and converted to Judaism in the 8th century CE (Figures 1-2) (Polak 1951; Brook 2006; Sand 2009).

CONVERTS from NON-Judean lineage, which now predominantly make up the 90% predominantly European, NON-Judean lineage.

Does that compute??

Page 4: http://gbe.oxfordjournals.org/content/early/2012/12/14/gbe.e...

The competing “Khazarian Hypothesis” considers Eastern European Jews to be the descendants of Khazars (Supplementary Note 1). The Khazars were a confederation of Slavic, Scythian,Hunnic-Bulgar, Iranian, Alans, and Turkish tribes who formed in the central-northern Caucasus one of most powerful empires during the late Iron Age and converted to Judaism in the 8th century CE (Figures 1-2) (Polak 1951; Brook 2006; Sand 2009). The Khazarian, Armenian, and Georgian populations forged from this amalgamation of tribes (Polak 1951) followed by relative isolation, differentiation, and genetic drift in situ (Balanovsky et al. 2011). Biblical and archeological records allude to active trade relationships between Proto-Judeans and Armeniansin the late centuries BCE (Polak 1951; Finkelstein and Silberman 2002), that likely resulted in a small scale admixture between these populations and a Judean presence in the Caucasus.

And where did the less than 10% Judean traces in the Caucasus MAY have occurred?

Biblical and archeological records allude to active trade relationships between Proto-Judeans and Armeniansin the late centuries BCE (Polak 1951; Finkelstein and Silberman 2002), that likely resulted in a small scale admixture between these populations and a Judean presence in the Caucasus.

Yes, people migrate, throughout history.

Arguendo, say hypothetically, Asian American community now make up 10% of the American population. If a genetic demographer were to examine the entire American population, based on that, would they then conclude that the entire Country's "predominantly Chinese" and Americans are from China?

Because, THAT, is the ASININELY preposterous 'logical' leap you're making, based on the above finding.

YOU:

That the conclusions of the study needs to be cited WITH CAUTION due to it's crude methods used for assessment.

ME: Um, and what part of your asinine 'logical' leap you made, is "cited with CAUTION," let alone assessed/analyzed properly?

We read the same thing, yet I read and you pretended to have read the same thing; you pre-concluded a-priori to FIT your already predisposed position to the new findings. Not, what the finding is ACTUALLY saying. Ya, friggin' rank amateur! LOL.

There's no dispute as to whether Khazari-Jews were converts, not natively of Palestine. But, that, has NEVER been my point of contention: I've NEVER said that Khazari Jews weren't Jews. But that does not change the fact that they're NOT Judean!

WHY is that so hard for you to fathom??

And, seeing how you're the one who replied to a post by me, the onus of understanding and rebutting WTF I'm talking about is ON YOU, NOT me.

So you can feign biitch and whine like as if I've been 'denying or disagreeing' with something I've never made a point of arguing;' all of this makes everything you've replied to me, utterly off point, moot, and frankly completely irrelevant.

Your conversational 'logic' leaves a lot to be desired.

Which makes me wonder, truly, have you read beyond page 2, out of the mere 37pages in that study??

YOU:

So, yes, it disagrees with your neonazi (or perhaps adopted from neonazi) irrational theories about Khazars not being "real" Jews.

LOL!!! STOP Projecting!

ME: The following was my very first reply to you, which you've apparently never read, nor bothered to understand where I was coming from, because some delusional asshole designated you to be knee-jerk 'anybody-Anti-AIPAC must be witch-hunted and purged! purged! I tell ya! purged!' Oh, right, that asshole would be you. LOL; ironically proving the reply title, why you don't read schit nor comprehend the very thing you think you're replying to:

Actually, NO: You didn't read it all, did you? xD LOL! 'tis okay
Submitted by AnCapMercenary on Sat, 09/28/2013 - 00:34. Permalink

But, my CORE pt. of my previous lengthy thread is that regardless of where, we're all simply human brothers and sisters who share about 99% same biology. So why fight? That, was the point. But to the specifics of where 'modern Jews' genetically hailed from? There's no doubt: they're Khazaris. But that's just a genetic fact. Who cares? It only matters politically in that area. Doesn't change who they are: TWO semites (both Jews and Palestinians) killing each other, literally over nothing, as more than any of us: they truly share the same blood.

referencing this previous reply, from another thread:

Well, guess it's not a simple topic; reading them in sections,
Submitted by AnCapMercenary on Sun, 09/15/2013 - 22:08. Permalink

2. Hypocrisy of the AIPAC/ADL/Likudnik/NeoCon/RINO chickenschit war-WHORES who love to predictably smear those who want a peaceful world as "anti-semites" when especially the target of their oppression, ARE in fact "Semites" themselves, by the virtue of their own shared genetic markers with their own blood-kin brethren: the Palestinians.
[...]
I go over the contentious intra-Isaeli, Jew-on-Jew geneticist debate over their own origins; recent scientifically peer-reviewed work that PROVES that at least, part of the theory that has long been dismissed as "conspiracy theory promoted by Holocaust deniers and 'anti-semites'": the Khazari origins of MODERN "Jews," has now been proven BY a JEWISH geneticist.

And of course, the AIPAC warWHOREs predictably went all ape-shiit.

Then I posted interviews, articles and counter arguments cited in MSM articles and science mags and blogs

And more recently:

actually, don't even need to do all that: if you really want to

Submitted by AnCapMercenary on Sat, 09/28/2013 - 00:23. Permalink

But, core point I tried to make in my previous thread was that, we're ALL the same human brothers and sisters; and more specifically, apropos of this discussion, if you get down to it, ALL Jews are genetic relatives of Palestinians: they're BOTH "semites."

It's literally brothers and sisters simply killing each other, all over Ruling Class propagandists' same old-same old program of 'divide and conquer' via tribal misunderstandings and a few cultural traits exploited as an ocean-wide 'differences,' when frankly, they literally share the same blood; from my previous thread:

But, Dr. Eran Elhaik summarizes my core point, much more eloquently:

“There is no Jewish genome and certainly no Jewish gene,” says the Israeli-born Elhaik. Instead, all humans are a mix of the same building blocks, built with slightly different architectures. “The confusion about European Jews results from their tragic history of persecutions and deportations, creating multiple links between ancestry and geography. By dismantling our notions of genetically distinct populations and understanding our kinship, we can better appreciate our common history, and more importantly, our shared future.“

I know you have some on going conspiracy delusion in your mind that's telling you that everyone but you, are all anti-semites who speak in 'codes,' but really, whyTF are you so insecurely paranoid?

YOU:

Lastly, NO HAPLOGROUP anaylsis was conducted.

ME: Um, seeing as how you haven't read past page 2, OF COURSE, you'd have no idea that, that was already covered; SNP test IS what confirms a haplogroup:

Page 6: http://gbe.oxfordjournals.org/content/early/2012/12/14/gbe.e...

Materials and Methods

Data collection. The complete data set contained 1,287 unrelated individuals of 8 Jewish and 74 non-Jewish populations genotyped over 531,315 autosomal single nucleotide polymorphisms (SNPs). An LD-pruned data set was created by removing one member of any pair of SNPs in strong LD (r^2>0.4) in windows of 200 SNPs (sliding the window by 25 SNPs at a time) using indep-pairwise in PLINK (Purcell et al. 2007). This yielded a total of 221,558 autosomal SNPs that were chosen for all autosomal analyses except the identical by descent analysis that utilized the complete data set. Both data sets were obtained from http://www.evolutsioon.ut.ee/MAIT/jew_data/ (Behar et al. 2010). MtDNA and Y-chromosomal data were obtained from previously published data sets as appear in Behar et al. (2010). These markers were chosen to match the phylogenetic level of resolution achieved in previously reported data sets and represent a diversified set of markers. A total of 11,392 samples were assembled for mtDNA (6,089) and Y-chromosomal (5,303) analyses from 27 populations (Tables S1-2).

Which brings me to this: Do you know ANYTHING about what you're talking about??

I know, it's confusing, when no one told you that just because you don't call rape, a rape, and keep calling it "involuntary consensual sex," it still doesn't make it so: when a girl says no, it really means no!

Even though you delude if you say something long enough, like alchemy, you stop becoming an anti-semite, who's merely 'she doth protests too much' projecting your own deeply seated insecurities:

YOU:

Posting info from AnCap's cited study gets downvoted, because the information runs contrary to the neonazi theory of who is a "real" Jew. Typical.

ME: Psfsffsssssst. LOL. Um, do you need a hug? Do you?

YOU:

Only goes to prove the point.

ME: Indeed, thanks for proving your idiocy, every time you QWERTY.

YOU:

And, yes, AnCap, I cited the very study that you did. Thank you for that source.

ME: Yes, and you've proven to me again, why you're either illiterate and lazy, or willfully both.

When in doubt, repeat it! Because when an AIPAC dildo fcuker calls you an Anti-Semite, even though you got semitic blood in your family, you MUST be anti-semitic, if you repeat enough! wee!

YOU:

Therefore "AnCap", the certainty with which you speak is not only not warranted, you betray your anti-semitic bias by citing a study whose conclusions both undermine your argument of Israelis not being "real Jews" but also by propogating completely false Aryan neonazi theories about who is a "real" Jews, as if you are some kind of expert.

ME: Difference between you and me?

I have no problem being wrong or not knowing something, as long as I make an effort to find out or correct my misunderstandings.

I've never said, stated, alluded to, nor inferred that I'm some geneticist by profession or by training. However, you are someone who cannot hide your insecurity: you biitch and whine about "downvoting" more than you took time to read the URL you were supposedly 'rebutting.' Not to mention, you're so desperate, you have to resort to name-calling kindergarten SPLC/AIPAC-training manual semantics, like every petulant child who wants to knock over his Lego set or MegaBlocks, out of frustration because you couldn't force fit a rectangular piece into a trianglular hole, an exercise designed for 2yr olds.

It's clear you're not gonna read this reply, nor apologize for peppering "neonazi"-this, "Aryan"-that, with as much glee as a neoCon POS dropping "9/11" for noun, verb, pronoun, and preposition.

So this reply, isn't really for you; again, I reluctatnly replied to put this on the record, to let others know, what a haphazardly vacuous irrational AIPAC-dildo fcuked sockpuppet you are. And, yes, they will down vote you again, and you'll biitch, whine and cry, and pretend it doesn't hurt your 'feelings.'

Now, in case you really didn't understand the meaning of the word, before, seeing as how you like having things repeated to you: kindly FU, like forever, again, but for good.

LOL. Achhch. WTF: as if it matters whether you read fully, reply, or talk to yourself, and answer your own questions as if I'm the one who asked those.

LOL

Seeing as how you're so fond of empty unsubstantiated smears...though, you definitely 'she doth protests too much', whatever; I'm gonna close with this: Just Bugger the fcuk off, ya irrational racist, anti-semite, Aryan, apartheidist AIPAC-whore sockpuppet!

XD

Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

You're own study said they were Judean in origin.

The study you cited in support of your neonazi position of Israelis not being "real" Jews stated that the Khazar Jews had a Judean origin and completely undermind your argument. So, what are you talking about?

Oh just making it up as you go along, I see.

Downvotes don't bother me. Getting downvoted by irrational people like you or by enemies of humanity like neonazis is a badge of honor!

But it still amazes me how people like you will downvote raw data like 1+1=2 because you don't "agree" with it or it contradicts the flat earth theories you believe in.

I know your comprehension skill sucks and there's no

way in hell you read that, especially when you're rebutting me in the possessive, moronically with a "you're" and not a "your."

Listen racist prick motherfcuker, if you're gonna attempt to verbally "P0wnz" someone while trying to lecture them on reading comprehension skills necessary to discern scientific info, perhaps it might be a good idea to demonstrate that at least, half your brains aren't missing, first. LOL ya primate.

Stop digging.

It's clear you have no idea WTF you'RE blabbing about.

Run along AIPAC-sockpuppet, you're not getting any smarter, just because you keep yapping.

IF you actually demonstrated that you had a modicum of an idea about the genetics, geographical, historical pretense you've been putting on, I'd entertain it, for sheer bemusement value, even if I disagreed with you.

But, at this point? Spit'76, you have as much credibility to me, as a pedophile.

Seriously. Bugger the fcuk off.

You don't even know the difference between "Judeo-" vs. "Judean," let alone patrilineal vs. matrilineal, or SNP in regards to halplogroups, nor single nucleotide polymorphism.

LOL. Yes ya arrogant, biitch: 'cause 'neoNazis' spend time writing about how we're all basically the same human family, no need for Jews and Palestinians to be killing each other when they're practically same blood brethren.

Motherfcuker, you don't get to call someone a neoNazi, when you're the racist prick, and get to play dumb. GTFO.

Go run along, Pre-Copernican racist, with pedophile-equivalent credibility.

Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

I'm merely citing the study you linked to.

It clearly stated the Khazari Jews were JUDEAN in origin and the European Jews were Israeli-Palestinian historical emigrees.

A simple view of an historical atlas clarifies the question of what that means.

No amount of your spin or name calling can change that.

That was the study YOU cited.

I think it's hilarious how preoccupied neonazis get with trying to define who are "real" Jews.

Once you find out, are you going to convert or something?

Posting info from AnCap's cited study....

...gets downvoted, because the information runs contrary to the neonazi theory of who is a "real" Jew.

Typical.

Only goes to prove the point.

And, yes, AnCap, I cited the very study that you did. Thank you for that source.

updated

separate Sy Hersh segment:

RT's Abby Martin's coverage of Sy's recent comments

Fmr NYT Journalist Seymour Hersh Blasts Bin Laden Fairytale, Calls for Corporate Media Shutdown

http://youtu.be/NTYatR8iaWs
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Published on Sep 30, 2013

Abby Martin gives props to world renowned journalist Seymour Hersh, for calling out the abysmal failure of the corporate media in the US, saying that the MSM should fire 90 percent of its reporters and that "not one word" of the bin laden death narrative is true.

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Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

Thanks AnCap

I would have missed this.

I think it was you that mentioned something about the Dam Breaking not too long ago as the lies and corruption continue to be exposed?

I agree. The beast is wounded and bleeding out, people just need stay clear of the tail.

EDIT: Well, no I wouldn't have. I thought you were talking about a different episode. I wouldn't have quit watching after the excellent first half. ;)

lol. yup:

"I think it was you that mentioned something about the Dam Breaking not too long ago as the lies and corruption continue to be exposed?"

that was just me being cautiously optimistic .)

but hopefully (for what that's worth)...

Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul