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I'm at a loss about what to do about the Granger

After all, she's been here so long. User #408.

And let's face it, we're all here for one reason: We all supported Ron Paul for President. That is, and will always be, our forever bond - no matter where we go, or where we end up.

People are moving on their separate ways. Like dandelion seeds to the wind. I saw a guy wearing a t-shirt with a dinosaur on it, and the words, "All my friends are dead."

Sometimes I feel like that here. So many people have come through these doors at the DP. And then, they just disappear into the ether. But it was all they they ever were - parts of the ether. I never saw them, spoke with them, seen the idiosyncrasies of their movement or dress. No physical representation, aside from what I've crafted in my mind.

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Remember '07? That will always be the highlight for me, because it was an original creation. So many things unfolded spontaneously, and beautifully. The Ron Paul Blimp remains a stellar achievement of that era. The Rudy Giuliani Game Changer.

Completely spontaneous. The Granger was there for '07.

2012 was so much more scripted. A template had been laid, and had to be followed. Everyone expected it. They even expected the blimp to be back. That's just suffocating.

Having to follow a script, I mean. Boring. Generally.

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The Daily Paul, also is in unchartered water. We have the scripts here - scripts of how we behave. It is boring. Predictable.

I'm done fighting with people. Nothing personal. Its just that 8 years of it takes its toll. I'm tired.

I don't want to come in here and see someone in a rage about their pet topic, mowing people down. I don't like seeing people reflexively downvoting people, just because of who they are. Then again, I was reminded (by The Granger) that I jumped on top of the pig pile at the end as well.

And so I did. Because I'm sick of the dogma.

I feel like I should ask her if she wants to come back and explain what happened. Because I don't get it. Somebody joked that the Granger was the only person ever to go from Ron Paul to being a neo-con.

I want to know what happened.

Granger, do you want to tell us?

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In honor of The Granger's

In honor of The Granger's return:

I must be willing to give up what I am in order to become what I will be. Albert Einstein


((((((((((Freedom's Remnant)))))))))))) When I got a crib 1/2 block from the beach in El Porto, the property owner let me "tag" my space.. so I painted a mural of a wave scene and over my door I put the words: Begger's Tomb.

Anybody's choice.. I can hear your voice.. all I want to know, how does the song go?

I still miss fishyculture

and many others!


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to name a few,are some i miss here

If we deny truth before your very eyes,then the rest of what we have to say,is of little consequence

Dont do anything Michael

the DP is flooded with interesting people despite the comments left behind.

Even if The Granger went Neo-Con, Its my opinion that those little snarks are what make the DP very diverse with regard to Right-Wingers.

Let it be

His name is Edward Snowden

What is Capitalism?

I totally agree.

If you don`t like what she says don`t read it.
get on with your bad self !

It is hard to imagine a more stupid or more dangerous way of making decisions than by putting those decisions in the hands of people that pay no price for being wrong.
Thomas Sowell

Nice !

Good call Michael. Welcome back Miss Granger. :) Don't be a NeoTard!

"If ever time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin."
Samuel Adams

Haha! You said neotard. I

Haha! You said neotard. I love it!

Michael Nystrom's picture


That is a good one.

He's the man.

Michael, Stop beating yourself up

Step back, take a deep breath and allow things to fall into context. There's no doubt, and this is well deserved, that you have a vested interest in this website. But after all it is a website and no one is forced to read or reply to anything unless they wish.

There are no politicians or bankers in foxholes.

Michael Nystrom's picture

I know

I'm not beating myself up. I'm just thinking. Ruminating. Like a cow.

The honest truth is - it is a community. It is more than a website.

I spawned it - now how do I get rid of it? lol (but not really)

Respect does have to be paid to this community, as a community.

Everyone deserves to be held accountable.

He's the man.

the DP is your child!

you will never get rid of it. ;)

(((((((((((((MN & DP community))))))))))))))

Dear ((((((Michael and DP community)))))),

THANK YOU for the second chance on DP. I have retaken my original nickname, The Granger, and eliminated the other name and personal message because most here know how I feel about the state that shall not be named.

It’s been said by other posters on DP better, and perhaps kinder than me, as to why I stopped posting. I apologize to those who are offended by my “conversion” and new found respect for the state that shall not be named. I didn’t make the posts to upset people, but merely to share what I have found, what I have learned. Some of you have NO interest. I respect that, just as I respect that we are all individuals, each with our own gifts, talents, blessings, and opinions, questions, struggles, suffering, life and love. For as long as I’ve been on DP, the best thing, besides the outstanding layout, formats and options, personal care I have not found on any other website, is the honest community feedback whether one likes it, agrees with it, or not.

The late great Jerry Garcia once replied when asked why he had such a big following out side the commercial music industry, “It’s like black licorice. Not everyone likes black licorice, but the people who like black licorice really, really, like black licorice. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0YKCm4QkwE

To those who support Black Licorice being in the “candy arcade” of DP, THANK YOU for your support and standing up for my liberty. “When they came for The Granger, you were not the Granger, but you stood for the Granger’s rights to be The Granger, and I appreciate that effort very much. THANK YOU.

The solution? I don’t know. I thought maybe DP could create an exhile Island, where people who have crossed the line can go for a time out, with those who are not exhiled able to visit?

THANK YOU ALL (((((MN & DP))))) for the second chance. May PEACE and Love prevail and triumph and long may DP ride on that train.

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Hi Granger

What a wonderful statement.

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I don't know if you know, but I made a new rule. The only people who can talk about your beloved state that cannot be named, are people who actually live in that state that cannot be named.

Undoubtedly, there will be violations. Rules, really, are for reference only. What is most important is the spirit of the journey, and that spirit must be undertaken in love.

He's the man.


I read that the Mayor of DP made a new rule that I respect, just sorry I had to find out the hard way.. love can do that. I made a top post with the email and apology to the community, The Granger Agenda exposed. Thank you for the second chance.

love, Granger

BoneToPick's Return From Exile

Remember when Bonaparte returned from Elba his reception ended at Waterloo.

I'm glad to see you back.


and he never saw his house in New Orleans.. those darn Bauer's, I mean Rithchilds http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/slavery.htm

((((((((((LiBerte))))))))) Thank you.

Welcome back!



Thank you for the welcome. Good to be back!

Welcome Back Grange!

Pray for the peace of Israel..

((((((((((((((((((LOve You Grange)))))))))))))))))))))))



((((((((((((((((emalvini)))))))))))) That I can do.

CHICKABOOM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rz-SqbsLqDI

Anyone who quotes Jerry Garcia...

...can't be all bad.

Welcome back, Granger.


(((Granger))) We've missed


We've missed you!

Must be weird to see a whole thread dedicated to you.


Thank you for standing with me when I was unable to stand for myself. The thread.. It's just a meme https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWpjZ3dY2ug&list=UUbrPqq29C9...

Lol! Now run along and behave


Now run along and behave yourself!

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she does exist

have a great posting day

If we deny truth before your very eyes,then the rest of what we have to say,is of little consequence

few things

few things beat a great posting day in DP. Thank you (((((((((deacon))))))))).

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Welcome back, Granger hope

Welcome back, Granger
hope you are doing well :)

It is easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled. – Mark Twain


((((scawarren))))) Thank you for the kind welcome.