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I love watching the establishment republicans SQUIRM!

I love hearing McCain being so unhappy with the Tea Party wing.

I love seeing the rat Peter King bemoaning Rand, Cruz and the Tea Party republicans.

I especially love seeing the rotted Graham having to shut his fat mouth because he's stuck now.

THIS was our strategy by not voting for any establishment republicans in 2012 and just "letting it burn."

We knew that even if the liberals won, but if we could just get a few principled members into the Congress, that we could in effect DIVIDE THE ROTTED REPUBLICAN PARTY.

So SQUIRM you fake-conservative establishment rats.

I say it was RON PAUL and US who are behind this brave new movement in the republican party who are fighting valiantly within their own party.

Before we can even think about dealing with the democrats, we have to slap our own house into order.

First we're going to take over the party, and then we're coming for the other party.

Even though I hate political parties, they are a fact of life for the moment.

But utimately, after first cleaning out our own house and finally dealing with the democrats, I'd like to see political parties disappear altogether.

Candidates would campaign only as INDIVIDUALS and with allegiance only to the Constitution and the country - NOT to some party platform.

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I love seeing democrats true colors...

Kicking and screaming about something nobody wants...obamacare!

Yeah, but we already KNOW Democrats' true colors...

...don't we???

"We have allowed our nation to be over-taxed, over-regulated, and overrun by bureaucrats. The founders would be ashamed of us for what we are putting up with."
-Ron Paul

Empty Threats Don't Work

As a voter and a party member, you can only complain for a while without taking action, before your threats lose their value.

That's why I registered as a Libertarian. I know the dominant parties study trends, and a shift in registration to Libertarian would scare them more than the alternatives: continuing to vote for the dominant party candidates, not voting, or dropping out.

Once there, I found out that my vote does count: as a delegate (which is easy to be in the LP), I can support candidates so that voters do have a way to express what they want: freedom.

I'm not saying don't fight within the dominant parties: I would LOVE it if I had 3 or 4 good libertarian candidates to choose from, regardless of party, for each race, but if you get discouraged with your efforts, or they kick you out, the LP is another option.

What do you think? http://consequeries.com/

I don't see it

I'll be leaving soon for the CA GOP fall convention and reporting from Anaheim about what I experienced this weekend.

Things have been changing, not just in the GOP, which have gone stealth.. for example, I know prebuis had the CA GOP hire a director.. I'm not exactly sure what the director is doing, information isn't flowing..suddenly the CA GOP, that was 1/2 million in debt is out of debt? the facade is thicker than mud.. the tea party is for the most part in CA, The GOP, because the neocons for the most part split.. the chair on my committee has resigned, not going to the convention.. and most new folks never had any practice in committee protocol, robert's rules of oder, resolutions, sub/executive committee.. just how things work.. it's all becomming precident..yet, I just rewrote our by-laws to be constitutional based.

I don't see the establishment squirming.. I see them bailing, and I see federal and state election laws are changing.. the laws are so complicated the feds and state don't even know them all.. I believe my committee is being audited.. thanks to the government shut down, I'm getting a break on filings and meetings.. but it's all changing, and I don't believe it is organic or an accident. Is the GOP terminating its self, or is it part of a global government merger?

It appears to me, Palin controls the Tea Party, and Rand is the one everyone wants to talk about but won't because the establishment forbids it, and why the RNC ban on CNN and MSNBC. Anyways, the convention should be interesting.. I heard 29% are showin to the convention.

Meanwhile, my committee is a liberty committee, do we end it? We could. What would you do, and why?

Do You End What?

I applaud you Granger for being willing to put your efforts into making sure there is a conservative backbone for those in California who want it. It's got to be one of the toughest uphill battles in modern day.

With so many businesses having left the state and with conservatives like myself who have decided we just can't live in that environment anymore, there just aren't very many Republicans left.

There are good, hard-working, intelligent people in California, but most are not. People are being given freebies when they don't even need them (Santa Ana Unified School District students are entitled to free lunches and free breakfasts without qualifying financially nor being legal residents). That's just one small example. My point is that as long as people are being given hand-outs (cash, food, food stamps, education, medical treatment, money for taking care of their own elderly family members, etc.) and they perceive it is the Democrats who are making it happen, they are going to vote for the Democrats.

And ever since Gray Davis gave the public employee union members huge pensions, higher salaries & even more perks than they already had, the Republicans have lost the votes of teachers, fire-fighters, police officers, prison guards and other public employees. They know Democrats will continue giving them these benefits while Republicans know it is not sustainable and will make a change.

I still own a house in California and I have family there so I am interested in what goes on in the legislature. But truthfully, I'm hoping to sell my house before they manage to disassemble Prop 13 and drastically lower my property value.

I don't see how the Republican Party is going to be relevant now that California voted to have the top two most vote getters be in their races. I've long suspected that at least some voter precincts are fraudulent. And now, the deck has been stacked even more in the favor of the Democrats.

Sorry to sound so pessimistic and I don't know what the answer is. It seems so dire to me, I moved out of the only state I have ever known as home. It was a difficult decision and a long, arduous task, but that's how strongly I feel there is no hope for California.

Good luck to you! I sincerely wish you much success.


I'm sorry that you are not here so I could invite you to the convention as my guest. If you have a moment you might want to read my convention report. I didn't expect this, but something told me when I found out that Prebius had the CA GOP chair hire a director, and didn't say much or anything about that.. the new director is 23, and it appears his job is to create a new GOP while the chair retired the old GOP. This is NOT the same GOP as in the spring.. I at this point expect the CA GOP to begin fielding many candidates under 30. They appear to be working hard to disenfranchise the old GOP, unless they have millions.. the ones with millions can stay, but the NEW WAVE of the GOP is LIBERTY and it's everywhere. Really, if you told me that I was at a Ron Paul convention, I'd believe you.

The only problem being

the establishment GOP plans to sell out, being the corporate collectivists they are. They hope to discourage the Tea Party followers into creating a 3rd party, where the game is rigged for it to fail. I wish we could break of the party, but unless we can force open hand counted elections, there is absolutely no chance. I think we need to direct our focus on our states reps and force them to start nulifying all the unconstitutional laws. But, then again, they can rig the elections to keep scumbags like Rick 'Al Gore' Perry in the Governorship, unless we have open hand counted elections.


In reality there are only a handful stopping it, If this can be cured the rest will follow.

If I disappear from a discussion please forgive me. My 24-7 business requires me to split mid-sentence to serve them. I am not ducking out, I will be back later to catch up.

Tampa - August 2012

Paul carried on with the theme. “Believe me, we will get in the tent because we will become the tent eventually,”

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know Peace." - Jimi Hendrix

This time around...

The R3VOLUTION will not be televised.

I am with you. I love watching these fake ass bastards writhe in their own piss. Crying about how horrible it is to stand up to these guys and how we all need to get along.

F$@* getting along. I saw what you did Boenher when you were in Tampa you piece of crap mother f&*ker.

I say screw it. Toss the dice and let the chips fall where they may.

What would Tyler Durden do? Stick it to these bastards and let the country come apart at the seams. It is already seeping and rotting with filth so they are just helping nudge it along. In case nobody was noticing it was not long anyways and now the entrenched Elitists will have a ready made scapegoat.

Who cares anyways. Hopefully we will have a full fledged default come October 17th and we can all put our money where our mouths are. Prepare everyone for what is coming I expect some bumpy times ahead.

Rogersan - EXCELLENT RANT! I loved every word of it...

Keep on helping me preach brother! (or sister if applicable).

"We have allowed our nation to be over-taxed, over-regulated, and overrun by bureaucrats. The founders would be ashamed of us for what we are putting up with."
-Ron Paul

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You preach it brother!

You preach the gospel!

The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. - Alan Watts

Thanks Michael - Happy to preach it - Loud and clear!

The republican party is experiencing a 9.0 earthquake and is fracturing.

Dr. Paul may be gone but his legacy has managed to shut down this federal government and is exposing the waste and fraud within it.

Nothing is going to give except within the party when an all out war breakes out between the McCain, Graham and King factions and the Cruz, Amash and Paul factions.

Either Bohener is going to have to cave in to the establishment or this will go on until the sheeples wake up.

This is highly entertaining for me.

"We have allowed our nation to be over-taxed, over-regulated, and overrun by bureaucrats. The founders would be ashamed of us for what we are putting up with."
-Ron Paul