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Sister of slain D.C. driver, retired NYPD sergeant, responds to her sister's death

Sister of slain D.C. driver, retired NYPD sergeant, responds to her sister's death
By Martin Hill
LibertyFight.com
October 4, 2013

http://libertyfight.com/2013/miriam_carey_nypd_sister_respon...

The sister of 34-year-old dental hygienist Miriam Carey, who was killed yesterday by D.C. police, is a retired NYPD Sergeant who has briefly responded to comments via social media regarding her sister's death. Valarie Carey, described on her website as an entrepreneur, talk show host and "a retired NYC Police Sergeant who was injured on the job," posted on her twitter account Wednesday "I thank all whom showed me and my family concern while we deal with this horrible situation. When the family is ready we will make a statement #THANKYOU #lovemysister."

A hint of what may come was posted in a reply Vararie Carey made to another post about the tragedy.
Sports broadcaster Bruce Hall had tweeted "Watching the film of the chase of Miriam Carey's car around the Capitol, it was a pretty weird scene. How about shooting the tires out?" to which Carey posted an emphatic "THANK YOU!", in all caps.

The attorney for the Carey family, Eric Sanders, posted a message on twitter and facebook which read "Attention Media: I am representing the family of Miriam Carey, the woman involved in the DC shooting incident. From this point, please refrain from trying to contact the family and direct any inquiries to me. We will be giving an official statement in the near future. Thank you."

D.C. Police Chief Cathy Lanier, in her official press release, stated "There were multiple shots fired during this incident and this case is under investigation by the Metropolitan Police Department with assistance from US Secret Service, US Capitol Police, and the Federal Bureau of Investigation."

Tom Davis, a retired NYPD officer who spent 15 years on the force, noted "her working and past mental health history aren't clear as yet, but from everything I've read (as of this morning) she hasn't worked over the past year related to a work injury (she fell on her head). There are also numerous mentions of her being both a very nice person and one who was 'disturbed.' The family rightfully is demanding a full investigation, but what isn't in question is that she drove her car in a way that could have caused the death of innocent people, while at the same time having zero regard for her infant daughter who was in the car. It appears she was given every opportunity to end the matter without additional violence, but she chose not to. Again, much more needs to be learned about her and her final moments, but in my opinion, she alone set this deadly ball in motion with her reckless conduct." [article continues here http://libertyfight.com/2013/miriam_carey_nypd_sister_respon... ]

Martin Hill is a Catholic paleoconservative and civil rights advocate. His work has been featured in the Los Angeles Daily News, The Orange County Register, KNBC4 TV Los Angeles, LewRockwell.com, WhatReallyHappened.com, Infowars.com, PrisonPlanet.com, Economic Policy Journal, FreedomsPhoenix, Haaretz, TMZ, Veterans Today, Jonathan Turley blog, The Dr. Katherine Albrecht Show, National Motorists Association, RomanCatholicReport.com, WorldNetDaily, IamtheWitness.com, The Michael Badnarik Show, The Wayne Madsen Report, Devvy.com, Rense.com, CopBlock.org, DavidIcke.com, Antiwar.com, and many others. Archives can be found at LibertyFight.com and DontWakeMeUp.Org.

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STEW WEBB

Stew breaks it down

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/10/08/was-the-d-c-driver-t...

watch videos please,

the child was taken from the car , THEN GUNFIRE ERUPTED, and someone might have been seen fleeing the car leaving the witness to believe
there might be other suspects in the car.

fact is they murdered this woman

family not allowed to see the body only a photo ? REALLY
child is in protective custody, and also not allowed to see family

my guesses are they murdered her for some reason, mayb the dod or darpa really were beaming signals into her head, much like the alexis navy yard guy.

nuff said

"He's this eccentric Ghandi-Like figure that you cant touch with the normal bribes that people respond to."
the man Doug Wead on DR. RON PAUL

I'll lose some reception points for this but.....

1. First off we have no reason to believe published reports but they are all we have to go on.

2. If I had the job of securing that area and it's assets that would be primary to me otherwise I wouldn't take the job.

3. If I'm securing the place and a person weaponizes a motor vehicle, jumps a curb, impacts safety barriers leading to a gate AND if this person does not comply with orders to surrender AND if they instead turn, flee and cause more mayhem ON THE WAY TO AN EVEN MORE SENSITIVE TARGET,

4. I would have ordered her neutralized as a threat too. And I would have fired. And I wouldn't have bothered picking a non-lethal target. I'm here to secure people from threats not secure the threat itself.

This isn't exactly a hypothetical for me, I've been director of security for more than a few movement mass gatherings and I've used force to protect us.

See I don't need to know if the threat is on meds, having a bad day or just really wants to see what's on the other side of the gate. It's not my job to. When I do my job it's to insure your safety and guess what that means?

Everybody and everything else comes second.

I think perhaps the problem here is a certain schizophrenia with regard to security in DC: on the one hand we want to preserve this illusion of a free and open society but on the other hand THE MALL AREA IN DC IS ONE OF THE MOST HEAVILY SECURED OPEN-AIR LOCATIONS ON PLANET EARTH AND BEHAVING IN A VIOLENT AND UNPREDICTABLE MANNER CAN GET YOU ICED VERY FAST. And now you see that and now you know.

Reports now indicate she was medicated out the yin, was hearing voices, was obsessed with Obama and convinced she was on television. If true, taking her out might have saved lives.

There is nothing strange about having a bar of soap in your right pocket, it's just what's happening.

shot the tires out or go work

shot the tires out or go work at wendys. All reasonable options.

Ron Paul 2016

I think

Wendy's is more dangerous. ;)

Could it be possible

That this poor child could be nurtured and loved by some family
member(s) now that mom has been so terribly murdered?

I pray it may be so!

Peace everyone

" In Thee O Lord do I put my trust " ~ Psalm 31:1~

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"shooting the tires out?"

was this considered first??

“The God who gave us life, gave us liberty at the same time: the hand of force may destroy, but cannot disjoin them.”

– Thomas Jefferson

After watching the video yesterday, I was aghast at the

at the Rambo responses by the police. It was no wonder she was trying to escape from the psychos with guns, screaming and shooting like madmen. She appeared to be going about 3 MPH. I hope the video goes viral and everyone gets a chance to see what really happened and the extent of her so-called ramming of the barricades.

Is there any video available of her second encounter?

"A vote for the lesser of two evils is a vote to keep things the same", Buckminster Fuller..
A choice for liberty is always a choice for liberty.

facebook doesnt like my site.

facebook doesnt like my site. use the dailypaul or whatreallyhappened.com lin & either will post on facebook.

If it already has not started,

people need to take flowers to the site of this woman's murder and build a memorial.

[F]orce can only settle questions of power, not of right. - Clyde N. Wilson

I was trying to post this to

I was trying to post this to facebook and it tells me that the "link is unsafe 0catch.com" whats up with this?

Homeland security statement: patriotism is now considered terrorism.
I love www.isidewith.com shared it with everyone I know. If anything they realize its not just a red and blue idiot running for reelection.

OJ

I still recall the OJ car pursuit or 'escort' if you will.

I do not think any TV sports were viewed that Friday night. ;)

donvino

Wiping tears after reading reply of loving sister.

Let's arrest the murderers and let private investigators hash it out in the courts.

The feds are called in when cover-up is needed, IMO.

Free includes debt-free!

simple test of moral consistency would be to

imagine the scenario where you take away the uniform, the badge, and all its symbolic emblem that it represents.

now, much like the recent NYC Range Rover driver and the motorcyclists, it all depends on when and how the incident started, and what it was about, and by whom was the whole chain of events initiated by?

maybe other vids are out there, but the only one of the actual incident I saw is where the cops surround her. the MSM allege that she rammed into the WH gate or a temporary barricade? well, in the video shot by the Arab TV crew does not seem to have any damage to the front of her Infiniti. Now, suppose it could've been one of those polymer barriers that are made to look like concrete ones. but modern cars being what it is, unless you have a metal bumper, everything is plastic. and, if she RAMMED, even a plastic barrier, as they make it sound, the front of her Infiniti's bumper would've been busted up, at the least scratched up heavily.

so, to me, unless there are picture or video evidence proving otherwise, from that footage, at least the ones I've seen, the car does not seem to have any residual damage from the alleged ramming into a temporary barrier set to block off path to the White House.

So their claim that she tried to ram the gates, seem shoddy at best.

Then, if you really examine from the moment in the parking lot or wherever she stopped where all the cops approach and surround her vehicle. If you take away their badge & state-autho-ri-teh 'power,' all you have left is a group of gangbangers threatening a weak prey with an offspring for entering their territory.

Surrounding a prey, is what any predator does to limit any possibility for their soon-to-be-lunch-prey to escape its grasp.

If so, then why wouldn't any prey fearing its life and of her offspring not do everything in her power to escape??

Predator vs. Prey. Take away the emblem of the State/the Leviathan?

That, is all that is happening here, in the finality.

IF we're to strictly judge based on the parking lot escape, being shot at, to driving around in the the roundabout footage shot by an Arab TV crew who happened to be live at the scene at the time of the shooting.

Predator vs. Prey, no?

Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

Really? Look again. Plenty

Really? Look again. Plenty of damage to the vehicle on the passenger side of the front bumper.

Considering the only damage

Considering the only damage to Victim's car was bullet holes...This police cruiser ran into something else.?????

you want to know what does happen to a typical sedan

when it RAMS into a barricade?

just look at what actually DID happen to a police cruiser that literally RAMMED, speeding into a checkpoint barricade/barrier, while CHASING Miriam Carey:


notice how the front bumper 'broke' off? it separated from where the front bumper meets the front quarter-panels: that, is where the bumper should've separated IF Miriam did indeed RAM a barrier

Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

The speed of the vehicle

obviously has nothing to do with it.

There is nothing strange about having a bar of soap in your right pocket, it's just what's happening.

yeah 'cause apparently

"ramming" is same as parkinglot speed "nudging"

Na of course the speed of the vehicle had nothing to do with it. Nope. Physics? Momentum? Inertia? Never heard of it. Lol .cD

Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

Or

The police had the road blocked. Realizing she couldn't go forward, I believe she stopped the car, put it in reverse and floored it. I don't know if she saw the police vehicle behind her, but this would also account for the damage to the vehicle in the picture above. If my guess is correct, there is damage to the back of her car.

Here we go again.

Here we go again. photoanalysts on daily paul. you all did such a great job after the boston massacre didn't you?

That's funny,

'cause I was just thinking about how your discernment skills must actually be excellent, and has lots of credibility now that you were COMPLETELY WRONG about how the front bumper on the passenger side of Miriam Carey's Infiniti has "Plenty of damage".

LOLOLOL!!!

MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

If that's your idea of "photoanalysis," keep talking to yourself.

You've already established that you don't even look at the actual photos that you claimed to have seen 'evidence' of. Yet, you're lecturing people on photoanalysis skills?

Also, why the dickish attitude? Well allow me to reply in kind:

Hi I'm AnCapMerc. Nice to motherfcuking meet you, PRRedlin.

I don't know who the hell you think you are to lump me in, as if I was also going around promoting x, y, z photos from the Boston Massacre. Of course, you thought I did that, just like how you thought that Miriam Carey's Infiniti's front-bumper also suffered "plenty of damage".

Apparently, you talk a lot about a lot of things you know jack schit about.

I'm so glad you have zero netiquette; I feel less guilty about saying the following: now PRRedlin, until you learn to deploy some modicum of courtesy, have a nice fcuking day.

And PRRedlin, don't bother engaging with me, until then, okie doke?

PS. I find it hilarious that you didn't reply to the 'front bumnper' reply, but this current one. But even if so, you DO know that the police cruiser DID RAM into the barrier, right?

There's only like an ACTUAL video of it???

http://youtu.be/Ao3617loZ0k

Yes, PRR, that's an actual bumper that busted off, 'cause you know, that happens when a car RAMS into something...from the front?

Describing 'hey look your bumper fell off' is not a photoanalysis, it's called "um, like dude, like when your car's front bumper fell off, um dude, like 'cause um...it DID'

oooh a 'conspiracy' of bumper fall-offs. What will sockpuppets think of next??

Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

yes, YOU should look again: when they decribed her vehicle as

"RAMMING" a temporary WH barricade, that would be the FRONT of the vehicle you do that with. You don't "RAM" a gate with passenger side of a vehicle:

This is what the FRONT of her car looked like, AFTER they shot her; still NO FRONT BUMPER damage:

The slight crumple on the driver side quarter panel, slightly behind the light cluster is from her trying to escape and allegedly hit one of the police vehicles, NOT "RAMMING" a barrier/gate. That would be frontal damage, if that actually happened. The front grille would most likely either snap or 'mushed' into the radiator.

Do you know what happens to the front of modern car's bumper's connecting points where 'clips' and screws go?

They POP out.

Imagine if your jaw was the bumper and imagine getting punched by Mike Tyson from the front. Until enough force is applied to where the front middle of your jaw will snap, the first place that will bear the brunt of the dissipation force is your joint: where your mandible and your skull 'meets.' If that were your sedan? That's where your bumper meets the front quarter panels: the 'clips'/screws holding your bumper will pop out at those points, at any moderately serious impact speed.


This is top view AFTER the kill: NO DAMAGE to the front bumper where she supposedly used it to RAM a gate/barrier.

Yes, you SHOULD look again. There is no "plenty of damage to the vehicle on the passenger side of the front bumper"

You must be looking at your new Infinite Dealer Brochure ,oD

Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

Good lord, that car didnt ram anything.

Modern cars are rediculously fragile when it comes to hitting things and the body damages quite easily. It does look however like it may have been a partial side swipe.
I didnt watch any tapes or know much on this, but is it possible she lost control and then paniced after she saw the police response?

To climb the mountain, you must believe you can.

yup, because IF she did "RAM" the temp. WH barrier@Chk Pt.

as govt terrorists & MSM have been propagandizing, the following would've happened to her Infiniti, too:


http://youtu.be/Ao3617loZ0k

Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

That's a Reasonable Guess

Even more so, I believe, in light of the possibility of her already being mentally unstable. Any normal person would be frightened by such a violent response to an accident.

Post-Partum Depression?

An excellent reminder why it is that thou shalt not judge. We're all driven by hormones and we know what it feels like (if you survived puberty, you know). The cops were certainly feeling theirs.

What do you think? http://consequeries.com/

This whole thing is

This whole thing is just...sickening from start to finish. I'm sure there's a LOT that we don't know and the story will be spun a certain way but hearing she was suffering from PPD...that just makes it worse. PPD is no joke, especially if the mother doesn't have proper support or feels ashamed of it (which many mothers do). It can put even the best of women in very dark and sad places.

...I don't really know what other lines we have left to cross. :(

An absolute miracle

the baby was not shot. I doubt if the child could have been seen from the outside but still I am with the "shoot out the tires" crowd. This lady had no gun.

I think the majority of people here are being

very unfair to the police in this situation. Mr. Davis is correct, she determined the outcome, whatever her mental state was, the police had to stop her.

She was not only a danger to herself, but to her child, police officers and others. From the information I have, the video circulating in the media is the second time the police tried to stop her. For the second time, she was not going to stop. She used her car to injure a secret service agent and another police officer and sped away. Police have to qualify on the firing range periodically during the year to keep their jobs. Police officers are proficient in the use their firearms. The shots heard at the second stop were probably counter intuitive for most officers, they could have taken her out then. They didn't. There was no reason to believe the third stop was going to end any differently as far as the driver was concerned.

At speeds of over 60 MPH, what if she lost control of the car, jumped the curb and plowed into a group of tourists, killing some of them. What if the gas tank ruptured, the car caught fire and she and her daughter were burnt to death. I wonder what the conversation would be this morning if this was the outcome?

Bystanders have the luxury of time to perform a postmortem analysis. At the time of the incident police have split seconds. It's a sad situation all the way around, for this woman, for her daughter, for police officers, and others.

Instead of congress giving a rousing applause, they should have observed a moment of silence and prayed for all the parties involved.

There are plenty of other

There are plenty of other ways this could have been resolved. The police were acting paranoid and went for the quick and easy way out. Why didnt they shoot out her tires? Why didnt they try to bust the window and taser her? Numerous other ways to have resolved this and the police took the easiest way that didnt take much of any thought.

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