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The One BIG Thing That Has Been Bothering Me

The One BIG Thing that bothers me is that our troops will not be here when WE need them. Here's why:

In *1969 Dr. Stuart Crane did a presentation about the NWO and the future. The presentation is proving to be EXTREMELY ACCURATE to this day.

The presentation was entitled “Proofs of Conspiracy.” At the end of his presentation, he [Dr. Crane] stated that he believed, "That when America is finally taken over, our troops will be sent out of the country."

This is extremely bothersome to me because this is never talked about and that we now have foreign troops standing & training on our soil.

Is Dr. Crane right or wrong on this issue? Only time will tell. However IMHO the word still has to get out on this and the people must demand that a certain number of our troops must ALWAYS remain on American soil.

For more info on Dr. Crane see:
http://www.dailypaul.com/50683/a-special-report-proofs-of-co...

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The lecture, Proofs of Conspiracy was given several times. If anyone knows a good working link, or can download the old tapes to link would be much appreciated.

Thanks!

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-Update-
Links to audio, Thanks to John Robb:
http://www.dailypaul.com/301403#comment-3219158

*-Update-
I originally posted the tapes were made in 1971. I was listening to tape #3 and Mr. Crane said it was 1969! Giving that much more credibility to this lecture. It is STILL passing the test of time, THAT much longer.

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Don't worry.

Some of us are Armed, and it ain't just with muskets anymore boys and girls.

You ain't jokin':

http://www.deserttacticalarms.com/guns/dta-srs-sniper-rifle-...

Shout out to AnCap for pointing me in the right direction.

If you don't know your rights, you don't have any.

Civil War: Don't Let it Happen.......

History teaches that, outside forces always help instigate a civil war and induce economic break down to take place in the "targeted country for take over" before the invasion to "loot and claim ownership of the newly absorbed country." The objective is to use up the existing available natural resources and weaken the ship's infrastructure and the people themselves before outside counties send in their forces and go into "mop up."

I feel many of the active forces (police, etc) that are trainning to carry out the dictates of the NWO expect to have cushy plush lives after the mop up.

Little do they realize that they and their families are the ones targeted for the moped up.

They really need to KNOW THIS and then maybe they'll look into this stuff a little deeper and have a change of heart and for once team up with the gun-rights activists?.

P.S.
THE MAIN POINT OF THIS POST IS THE AUDIO LINKS. BE SURE TO LISTEN TO THE LINKS. THEY ARE LONG BUT ABSOLUTELY WORTH IT.

Because: Some animals are more equal than other animals. -Animal Farm-

What the? > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MTIwY3_-ks

Post correction.....

I originally posted the tapes were made in 1971. I was listening to tape #3 and Mr. Crane said it was [then] 1969! Giving that much more credibility to his lecture. It is STILL passing the test of time, THAT much longer.

Because: Some animals are more equal than other animals. -Animal Farm-

What the? > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MTIwY3_-ks

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This Was Discussed in 6-16-1788 - Virgina Ratifying Convention

Virginia Ratifying Convention 6-16-1788:

MR. PATRICK HENRY (WARNS): ".....suppose Congress, in either case, demands a number of militia, will they not be obliged to go?

>>>>Where are your reserved rights, when your militia go to a neighboring state?

Which call is to be obeyed, the congressional call, or the call of the state legislature?

The call of Congress must be obeyed.

I need not remind this {423} committee that the sweeping clause will cause their demands to be submitted to. This clause enables them "to make all laws which shall be necessary and proper to carry into execution all the powers vested by this Constitution in the government of the United States, or in any department or officer thereof."

Mr. Chairman, I will turn to another clause, which relates to the same subject, and tends to show the fallacy of their argument.

The 10th section of the 1st article, to which reference was made by the worthy member, militates against himself.

It says, that "no state shall engage in war, "unless" actually invaded."

If you give this clause a fair construction, what is the true meaning of it? What does this relate to? Not domestic insurrections, but war.

If the country be invaded, a state may go to war, but cannot suppress insurrections. ...

...They cannot, therefore, suppress it without the interposition of Congress. The 4th section of the 4th article expressly directs that, in case of domestic violence, Congress shall protect the states on application of the legislature or executive; and the 8th section of the 1st article gives Congress power to call forth the militia to quell insurrections: there cannot, therefore, be a concurrent power.

The "state" legislatures ought to have power to call forth the efforts of the militia, when necessary. Occasions for calling them out may be urgent, pressing, and instantaneous. The states cannot now call them, let an insurrection be ever so perilous, without an application to Congress. So long a delay may be fatal.

There are three clauses which prove, beyond the possibility of doubt, that Congress, and Congress only, can call forth the militia. (APP Note: Speaking of the document) The clause giving Congress power to call them out to suppress insurrections, that which restrains a state from engaging in war except when actually invaded; and that which requires Congress to protect the states against domestic violence, render it impossible that a state can have power to intermeddle with them.

Will not Congress find refuge for their actions in these clauses?

With respect to the concurrent jurisdiction, it is a political monster of absurdity.

We have passed that clause which gives Congress an unlimited authority over the national wealth; and here is an unbounded control over the national strength.

Notwithstanding {424} this clear, unequivocal relinquishment of the power of controlling the militia,

you say the states retain it, for the very purposes given to congress. Is it fair to say that you give the power of arming the militia, and at the same time to say you reserve it?

This great national government ought NOT TO BE LEFT in this condition.

If it be, it will terminate in the destruction of our liberties."

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Mr. JAMES MADISON. "Mr. Chairman, let me ask this committee, and the honorable member last up, what we are to understand from this reasoning. The power must be vested in Congress, or in the state governments; or there must be a division or concurrence. He is against division.

It is a political monster.

He will not give it to Congress for "fear of oppression".

Is it to be vested in the state governments? If so, where is the provision for general defence?

If ever America should be attacked, the states would fall successively. It will prevent them from giving aid to their sister states; for, as each state will expect to be attacked, and wish to guard against it, each will retain its own militia for its own defence.

Where is this power to be deposited, then, unless in the general government, if it be dangerous to the public safety to give it exclusively to the states?

If it must be divided, let him show a better manner of doing it than that which is in the Constitution.

I cannot agree with the other honorable gentleman, that there is no check.

THERE IS A POWERFUL CHECK IN THAT PAPER (i.e. The Constitution)

The "STATE" government"S" are to govern the (Citizen) MILITIA when not called forth for general "national" purposes;

and Congress is to govern such part ONLY as may be in the "actual service of the Union".

Nothing can be more certain and positive than this. It expressly empowers Congress to govern them when in the service of the United States.

It is, then, "clear" that the "STATES" govern them "when they are not"."

APP Note: The danger that presents itself now, is that the state "militias" once controlled by the state and it's Governor, and or local Counties when not in foreign service have been assimilated into the standing army as a "National Guard" so that all military men are "always in the service of the United States" - where are our independent state militias?...

Mr. GEORGE MASON (Same Convention): "...His fears, as he had before expressed, were, that grievous punishments would be inflicted, in order to render the service disagreeable to the (CITIZEN) MILITIA themselves, and induce them to wish its abolition, which would afford a PRETENSE for establishing a "standing army"."

(APP Note: This has already happened).

Where is our checks to power clearly intended by the founders to protect each independent state, and if necessary, against the generality?

Gone;

But not prohibited to be reformed and re-instituted by the states and Citizens themselves should they choose, (and is their DUTY) as clearly indicated by these intents being a right of the state to arm, import arms, and discipline its own militias "outside" the federal government. -

See again John Marshall's statements above these quotes in the Debate, as well George Nicholas and Mr. Pendleton's Statements in the Full Debate: Read it:

http://www.americanpatriotparty.cc/americanpatriotpartynewsl...

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John Locke #201, 202, 212 to 232; Virginia and Kentucky Resolutions 1798; Virginia Ratifying Convention 6-16-1788; Rights of the Colonists 1772.

George Washington Said it to the CITIZENS:

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George Washington:

•"Let us therefore "ANIMATE" (i.e. MOVE, MOBILIZE, TRAIN, ARM, EDUCATE TO SKILLS OF WAR and PREPARE) and encourage each other,

and show the whole world that a Freeman, contending for liberty on his own ground, is superior to any slavish mercenary on earth."

◦ General Orders, Headquarters, New York (2 July 1776).

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John Locke #201, 202, 212 to 232; Virginia and Kentucky Resolutions 1798; Virginia Ratifying Convention 6-16-1788; Rights of the Colonists 1772.

Here's another surprising source that says the same thing...

But in an advisory manner.

Do you remember Bill Ayres, and Bernadine Dorn, part of a group known as the Weathermen ?

They bombed the Capital Building during the Vietnam war, murdered a few cops, got off on a technicality?

Get a copy of " it doesn't take a weatherman to tell which way the wind blows " , it was their how to manual..

I believe that the part about dividing up our military and having it be all over the globe in different locations is part of their strategy to take over., it's towards the back of the manual .

Another source, but I can't recall if I'm remembering it correctly as being in there also is the STORM manual written by Timothy Van Jones, another 70's shit head, I meant socialist radical.

Anyway, I came out of self imposed " retirement " here to pass this on...,.

But now for more.....quite Steadfast.

I am a Wyclif plow boy, just walking with Iesōus.

God Bless

Drew, by the very grace of GOD through the blood of Christ Jesus.
"there shall come after us men whom shall garner great wealth using our system, and having done so shall seek to slam the door of prosperity behind them." George Washington

Darn!

I forgot, Ayers dad put Obama through College, and was instrumental in getting Obama elected to the senate. Also, Ayers and Van Jones were part of Obama's first term inner circle.

Drew, by the very grace of GOD through the blood of Christ Jesus.
"there shall come after us men whom shall garner great wealth using our system, and having done so shall seek to slam the door of prosperity behind them." George Washington

There was a post on this back in 2008

Everything old is new again.
Here's a link for those interested. Doug Evans, the author of the post, adds more names to the mix.
http://www.dailypaul.com/50683/a-special-report-proofs-of-co...
And just 1 upvote? Weird.

If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy.
James Madison

I just read it and would urge everyone to click on the

link both stm and the OP provided for the 2008 post by Doug Evans. Is he still here or did he give up on this community?

Michael Nystrom's picture

Thank you

Definitely something to consider.

Like sending all the Jedis out of town...

I wish we all lived in the same community

All of my neighbors are completely blind to what is happening.

Think Cell.

:)

RichardTaylorAPP - Chair - American Patriot Party.CC

John Locke #201, 202, 212 to 232; Virginia and Kentucky Resolutions 1798; Virginia Ratifying Convention 6-16-1788; Rights of the Colonists 1772.

Move?

Just do what FishyCulture advised. Start your own group. She bought property among like minded people. They're building greenhouses, rocket stoves, fish tank gardens.

Deekey

We need regular

folks gearin' 'n trainin.'

When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign: that the dunces are all in confederacy against him. ~J. Swift

I Agree With Dr. Crane.

The NWO clowns, led by the Bushes, co-opted the state by state Guard troops who are/were under the control of the 50 state Governors, and replaced the Militia of the several states mentioned in Amendment 2 of the U.S. Constitution.

beesting

why do you need troops?

why do you need troops? learned to shoot or use a firearm? if you have not, you are derelict in your duty to this Republic.

If anyone knows... or can...

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"In order to have a true world government, all nations must be merged together. Because developed nations will not willfully merge with undeveloped nations and it is impossible for socialism to develop undeveloped nations, developed nations must be undeveloped.”

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That was interesting

This was back in 1969, We fast forward to today and it makes one think. The one thing that threw them a curve is the internet and our ability to communicate, they did not see that coming. Thanks for posting this.

Thanks for this

just finished listening to part 1 and it's EXCELLENT! Can't wait to listen to more!
Someone needs to have this transcribed. Would you know if it is?

If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy.
James Madison

Right stm......

Not only is the guy a great teacher, but he's hillairous.

Dr. Crane once said in his hypothetical way, "If I were dictator for a day" I'd make everyone read "The Law." I agree, and in my hypothetical way, not only would I make everyone read "The Law" I'd make everyone listen to these tapes......

Well actually I'd have this stuff advertised and a major subject in the school system.

Have you heard pt. 2 yet? It keeps getting better because he has to build the lecture-foundation first then he builds on that.

This stuff is absolute DP material.

Because: Some animals are more equal than other animals. -Animal Farm-

What the? > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MTIwY3_-ks

You know.....

you know what's become of the guy? He just kinda faded away. Although, up there in age, last I checked he was still alive. But does he ever talk anymore?

Because: Some animals are more equal than other animals. -Animal Farm-

What the? > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MTIwY3_-ks

I don't know...

but I'm staring at his picture and thinking that if you imagine shaving the top of his head, that he would look like Carroll Quigley's twin :D, one of two twins with the same information, holding similar professorships at competing eastern universities in the same era, but holding opposite opinions about that information. Such an odd notion reminds me of yet another professor's interesting read...

Wow John......

Thanks!

Years ago I used to have some of the old cassett tapes on this series, heard em many, many times. Although they were a little different, it was done on the same note.

VERY INTERESTING STUFF for sure! The man was 40+ years ahead of his time so few could see how accurate he really was back then.

Note the owl to his right in the photo. In the occult the owl is called wise. Why? Because he "sees in the dark." Big with the so-called illuminated ones today.

So glad to hear this guy again. Thanks!

Because: Some animals are more equal than other animals. -Animal Farm-

What the? > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MTIwY3_-ks

You're welcome,

and thanks backatcha for reminding me of such. I'm also reminded of the one guy still around who fits the Fabians at the hub of global affairs, Alan Watt. I haven't listened to him for quite some time, but he remains one of the most interesting blokes around.

I'm also reminded of the great educator, Robert LeFevre, whose old tapes are available courtesy of Lew Rockwell.

There are foreign troops on US Soil...awaiting martial law

http://www.dailypaul.com/296496/nwo-russan-troops-policing-a...

We've spread our defenses too thin, and have diluted our money with fiat currency. Just like the Roman Empire. The Barbarians are at the gates. The Senate (Congress) has fallen, and Caesar has become a Emperor (Obama is a dictator). Just like the Roman Empire.

PEOPLE OPPOSING TYRANNY - Real Grass Roots!
Are you a POT or a PET - Person Embracing Tyranny?

We can only

hope that Patriots in the military are aware and awake (and I believe the vast majority are); therefore, if and when TSHTF they will have plans in place to get home (to the USA) quickly...

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Ron Paul 2012...and beyond
BAN ELECTRONIC VOTING!!

Except for the fact that

Except for the fact that Americans are still armed themselves. As everyone should know from the middle east, it doesnt take a huge army to actually fight against one.
How many would pick up their weapon and actually fight though? I dont know, but the US has the most armed civilians in the world, it wouldnt take but maybe 10% of them to pick up their weapons and fight in order to give someone a bad taste for attacking.

To climb the mountain, you must believe you can.

They could barely handle a single unarmed woman in car, in DC...

You think they could stop a nationwide revolution?

It wouldn't take but less than 1% of the toughest, badest gun-owning American patriots to take back this country, over night.

I truly believe that. As for those who will say they'll bomb you, I say this... "Grab em by the belt buckle"... and "fight the enemy where he isn't"...

PEOPLE OPPOSING TYRANNY - Real Grass Roots!
Are you a POT or a PET - Person Embracing Tyranny?