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ATTENTION Libertarians: IGNORE the Fact that the Women from Capitol Shooting Was Schizophrenic

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I think this increases by

I think this increases by quite a bit the chance that she lost it when the cops responded like they did.
Had a single cop approached the car and non-threateningly knocked on the window, this situation probably wouldnt have happened either way.

To climb the mountain, you must believe you can.

My Car Could Have a Bomb on Board; Bumper Sticker

Or "Bomb on Board" Bumper Stickers on every car is what is needed to stop our collective insanity.

You tards don't get it...

It's not about whether or not her being schizophrenic means she should or should not be allowed in D.C.

It's about the fact that she was Schizophrenic, psychotic, and endangering her child's life.

Since when did dangerous schizophrenic behavior with an infant nearby become acceptable to libertarians?

Oh, I know when: when it could be used as red meat to point an arbitrary finger of scrutiny at the government.

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When did executing an unarmed woman become acceptable?

You justifying the actions of these bloodthirsty police officers is beyond disgusting.

"If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy." -- James Madison

since when did it become ok

since when did it become ok to make false assertions and paint people with a broad brush?

Oh, I know when: when it could be used as red meat to justify backwards/overreached thinking.

She was also wrong for endangering her child. Here is where the "red meat" is, the fact is she was on foot and running when they shot her, that's where the cops went way over the line, it's really very simple. You don't think they could've just ran a little, tackled, and arrested her? I don't want a bunch of judge dreads running around.

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Hmmmm. You think its ok to murder Schizophrenics?

Since when did emotional problems become grounds for a death sentence?

Your multiple rants about why police, & secret service were justified in an unarmed mother after she exited from her car shows serious mental and emotional instability on your part. And then you repeatedly call people "tards" because they question your values, morals and perceptions? Hmmmmm.

You best be careful because by the measure you judge others is the standard by which you will be judged.

PS: If I were you I'd consider changing your name because of the dichotomy with your words.

"A vote for the lesser of two evils is a vote to keep things the same", Buckminster Fuller..
A choice for liberty is always a choice for liberty.

You're a fraud....

Passing yourself as a Freedom lover, yet justifying the murder of a young mother who needed help, is beyond deplorable. You're the biggest TARD I've seen post on this site yet.

Give it up Obama

They screwed up so get over it.

No Schizophrenic people are allowed in Washington?...

I guess that's the message on this one. How many people in the northeast where she was from have seen a government checkpoint? I live in the northeast and I have never seen one or heard of one.

So you take an upset schizophrenic women and you put her at the first government check point she has ever seen, most likely, and she lost it. Does that mean she should die? Or does that mean we don't need to be having FEMA region 3 martial law drills in America. Do you think she or 90% of the American people even know these drills are going on right now? Started October 1st

IMO the drills like everything in America right now just precipitated this event. Instead of shooting her tires more and more armed federal agents are being trained to kill Americans. This is the real problem! The reports are that she was actually out of her car running when shot. How heroic is it to shoot someone in the back? We just want the government out of our lives and they don't want too.



yeah, then she deserves to die... *roll eyes*

I use Blue Wave, but don't expect one of THEIR silly taglines.

lol. well, apparently CNN agrees that she should die for being

in DC, and DC thugs simply not knowing who she might be! Yay!

Miriam Carey's Sister, Valarie's OpenLetter Warning to America & Cops: YOU Could be Next! Is This the Kind of Country You want?

Miriam Carey's Sister: "Deadly Physical Force Was Not The Ultimate Recourse"

Published on Oct 5, 2013

At approximately 11:10 p.m. on Friday night, Miriam Carey's family spoke publicly with the media in front of a home in Brooklyn for the first time since the Capitol car chase and the death of Carey that resulted.

Earlier in the day, the AP reported that Miriam Carey's sister Amy Carey-Jones said on CNN there should have been "another way instead of shooting and killing an individual." Her sister Valerie Carey added that she "did not deserve to have her life cut down" at age 34.


One of her sisters finished by thanking her "brothers and sisters in blue for their support," and: "There was no need for a gun to be used; I don't know what gun protocol is in D.C., but I know what they are in New York City."

[Though, I would strongly dispute her high praise for her rather undeserving fellow NYPD cops and their muzzle discipline, be that as it may...]

Robert Wenzel's take: (H/T: LewRockwell.com)

About the Death of Miriam Carey at the Hands of Washington D.C. and Capitol Police

The death of Miriam Carey is a terrible tragedy. In some way that most of us can't see, she recognized government as a threat more intensely than most of us. Her trip to Washington D.C. proved what she believed, that unarmed and travelling with nothing but a baby, government could perceive her as a major threat that had to be eliminated.

After this tragedy occurred, inside Congress, members of Congress stood to thank their private police force that "protected" them from an unarmed woman with a baby.

I ask you, who really is nuts here?

Friday, October 4, 2013

I am one who firmly believes that the difference between a genius and a totally crazed nutjob can sometimes be difficult to determine. A crazed nutjob holds views about reality different from ours, but so does a genius. That's one reason I think that full freedom should be given to all people, including crazed nutjobs, unless they plan violence on another. You just don't know when a crazed nutjob is really a genius that sees something in reality that the rest of just can't see. As Henry Davis Thoreau put it, "If a man does not keep pace with his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer. Let him step to the music which he hears, however measured or far away."

Which brings me to the case of Miriam Carey, who was gunned down by law enforcement on the streets of Washington D.C. after a car chase.

From reports, we know that Carey started acting strange after she fell, some time ago, and hurt her head. It seems as though some filter we must all have in our head to keep us relatively calm amongst an ever growing surveillance state was shut off in her mind.


+ + Eventually, they'll get everyone: serving the system does not make you a member of 'The Club.'

As Kelly Thomas' father, a former Orange County Sheriff's Deputy, found out the hard way, and others soon may find: just because you were in LE or military, does not make you or your loved ones immune from actions of aberrant corrupt cops in another town that you never 'served' in, or were ever part of its jurisdiction of. Or, hell: eventually in your own town, for that matter.

It could happen to you, after you retire (or, maybe even present day, on a lunch break out of your uniform), along with your wife, to your daughter, son, mother, father? Anyone is fair game once you allow evil behavior among civil servants to persist.

You have no choice: this pandemic of State-Actor Tyranny will mire 'one of your own,' someday, if you let it.

It could be when you decide to visit your once favorite vacation spot and drive too slow, or pausing in front of your childhood home indulging in momentary nostalgia: all it takes is one traffic stop excuse, or one phonecall from a nosy 'see something say something,' lunchmoney bully-acquiescent, vicarious-autho-ri-teh-loving neighbor; cops in those jurisdiction aren't gonna know when you travel into their town that you were 'once' a cop or military, or even care for that matter.

Just look around. It's all entropying...

YOU could be next.

But, don't have to be:
Oath Keepers Kick It Up a Notch: Going “Operational” by Forming Special “Civilization Preservation” Teams!



The first few minutes in the following CNN video basically asserts that (and the CNN pressitute tool "legal analyst" concurs): 'if you're in DC, and if the cops don't know who you are or what you have, they may can and WILL MURDER you!


Published on Oct 5, 2013
October 04, 2013 CNN

+ In the following clip, they're playing up the 'she was off her meds!'-angle; suppose even if they may want to spin that as: 'if you're NOT on a BigPharma meds, you may be a danger to society,' but that also confirms and inadvertently raises the questions as to whether SSRI's or other psychotropics contributed to a distinct shift in Miriam's behavior and even her personality:

Amy Carey, one of Miriam's Sisters: "My Sister Did NOT Deserve To Have Her Life Cut Down At Age 34!"

Published on Oct 5, 2013
October 04, 2013 CNN

+ Govt terrorists' default SOP: Deny, Hide, Obfuscate, Omit

Family NOT Allowed To See Body Or Daughter Of Young Mother Killed By DC Police

Published on Oct 5, 2013
October 05, 2013 CBC News

** Suppose, even if the MSM's spinning it while giving the issue a mere lipservice, at least the notion that Miriam's murder should be questioned, is now being debated publicly.

An okay-ish 1st step...


UPDATE 2: Michael Savage wakes up??

"Oh, so you're an 'Independent Fascist'?"

He 'gets' what this is truly all about:
"They killed an UNARMED woman! America died Yesterday!"

Michael Savage Rips Into Caller for Defending Capitol Police Gunning Down Unarmed Woman - 10/4/2013

Published on Oct 5, 2013
The Savage Nation.
Aired October 4, 2013.

+ His on again off again neoCon-ishness aside, on this? Big Ups Savage!!!

Predictions in due Time...

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul