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Jordan Maxwell: The Inner World Of The Occult - Watch This!

This movie is important to understanding where our politics and religion come from. The Zeitgeist movies were based on Jordan Maxwell's findings. A must watch for all libertarians.


http://youtu.be/DU3I0Pi6y_8

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They had a lot of time on their hands back then.

All the symbolism games they played reminds me of Dungeons and Dragons and Pokemon.

This seems notable:

William cooper debunks Jordan Maxwell:

Jordan Maxwell debunked by Benjamin Stanhope:

Jordan Maxwell debunked:




Mormons

Don't know if this helps clear things up, but the first founders of FM were hung/killed by the Mormon church leaders.

FM & Mormonism have overlapping rituals; the FMs didn't want their brotherhood to be bound to one religion (what later becomes freedom of religion)

Anyways...it was a whole pitchfork, lynching thing because the Mormons were peeved that they split off from the religious aspect.

I'm probably botching this horribly, but you get the gist. That's why sometimes you hear "Mormons are a cult" etc etc which they're not, it's like any other arbitrarily disciplined religion with customs--I mean, consider what the Pope wears, and you think FM aprons and Mormon's wanting clean carpet are weird? Sounds tidy to me. :)

In fact, the guys in FM encourage topics of conversation outside of religion/politics. Of course, this is just one example that I'm personally aware of. Who knows what other lodges are like--it's a global thing...

ridiculous.

FreeMasonry goes back to at least the Temple of Solomon & likely the Tower of Babel.

Brigham Young was a FreeMason.

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Nope.

Eventually, Mormons were "allowed" to be Freemasons; there are many Mormon/LDS Freemasons today and in recent history.

Lawman is right on this,

Lawman is right on this, Joseph Smith himself was a freemason.

As a side note, there is a massive Freemason temple right down the steet from the LDS world headquartes in SLC.

We all share this eternally evolving present moment- The past and future only exist as inconsequential mental fabrications.

I'm right about everything I said on this thread. Like it or not

Interesting Story...

Mountain Meadows Massacre

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mountain_Meadows_massacre

On Sept. 11, 1857, Mormons under orders of dictator Brigham Young attacked a wagon trail of hungry, vulnerable American settlers, passing through Utah territory.

Brigham Young was fighting with the US Government, and had previously ordered the attack of a group of US Soldiers patrolling the territory.

He ordered his men to dress up as local Native Americans, to blame the massacre on them, in both of these incidents.

After killing the wagon trail settlers, women and children too, another patrol of Soldiers came through, who were looking for the other group of Soldiers. Instead, they found the massacred remains of the settlers.

The Soldiers constructed a crude rock monument, by piling rocks to make a huge stone pyramid rock pile.

The next day, Brigham Yong heard about this, rode out to the spot of the massacre/monument. He arrived just before the sun set.

Brigham Young was so angered by the monument that the US Soldiers had built, that he "Put his arm at the Square" (a Masonic sign) and his men had the monument torn down, before the sun was fully set.

That's a story that further links Mormonism with Masonry/Knights Templar.

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Thank God Brigham Young is

Thank God Brigham Young is dead of old age.

Yup.

You said the founders of freemasonry were hung by Mormons.

What history books are you reading?

I just said Masonry goes back to Biblical times, or older.

So how were the founders of FreeMasonry hung by Mormons, when Mormonism wasn't started until the 1800s by Joseph Smith?

As I said... ridiculous.

Idiots and subversives can down vote all you like, but facts and logic prove I am right.

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Freemasonry roots

Go back to Nimrod, builders of the Tower of Babel, and the Catholic Church is the Church of Babylon.

Nimrod

I am gonna guess that dude does not have too many followers.

“Although it was the middle of winter, I finally realized that, within me, summer was inextinguishable.” — Albert Camus

Check out the Peter Joseph/

Check out the Peter Joseph/ Stefan Moleneux Debate from a couple weeks Ago. PJ gets schooled!

Unbeknownst to most these

Unbeknownst to most these days is the fact that there was a large occult movement in early America, which eventually turned into the "self-actualization" movement that became so many different splinter groups: http://www.amazon.com/Occult-America-Seances-Circles-History...

Of course, all religions are bunk, but it's an interesting insight into how things got to where they are now.

Good stuff

Very informative. Thanks

Jordanus Maximus er, I mean

Jordanus Maximus er, I mean Jordan Maxwell is thoroughly debunked here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKBCEBfIdCw

Anybody wants to hear something shorter from the same guy that made the debunking video, he has a short phone conversation on a radio show with Jordan Maxwell. Can be found here: http://conspiracyclothes.com/nowheretorun/ntr-my-conversatio... and starts, or at least the backstory of how the conversation happened starts, at 2:00 minutes.

More propaganda

Don't buy into that mainstream debunking propaganda. Open your mind.

Textbooks have all been scribed by the Rockefeller's. We have all been bamboozled.

Nothing is what you think it seems. JM is one your side, naysayers are not your friends.

Open your mind

Statism is good, liberty is evil. Naysayers are not your friends.

See I can use that kind of logic too.

Ron Paul - Intellectual hero

I like

Blavatsky...and I think Maxwell has made a lot of mistakes because he doens't understand the esoteric nature of symbolism. The debunking seems to focus on attacking Blavatsky. The "debunker" has no clue about esoteric symbols and it seems that he doesn't understand what Blavatsky wrote but for some reason hates her. I have a feeling that this guy is either a hardcore atheist or a hardcore religous guy. Both groups tend to have issues with esoteric figures like Blavatsky. Thanks anyway :)

http://youtu.be/C_IeZPchO5g

Man you have to tripping on acid to buy into this crap...

I never claimed to be an expert on occult symbolism, though I do know a thing or two, but I know Nazi $h!t when I see/ hear it.

This is where Hitler got his beliefs from.....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vril

http://black.greyfalcon.us/

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so you know nazi $hit when you see it...really?

do you really believe that I am a Nazi?
do you really believe that I am here to "infiltrate" dp?

Quote from Wiki:
"Paranoid thinking typically includes persecutory beliefs, or beliefs of conspiracy concerning a perceived threat towards oneself."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paranoia

why do i have to be tripping on acid if I believe in evolution... the video I posted is just about evolution..
The link you provided (greyfalcon) is not a reliable source but its right on one point:Hitler was into the occult, but this doesn't mean that occultism is the same as what the nazis believed. Anyway, pointless talking to you, you made your mind up and I can not change that believe.

You even admit that you are not an expert on that subject but you still will not change the way you think because you're way of thinking comes from a believe not from logic.

Yes, I absolutely beleive that. Paranoid? Blavatsky!!!

Go ahead, attack my character.

I pointed out just WHO Blavatsky was, and what she believed, and preached. All you can say is, "But I'm black", & "You're paranoid".

I admit I am not an expert, but I am light years ahead of you when it comes to honesty. And I would put my knowledge against yours any day. What I would consider an expert, would not include a black person who openly advocates for Aryan superiority.

GermanRPfan, spreading VRIL society, Nazi-occult propaganda, on a site known to be trolled by stormfront and other white supremacist groups...

Yeah, whatever you say buddy.

BlackFalcon.us or whatever is not credible? Says you. Puh-lease. Like one ridiculous occult site is more or less credible than another. Then please provide your favorite Aryan occult mysticism site, so that I can a proper perspective n Helena Blavatsky and her brilliant revelations. LOLOL! New Age/New World Order BS! No wonder you like Cloud Atlas!

Maybe YOU think YOU know more than you do, and I know more than your pride would ever be willing to admit?

Helena Blavatsky's occult mysticism influenced tremendously the Nazi religion (I'm sure you'll deny the Nazi's had their own religion, too). This lead directly to the persecution of Jews, and other "undesirables".

Try to deny it all you want, you aren't fooling me.

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Blavatsky? Didn't Hitler buy into her occultism? Or...?

Or was that someone else?

... Yes, it is her. VRIL Society.

GET THIS NEO-NAZI Occult BS off this American Liberty Site!
Or at least present is honestly, for what it is!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EnYTbNBt-M&feature=player_de...

Stay in Germany, Neo-Nazi "RP fan", we don't need this kind of infiltration and advocating for Nazi occultism in the liberty movement.

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not sure what to say

First: I am not a Nazi. I am Black! Please don't insult me!
Second: Blavatsky lived before the nazis. She had nothing to do with them. SOME nazis were deep into the occult, but that doesn't mean that Blavatsky created the Nazis. It's like trying to blame Jesus for the crusades. She hated violance and loved freedom.
Third: You call me Nazi and yet you tell me to stay in Germany? You think that I am a Nazi only because I am from Germany? Isn't that called prejudice? Wasn't that the problem that the nazis had? "Jews are evil" etc...
Fourth: Have you ever read a book from Blavatsky? Not what other people wrote about her....
Fith: How intelligent is it to believe that the liberty movement is an "american movement"?

If you believe in liberty you would respect the believes of other people...even if that believe is the occult...btw....occult is not evil. The christian church declared it evil a long time ago and since then a lot of christians believe that without questioning their own believes. Do you really know what occultists actually do?

I think you are either somebody who read something bad about occultistism and blavatsky and believes it without deeper research or you are a hardcore christian (I respect that). But if you want to trash something like blavatsky you should know something about that subject. the link you provided is total garbage. YES, I know about the Vril. A legenday myth from a book written in 1871 called:"The coming race". FICTION!

http://www.amazon.com/The-Coming-Race-Edward-Bulwer-Lytton/d...

If you don't want to buy that book for research you can read it here for free:
http://www.gasl.org/refbib/Bulwer__Coming_Race.pdf

Blavatsky used the word vril to describe a larger concept. In India this force (vril) is known as prana, in china it's known as chi.

I could go on and on...but to be honest, I don't think that you know anything about occultism or blavatsky, you just believe that blavatsky or occultism is evil...and it is a waste of time to argue over a believe. It's lilke trying to convert jehova's witnesses to islam. A fruitful discussion can only come if there is knowledge on both sides. You, my friend in liberty, are not educated about that subject. I know, you think you are, you see esoteric symbols and see the NWO everywhere, (I read you other posts) but all your "occult-knowledge" is based on a believe that this stuff is evil and you will not question that believe. Blind believes and liberty don't mix very well.

nice try

http://black.greyfalcon.us/newage.html

"In Hitler's words, Christianity "only added the seeds of decadence such as forgiveness, self=abnegation, weakness, false humility and the very denial of the evolutionary laws of survival of the fittest [social Darwinism]," and would obviously be a handicap to the new species which he was personally commissioned by the "masters" to see properly birthed and nurtured. But Hitler perceptively placed the ultimate blame where it is due:

Conscience is a Jewish invention. It is a blemish, like circumcision.... There is no such thing as truth, either in the moral or in the scientific sense. The new man would be the antithesis of the Jew.

Nietzsche likewise considered the Christian Bible nearly worthless because of its Jewish origin:

In Christianity, seen as the art of sacred lying, we're back with Judaism.... The Christian is but a Jew of more liberal persuasion.

~Antichrist

Compare with the NA view of how Judaism "defiled" Christianity.

In this context, antisemitism was not a starting point for the inner Nazi society as it was for the masses; Jew-hatred was the inevitable result of absorbing these bedrock occult teachings."

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impressive

so much garbage in one post...
again:greyfalcon is not a reliable source...it's BS.

Nazi, Luciferian, New Ager, New World Order..... same thing.

Blavatsky, Eckhart, Hitler and the Occult Nazi New World Order

http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/nazis_and_occ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJKKZRxL0fA&feature=player_de...

Down-voters... If you are NOT Neo-Nazis, click the links, and see for yourself just who Blavatsky is and her VRIL society is...

"The Coming Race" - LOL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTVP34SPJG4&feature=player_de...

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Of course NWO Nazi shill infiltraitors on DP are down-voting...

Isn't it obvious?!

Anyone who objectively studies history from a broad perspective can see what Blavatsky was and what her occult beliefs lead to...

Unbelievable this Evil occultism is getting positive play on DP.

Wake up freedom-loving Americans... This $h!t started WW2!

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are you

you just a religous nut or whats wrong with you? why don't accept that there are other believe-systems than christianity which are not evil?
let me tell you: I am a freemason, I am a german, I am into the occult, I go to church, I am a protestant...AND I am a liberty advocate, I am NOT evil, in fact, I earn my money by helping people, I am a psychotherapist. I would never harm a person, only if I had to defend myself or my family. I am living proof that you can be a good person AND still be into the occult. The problem is that you are PARANOID and you don't see it. Yes, thats my professional opinion. You seriously need therapy and should quit the internet until you can handle it, 'cause not everybody is here to get you or infiltrate the forums you use.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thought_disorder

I sincerly hope that you will be able to free yourself from the fear that has infested your mind and soul. I hope you will be better brother.

Helena Blavatsky's historical significance....

Helena Blavatsky's historical significance is directly related to Adolf Hitler, Dietrich Eckhart & the Nazi 3rd Reich.

To bring up Blavatsky and not present her New Age Aryan supremacist occultist ideology and association with Nazism is dishonest, and is not constructive.

It smacks of trying to slip Nazi occult ideology into the liberty movement. As I said, it well known that there are white supremacist groups such as stormfront that troll the dp. Germany was the home of Nazi occultism. Put it all together and I'm not paranoid, I'm being reasonably suspicious. Considering what your pushing, I'm actually being perceptive.

You could be a gov't agent trying to make the DP look racist, and like we promote Nazi (occult) ideology.
I can just see the liberals if they got ahold of this thread. Headline... "DailyPaul has Nazi Occult supporters"

BTW, Besides that benign little acid-trippy video of Blavatsky's face moving, have you heard any more of Blavatsky? How about clicking on some of the links I provided? Instead of attacking my credibility, how about debunking my sources?

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I am

sorry. I can not continue this pointless discussion. Everything I say will fuel your anger.

"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject".
Winston Churchill