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Jordan Maxwell: The Inner World Of The Occult - Watch This!

This movie is important to understanding where our politics and religion come from. The Zeitgeist movies were based on Jordan Maxwell's findings. A must watch for all libertarians.


http://youtu.be/DU3I0Pi6y_8




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Keep calling me crazy, paranoid, and a fanatic... Ad Hominem.

Ad Hominem is all you have.

You have NOT ONCE addressed the issue at hand, you've ONLY attacked MY credibility & sources! ClaSSic subversive tactic.

And your Neo-Nazi buddies are up-voting you and down-voting me.
I'd like to see you try to get away with pretending this is not Nazi propaganda, at just about any other venue.

This is a political site, you have to assume what you support and what you propose publicly to others, will be seen in a political light. Blavatsky's beliefs heavily influenced Nazi occultism. I believe there is a special n the Military Channel right now, on this very topic.

You clearly wont address my point, because you cannot do so honestly without admitting you knew Blavatsky was extremely influential in Nazi ideology.

I'd be happy to discuss Helena Blavatsky and (her) occultism in an objective fashion, but you must first admit her ties and influence on Nazi Germany and it's leadership.

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Seems like...

You were looking for an argument.

Maybe I was... Maybe you are. It's Nazi occultism, sup w/ that?

I'm not looking to make friends and play nice with every stranger on DP.

When I see Nazi propaganda, no matter how subtly slipped in, I will call it out. I have no problem with the posting of any information, so long as it is presented accurately, and with honest intent.

I asked the poster of that piece to admit Blavatsky's relationship with Nazi ideology, and he proceeded to tell me I was a crazy conspiracy coo-coo.

The down voters I received are being unreasonable, and are emotionally reacting to the tone & mood of my responses, but are ignorant of the facts that prove my case true.

I have every right, and am in the right, to be suspicious of Nazi, racial-superiority propaganda, even in the form of occult mysticism, when defending the principles of individuality and liberty, that are the very purpose for this American liberty movement. And yes, it is an American liberty movement. This is not a globalist movement, Ron Paul did not run for World President. Of course we support these principles for everyone around the world but we have to focus on America, and I'm not going to take an intellectual or spiritual backseat to some self-righteous German, Occult FreeMason, and his Nazi mystic idol.

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Perhaps...

If you think people are turned off by your method of speaking, maybe you should change it up.

I can already tell you one thing that turned me off: The content of your message is crowded. Perhaps try summarizing your ideas instead of writing a novel. Nobody has time to read all of this. And it's hilarious you wrote all those paragraphs in response to my one-liner.

J Maxwell

is not what he appears to be.

Zeigeist is full of garbage - with some truths mixed in.

Discernment is key to all this stuff - scripture, the law - you name it.

J Maxwell is spewing a lot of stuff that ought not to be taken seriously.

Ron Paul is My President

Hey y'all, in the immortal words of one Saint

Rodney King: can't we just all get along??


http://youtu.be/1sONfxPCTU0

Please, it hurts watching all my fave DP peeps arguing over what will ALWAYS be a contentuous topic that y'all know you're NEVER gonna be able to convince the other side of, in a million years.

Personally I care not what y'all believe as long as none of y'all seek to impose it on me, forcibly.

Just please remember that if you're here at DailyPaul already? It's BECAUSE you have far more in COMMON with each other, than not.

Please be kind to one another, especially on centuries old NEVER-resolvable, infinitely personal and delicate topics like one's own personal individual faiths and beliefs.

Thank you all. Now, back to chucking gravy at each other like evey normal dysfunctional American family at the Thanksgiving dinner table. Git!

AnCap Papa Bear, out.

XD

Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

f#$* zeitgeist

Actually not F ZG, F the ZG subscribers. I respect PJ and some of his ideas, but his followers ruin it for him. I don't agree with PJs path or end goal, but I respect the fact that he understands that what we have now is broken. But his followers don't even get what he is saying...They are all a bunch of big gov retards.

I disagree

you don't know what you are talking about

spoken like a ZGer. Make a statement and offer nothing

of substance other then ad-hominems to express your opinion.

Yup. It's just reformed New Ageism.

New World Order, big-time.

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Maxwell debunked by Bill Cooper

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Geje5Ncj__k

Remember, Bill Cooper was killed for predicting 9-11.

Maxwell was a close fried of Albert Pike's and his goal is to get you interested in the occult, not to expose it, but to lead people away from Christianity.

Bill Cooper interviews Jordan Maxwell

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cldRrghx_M

Thanks for posting

this JJ.

The Mystery Babylon series is excellent.

Ron Paul is My President

Huh?

Albert Pike died in 1891.

When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign: that the dunces are all in confederacy against him. ~J. Swift

Doh!

Yes, you are right. I meant to say Manly Hall, not Pike. Pike was in my mind from the previous post.

I really like Manley Palmer Hall.

I listen to his lectures sometimes before bed. Whats wrong with him? Just because hes a Freemason?

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Christianity

The biggest hoax ever created. And no Jordan Maxwell is not an occultist.

You're kidding right.

Nazi occultist New World Order shills on DP.

Disgusting.

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Is FreeMasonry inherently Luciferian?

http://www.dailypaul.com/295710/is-freemasonry-inherently-sa...

"On July 14th 1889, Albert Pike (Civil War General accused of war crimes, Grand Master Mason, & alleged founder of the Ku Klux Klan) issued instruction to the twenty-three Supreme Councils that gave a full exposition of his doctrines and beliefs. Pike stated: 'That which we must say to the crowd is- We worship a god, but it is the god one adores without superstition. To you Sovereign Grand Inspectors General, we say this, that you may repeat it to the Brethren of the 32nd, 31st, and 30th degrees- The Masonic religion should be, by all of us initiates of the high degrees, maintained in the purity of the Luciferian doctrine....Yes, Lucifer is god, and unfortunately, Adonay is also God." (Occult Theocracy, p.220-221)

According to Albert Pike's own writings, his goals were to create a Communist Russia, start WW1 and the League of Nations, to create Nazi Germany to start WW2 and create the UN and political Zionism, use that to start WW3 to wipe out Islam and Judaism. This leaves Christianity with no roots, to be pitted against atheism and nihilism. When the world has become desperate for order and something to believe in, the Order will reveal it's true agenda, and it's secret knowledge that Lucifer is (their) god.

Click the short but informative video posted above to hear Pike's own words.

The question I am wondering, is Masonry (the Craft) inherently Luciferian / Satanic, or is that only a later development, or a faction of Masonry popularized by Albert Pike, or someone else?

Can we have an intelligent discussion on this?

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You have to understand ...

... the perspective. It is NOT the perspective of Christians.

When a Christian hears that someone worships Lucifer, they automatically assume that the person is worshiping Satan, i.e. the Devil, i.e. evil forces.

But that is not the perspective of the Luciferians. What THEY think is that the Christian god is not the highest god. They do think the Christian god exists, and that is why they can claim they believe, but they think there is a HIGHER god, the "Light Bearer," which they call Lucifer. They think Satan is just a term used to describe chaos, not evil.

Most members of the Masonic lodges think it is a fun club, nothing more. They do not realize their dues go towards the higher level members who have bizarre ideology.

Masonry is not INHERENTLY Luciferian, as it was originally a club that journeymen could join to learn a trade during a time when you were either in the noble class, the serf class, or a slave. Becoming a tradesman was a way out for the non-nobles.

Masonry became infiltrated and corrupted by people who wanted to use it to build their power base, and some of them were into (are into) Luciferian ideology, in the sense that this Lucifer character is the highest of all gods.

That's my understanding of what THEY believe, even though I think it is ALL crap, and just a tool used to control the minds of others.

FAct of the matter is,

Christian's just have a skewed perspective.

The writers of revelations and peter have both attributed Lucifer (morning star/day star) to Jesus.

Where do you get off speaking for "Christians"? Unbelievable.

Correct if I'm wrong but haven't you said on DP that you're Muslim?

Even if you are Christian, how do think you know what each and every Christian's perspective on Masonry is, and that it is skewed?

Ridiculous.

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Actually

I was born into the Christian Orthodox faith and was able to discern the truth and move on. But I haven't stated anything that isn't contrary to fact. the name Lucifer was attributed to Jesus in the bible(peter and revelations).

You're right about this line...

"But I haven't stated anything that isn't contrary to fact."

That's right. What you've stated IS contrary to fact.

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What have I stated

contrary to fact! I'm waiting..

Your entire statement!

That "Christians have skewed perspective"

and that

"Revelations and Peter attributed Lucifer to Jesus" (or vice versa)

Please provide the line(s) in the Bible you believe equates Lucifer to Jesus, or vice versa!

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See what I mean about skewed perspective

you didn't even know the name was attributed to Jesus in the bible:

Here I'll even give you a Christian perspective on it:

http://sanctusvesania.hubpages.com/hub/Jesus-Christ-IS-the-T...

"Jesus Christ IS the TRUE lucifer (morning star, light bringer)"

I know of the quotes in which you refer...

But they DO NOT say what you're claiming.

"Jesus Christ is the TRUE Lucifer (morning star, light bringer)"

Please give me chapter / verse where that line specifically can be found. Every other line your link refers to you've taken out of context.

Yes, Yeshua is the Way, the LIGHT, and the Truth!

Lucifer / Satan is the Deceiver... and claims also to the light, that is a lie... The Masons worship this entity that promises light, but never delivers, known as Lucifer.

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I never stated they agree with my interpretation

just that they agree that Jesus is Lucifer and go on to rationalize it away by claiming one is the true Lucifer and the other as being the fake Lucifer. Though Isaiah 14:12 never claims that the pagan symbol(morning star) stood for anything positive. In fact the whole verse tears down the pagan symbol and concept, after all..its PAGAN.

Revelation 22:16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star (Lucifer).

2peter- 1:19 We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star(Lucifer) arise in your hearts:

Masonry goes back eons...

It is much older than you claim.

I understand Luciferianism, and have extensive knowledge, for a non-Mason, about Freemasonry.

Masonry, aka The Craft goes back to at least Solomon's Temple, and based on all accounts it was already an ancient Order by that time. Dating back to likely, pre-Egyptian empire. So... What are it's roots? You cannot tell me Freemasonry is not Luciferian if you do not know it's roots. I am not asking you to prove a negative. It can't be done. But it can be speculated on. And all evidence points to my thesis being true.

Placing another "god" named 'Lucifer' above the One and Only Almighty Lord G-d, is the very definition of Anti-Christian.

The 'Lucifer Charachter' you refer to, is indeed the Lucifer of the Bible.

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Once again ...

... you are viewing this Lucifer thing from YOUR perspective, and not from the perspective of the people who claim to believe it.

Yes of course, it is anti-Christian. But that is IRRELEVANT to what they think. It might be important to YOU that it is anti-Christian, but THEY DO NOT CARE about that (just like you do not care that Christianity is anti-Muslim).

Get it?

As far as freemasonry, what are the roots?