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Chris Matthews: Rand Paul Is "Becoming Part Of Washington World" and will be the GOP Nominee in 2016


Real Clear Politics: But I think Rand Paul is softening up around the edges. I read your piece, I think he's joining the club, if you will. Not in a negative way, but becoming part of the Washington world. He's not making enemies; he's making friends. I think he's the nominee next time, the way the wind's blowing. I think you were saying something like that in your paper.


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Could this be a 'dog whistle'

Could this be a 'dog whistle' to marshal the smear brigade?

The Rand shills....

are as bad as the GJ Kool-Aid drinkers. No criticism allowed, and they've all convinced themselves that he has a "secret plan."

I don't play, I commission the league.

This worries me.

Anytime the lamestream media says "he a team player" it's never a good thing for those of us who love liberty and freedom. They may be trying to use some reverse psychology here though and pretend to like him so they can set him up for the big letdown when Hillary comes on the scene.

2008 election year:

I have to tell you, you know, it’s part of reporting this case, this election, the feeling most people get when they hear Barack Obama’s speech. My, I felt this thrill going up my leg. I mean, I don’t have that too often. Chris Matthews

Sorry, I just can't get past that comment to ever, ever, listen to anything Matthews has to say.


The law cannot make a wicked person virtuous…God’s grace alone can accomplish such a thing.
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The act of voting is consent. The consent makes you accessory to crimes including mass murder, racketeering and crimes against humanity. You have put your name and signature on it.

Rand is a shill. The truth is gonna hurt. Go ahead and down vote. A rebuttal is acceptance of jurisdiction.

If voting solved problems. We wouldn't be in this mess. Do us all a favor and withdrawal consent to be governed.

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I have said.....

I have said all along that Rand is nobody's fool, and he is Ron Paul's son, not Ron Paul. Rand as needed, is playing the game when necessary. What other choice does he have??
But, as I have said as well...Rand is our Trojan Horse to the White House. Don't forget that or what Rand as most of us know him, really stands for!!


No single man in a house is going to be able to stop the machine. I don't care what color you paint it.

Your making claims of precognition. No one can tell the future and there is no way to know what any other person is going to do in a given situation.

People who seek power do so to use it for themselves. Positions of power always attract these people because it allows them to abuse power and that is what they seek.

I do not know Rand Paul other than he is Ron's son. Every family tree has a bad apple or two. In my experiences, Ron has been the exception and not the rule.

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High Five

If I could up-vote you a thousands times I would!

I've said this, will continue to say this, and will support Rand all the way to the White House.

Anyone to think otherwise, doesn't understand an honest family bond like the Paul's obviously have.

Rand is backwards...

Most politicians tell you what you want to hear to get elected, only to screw you once they get in.

Rand, on the other hand, says enough what the establishment wants to hear, so that he can get in, and once he's in, and has the power, he'll do what's right.

Yes, it's a little backwards, but I'm 100% behind him. He's way better at playing the game then Ron (who didn't play at all).

So, don't complain about "coy" and "sly" tactics, if it's what gets you in the door. If you can't read between the lines, then you'd better put your A game glasses on.

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Up-voted 1000Xs.

Up-voted 1000Xs.


"Rand, on the other hand, says enough what the establishment wants to hear, so that he can get in, and once he's in, and has the power, he'll do what's right."

The establishment must be pretty damn stupid if that's the case, since Rand's 'chess game', as many DPer's have come to call it, is constantly talked about by many of his more...shall we say "vocal" supporters.

For the most part I like Rand, but I'm not going to act as if he has some secret plan that only liberty-minded folks know about or whatever. It's putting faith in a politician, and I'm not a fan of neither faith nor politicians in general.

But hey, that's just me.

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Well what lucky good fortune for us! A few more MSM poles to prop this up and the tent is as good as down already. Hey GOP, it's a bit early but it's been decided. No need to go through any "process" this time unless you really miss the drunken parties and call girls.

I know. It's gonna be tough.

There is nothing strange about having a bar of soap in your right pocket, it's just what's happening.

This is the reason

I haven't been able to get on the Rand Paul wagon from the beginning. I'm glad others see it to (whether or not they consider his "playing the game" a good thing or a bad thing.) All the hope and faith in the world won't turn Rand into a national savior. I'm not trying to be negative, just realistic. Let the down-voting commence...

If Chris Matthew says that

If Chris Matthew says that Rand is becoming part of the Washington D.C machine, then you'd know Rand is not what the U.S need.

If people are putting hopes and dreams into Rand Paul the man, they're are not going to get what they hoped for.

Any real change is going to be bottom up, in your own district neighbors, city councils, and state sovereigns.

Whatever Chris Matthews says

Doesn't matter. He's not smarter than you or I and he doesn't have some political superpower. He is just paid to report on political trivia non-stop and even he would tell you that. Hopefully.


That's such a cop out. You don't need to think for yourself? Just think the opposite of Chris Mathews and you're good?

The real-world possibilities

The real-world possibilities are letting the government continue to grow like cancer or, changing it: from within or from without, by peaceful and legal modification, peaceful but ILlegal modification (such as passive resistance or election fraud), or overthrow.

If Rand (and other like-minded people) can change it (for the better) from within by peaceful and legal modification, it's a LOT better for all of us than the other possibilities.

Meanwhile, there's no reason that Rand making that effort needs to stop anyone else from trying something else. If you want to try, say, changing it from without by peaceful and legal modification, go right ahead.

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"Obama’s Economists: ‘Stimulus’ Has Cost $278,000 per Job."

That means: For each job "created or saved" about five were destroyed.

Rand isn’t ‘joining the club’

as much as he is raising the membership bar. He’s not as CM states, “making friends” as much as he is “winning” friends. This is no easy task as Rand isn’t ‘becoming’ part of the Washington world by just being likeable to which CM seems to allude; he is gaining respect via his leadership stances against the status quo.

By taking bold stances, Rand is remolding, not ‘becoming.’ He loudly protested drone killing of Americans a la his filibuster, he protested bombing Syria, opposed giving aid to Syrian rebels calling out their (Al-Qaeda and Al-Nusra Front) killing of Christians, he protested aid to Egypt even before Obama stopped giving military aid to Egypt, he immediately protested NSA’s overreach when the Snowden leaks came out (now working on a bipartisan effort to rein in NSA), and he was one of the first to protest NDAA. Neocons have stopped calling him a ‘wacko’ and civil libertarians on both the right and left are coming to his side. He is gaining support, not because he supports the Washington status quo but because he OPPOSES the establishment’s statist positions. If he is part of the Washington world, it is because he is demonstrating political courage while working within the system to effect change. Matthews minimizes the extent of Rand’s effectiveness as a new kind of leader instead of crediting him for eschewing the establishment’s entrenched platform. I view this as a typical MSM half-baked attempt to give props to Rand without giving him additional ammunition against the Dem 2016 nominee. It’s better than a propagandist’s dismissal, but it is a bit underhanded in the overall delivery.

Well, we have to hope ole

Well, we have to hope ole frothy does worse this time around.

To climb the mountain, you must believe you can.

If Matthews Gets A 'Warm Feeling' Down His Leg, Rand is In!

"STANDwithRAND" and get a warm feeling down your leg



Rand is certainly too cozy in Washington politics for my liking. A Chris Mathew endorsement is the end of Rand's relevance, in my mind, as far as liberty is concerned.

I am a big Cruz fan at this point. Chris Mathews just solidified my approval.

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Holy downvotes. Schill :)


Fancy seeing you here. I know. I leave for a few months, come back for a scheduled Rand bash (I don't trust him), and POWEE - negative eleven.

Cruz will one day excel...

at the job he might actually do better than any in history...

the job he was clearly born to do...

Senate Majority Leader

I like him.

He sounds more sincere than the son of the namesake of certain a Website.

Let the down-votes commence...

I like them both...

but sincerity? .................. Mike Lee! :D

you are for ted cruz...

yet ted cruz is married to goldman sachs.
rand is playing 3 sided chess and is genius,his father is perfect example that being a outsider gets you nowhere. if rand wants to have a real chance, he has the let them think he is one of them, and at same time still fight for liberty, which he is doing. he chooses his battles.
the government was slowly infiltrated with corruptions, now we slowly infiltrate with liberty, and its working! ted cruz now has less credibility than rand , but you don't know that!

Our founding fathers are rolling in their graves...the land of liberty needs a regime change!


Being an outsider, like Ron, got US everywhere. WHO DO YOU THINK WON IOWA? HELLO. Ron won Iowa. Cheating does not count when it comes to winning hearts and minds. Get over it - Rand got under the covers. Are we better off because of Rand right now, or Cruz? Rand is a pussy. We are all better off right now because of Cruz. Did Rand stop domestic drones? - NO! Did Cruz stop the individual mandate - YES!

Sorry you got shouted at for the eleven brain-washed down-votes I received, but hey, you were brave enough to challenge me. I gave you an up-vote for that.

Now quit down-playing the success of the one and only Ron Paul. We would not be sitting here arguing if it was not for that indefatigably courageous and intelligent gentleman. Please give credit where credit is due.

no again..

It got him nowhere...where is the presidency?? The establishment won again because Ron Paul was to extreme for the brainwashed sheep and this made it easy for the presstitutes and the establishment to marginalize him!
You say rand is a pussy yet his father clearly said: I don't know why people try to drive a wedge between me and rand , because we agree on 99% of the issues! So Ron is a pussy as well?

We all love Dr. Paul for his non compromising ways, but there is to many idiots out there that don't get it! Rand is taking a different approach and its genius! He is beating them at their own game, and choosing his battles. For someone on DP you sure are close minded!

A lot of people think Ron paul gave up to easy at the End and didn't try hard enough. they say he whimped out. but we know better, he couldn't win with the system we have now, there was no way! they have a grip on everything! Ron Paul woke up a lot of people, and now Rand is infiltrating from the inside with his own approach! So again, Ron mostly agrees with Rand, and he is the best horse in the race for liberty, and Ron agrees with him. So keep slamming Rand and be clueless, and see where it gets you.

Our founding fathers are rolling in their graves...the land of liberty needs a regime change!

If you think winning the

If you think winning the presidency is ultimate goal than good luck with that.