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28%: Republican Party's Favorability Plummets To Record Low

Gallup: WASHINGTON, D.C. -- With the Republican-controlled House of Representatives engaged in a tense, government-shuttering budgetary standoff against a Democratic president and Senate, the Republican Party is now viewed favorably by 28% of Americans, down from 38% in September. This is the lowest favorable rating measured for either party since Gallup began asking this question in 1992.

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The Affordable Care Act

The Affordable Care Act (Obamacare) was PASSED by the SENATE & HOUSE, and signed into LAW by the PRESIDENT in 2010.

The Affordable Care Act was challenged in court and declared CONSTITUTIONAL by the SUPREME COURT in 2012.

The Affordable Care Act came into effect in 2013 and is unaffected by the budget shutdown is it has already been FUNDED.

Like it or now, the ACA passed the full rigor and test mechanism set up by the founding fathers for any bill that hopes to become law and succeeded.

The only thing the current shutdown is going to accomplish is cripple the US economy and create uncertainty in the world wide economy similar to 2007/2008.

The GOP already crippled their own party, now they want to cripple the entire country.

"Lighthouses are more useful than churches."- Ben Franklin
"Religious bondage shackles and debilitates the mind and unfits it for every noble enterprise."- James Madison

full rigor and test mechanism of founders

lol. What nonsense. It is as unconstitutional as hell. How can the Fed tax me to do anything, or not to do anything and this still be a free country? Now the feds can use the tax code to force anyone to do anything. That is constitutional?

Words have meanings, and

Words have meanings, and legal word very precise and well understood meanings.

It is constitutional by DEFINITION. Sorry for stating facts, but it is the job of the Supreme Court to test the law, it tested it, and it passed. While you can claim it's not constitutional because of this and that, it does not make it true, nor does it invalidate the supreme court ruling.

As an example: I, for one, completely disagree with the SCOTUS on its 'Citizens United' ruling that allows big business and big money to bankroll candidates. However, calling it 'unconstitutional' would be incorrect by definition. I can, however, call it undemocratic as it unproportionally favors certain demographics over others.

Just because a ruling is constitutional, doesn't make it right, just like just because something is law or tradition, does not make it right.

"Lighthouses are more useful than churches."- Ben Franklin
"Religious bondage shackles and debilitates the mind and unfits it for every noble enterprise."- James Madison

You have lost the forrest for the trees.

A government that can punitively tax you to do as they wish is an all powerful government. I don't believe all powerful government is constitutional.

You seem to place a lot of weight on a bizarre last second flip by one justice who didn't even have time to properly edit out the decision he had already written taking the opposite position.

John Roberts has been compromised. His betrayal doesn't determine what is or is not constitutional.

Your belief on what is and is

Your belief on what is and is not constitutional is irrelevant. The constitution never once makes the claim as to what size of government is the proper allowed size.

The supreme court decisions are decided as a body. The decision was to allow the ACA to pass, sorry, but that's how our constitution dictates that our law be verified. If you don't like it, amend the constitution.

"Lighthouses are more useful than churches."- Ben Franklin
"Religious bondage shackles and debilitates the mind and unfits it for every noble enterprise."- James Madison

The constitution enumerates specific federal powers

According to the tenth amendment, all powers not delegated to the Federal government and not prohibited to the States, are reserved to the States and the People respectively. This simply means that if the Constitution doesn’t give the Federal government the power to do something, it cannot legally do it and these powers are then deferred to the States and People respectively.

That's doublethink

Supreme court rulings are not constitutional "by definition". The Constitution has to be amended for something to be consitutional "by definition".

The scotus rules and everything else is thrown out? We've always been at war with Eurasia?

Wrong. A law can fall under a

Wrong. A law can fall under a provision that is already in the constitution, not every law needs it own amendment. If the supreme court finds that a law works within the confines set in our constitution, the law is then legal. This is the case with the ACA.

Also, SCOTUS decision are not final, they can be challenged.

Seems for some people our government IS Eurasia, because government is ALWAYS evil and bad, right?

"Lighthouses are more useful than churches."- Ben Franklin
"Religious bondage shackles and debilitates the mind and unfits it for every noble enterprise."- James Madison

What can you point to in the

Constitution that affirms the Federal Government has authority to force individuals to purchase insurance, or suffer penalty of arbitrary taxation (moving percentage of income)?

I think you didn't understand the doublethink reference.

The Constitution specifically enumerates federal power. All else falls to the states and people. Regardless of whether the court affirms law that contradicts the authorities granted by the Constitution, it is unconstitutional. A previous decision, Marbury vs. Madison (1803), says such laws are null and void.

The ruling that the IRS can impose a tax penalty for non-possession of health insurance is so legally bizarre it has no precedent, and there is literally no way to analyze it, but laughter (or groaning). Look, a blue zebra! An upside down island!

It's not about government being good or evil, it's about sound legal reasoning following from a lawful foundation, which was designed to protect and preserve the liberty of the individual.

As they should

Looked at your 401(k) since this started? No, because it's all in physical gold. But the vast majority live in the regular economy. If we default who knows what will happen but a fear of serious negative economic consequences is hardly irrational. Not everyone wants global catastrophe needed to set off revolution against Zionist central bankers. Most want to go to work and take care of their families with some degree of security for the future.

The same is true of most corporations and business. They have already factored in the adjustments for Obamacare. The economic uncertainty and risk far outweighs whatever cost or inconvenience imposed by the law.

Don't get me wrong. Obamacare sucks. But global economic chaos sucks even worse.

The silver lining to me is the republicans have really screwed the pooch this time. Hopefully irredeemably.

Thetis

Really???

I have a 401K, only because of the employer match, but anyway...
Mine is actually UP!!!
Yours should be as well.
Unless you bailed after a couple of down days, the market rebound when meetings started more than made up for the losses.

I'm betting you're one of the people who buy into a 401K and never make any changes, just let it sit there.

Long term investing doesn't mean never make adjustments.

Oh and for me Obamacare sucks more than anything.
Economically anyway.
I don't have insurance because I can't afford it($360 per month from employer) AND I WORK IN MASS. Rates have skyrocketed since Romneycare.

Under Obamacare my rates stay the same. I will certainly not be able to afford my mortgage and maintenance on my house any longer. :(

I highly doubt a government default on debt payments will happen

any time soon.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics-live/liveb...

The real default is unfolding quietly in the form of inflation.

There will be no default.

And these posters are just naive.

The government shutdown hasn't done squat. Obamcare is an abomination. And the "American People" are retarded. Let the stupid fockers vote in a democratic congress. They will all be on food stamps by 2016. Then the Tea Party Republicans will have the last laugh.

When someone starts their post by claiming there is nothing to fear with Obamacare, just stop reading. Its just another socialist plant, just another imbecile, like all the imbeciles who have come and gone while the debt had grown to 17 trillion and unfunded liabilities have topped 100,000,000,000,000.

Yea. Lets just proceed with business as usual. That will work out real well.

This is the first good thing the Republicans have done in 50 years. I say, take it to the end. Let Obama choose between default and negotiation. Screw the polls. The "people" have no clue what is coming their way.

Remember, not one person has paid the Obamacare fine yet. Only a handful have been able to get on that funky website. Until the "people" are actually covered in Obamacare stink, the polls are worthless.

Its time the patriots in Washington go on record. It is time they fight. And if they are voted out, then they can leave with head held high. And God help those who replace them.

And thanks for the link. Quoting from Moody's memo ...

" We believe the government would continue to pay interest and principal on its debt even in the event that the debt limit is not raised, leaving its creditworthiness intact,” the memo says. “The debt limit restricts government expenditures to the amount of its incoming revenues; it does not prohibit the government from servicing its debt. There is no direct connection between the debt limit (actually the exhaustion of the Treasury’s extraordinary measures to raise funds) and a default."

OH MY GOD NO!!! LIVING WITHIN OUR MEANS FOR A FEW DAYS OR WEEKS IS INCOMPREHENSIBLE!!!!