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Obamacare allows govt. to link your IP address with your name SS number bank accounts & web surfing habits

(NaturalNews) We have already established that Healthcare.gov is not a functioning database application that allows people to shop for competing health plans. It is actually a government-run Trojan Horse that suckers people into creating accounts where they hand over:

• Name and address
• Email address and password
• Social security number
• Private bank account details
• Employer details and other information

During the enrollment process, your computer also hands over your IP address which is then tied to your social security number.

This IP address is then handed over to the NSA thanks to its new mega-black-hole data center in Utah, where your IP is cross-referenced with all website visits, including:

• "Anti-government" websites
• Porn sites
• Gambling sites
• File sharing sites
• "Terrorism" support sites
• Encryption service sites like Hushmail
• Chat rooms, message boards and more

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Two words

"Tracking cookies" We can thank Google for this technology. It probably stays logged in as a subroutine in the background for days or longer just like Google does until you "log out" of it. Those on a high speed connection would never notice. But folks like me on dial up would notice right away that it was "Dragging" and something "extra" was running. Check your processes real well after going to the site. Best advice I have heard yet is to set a restore point before going there and then restore back to that point after visiting the site.

If I disappear from a discussion please forgive me. My 24-7 business requires me to split mid-sentence to serve them. I am not ducking out, I will be back later to catch up.

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Not more Natural News

That site has been so wrong about everything I don't see how anyone takes seriously anything it produces

Ditto for international flight reservations and other things

Airlines hand over this information for all US bound travelers as well as those who are crossing US airspace.

I'm sure a lot of people are filing their taxes online, which would do it as well. US ISPs are also probably just feeding NSA their subscriber information and IP address assignments anyway.

Various parts of the government have a database mapping our identities to the IP addresses we've used, fed by various sources. All that is probably fed into NSA as well.

No shock here.

That said, good on Natural News for using the Obamacare controversy to point this out to those who don't yet realize how tracked we are.

Just so you all know...

Most of you don't have the same IP today that you'll have next week... You can't link an IP to Obamacare unless your ISP does so for them. To do that, they'd have to associate the MAC address of your modem with the IP which their DHCP server hands you when your DHCP lease expires. This is easy as it will be in the ARP table. However, they'd then have to populate the Obamacare database with that new IP each time it changes.

The easy way to say it is... Natural News is full of shit.

Unless you're on dialup or a

Unless you're on dialup or a VPN, you'll likely have the same IP. All sorts of website tracking tools are available to track users.

Your ISP is not out to protect your privacy.

“Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it’s realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy.”
― Ron Paul

Dialup or VPN?

Huh? You'll need to explain that to me. Dialup could (probably wouldn't) have a DCHP reservation or static IP. A VPN will use the IP of whichever network you're tunneled to assuming you're using the VPN connection as your default route.

Your ISP doesn't have to be out to protect your privacy for that article to be a hoax.

http://www.cerias.purdue.edu/

http://www.cerias.purdue.edu/site/education/k-12/cerias_reso...

As far as VPN, you can connect to a different IP/location each time you log on if you'd like. You can set it up to change every few minutes too.

“Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it’s realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy.”
― Ron Paul

fun

Your link to the knowledges of the interwebs was amusing. :)

Broadband doesn't mean you have a static IP. You can get those, but with Comcast for instance, you need a bushiness line and $10 more a month.

Also, DSL and T1 lines are basically dialup and you can still have static IP's with those. If you have a T1 or some kind of bonded T1, you probably have paid for a static IP to host web servers, email, vpn's, whatever.

Your description of a VPN is not exactly what a VPN is. That's a VPN service which lets you send your internet traffic out of their routers so your public IP isn't exposed. Your using a VPN connection to connect to their network, which has any number of public IP's for you to send traffic out of. The VPN itself isn't what's changing your IP.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_private_network

Sorry to harp on it.

Most people with

"Most of you don't have the same IP today that you'll have next week..."

Incorrect. Most people with broadband are assigned a static IP. I've had the same IP for over a year. Everyone I know on cable has the same IP daily.

"You can't link an IP to Obamacare unless your ISP does so for them"

Soooooooooooo....you don't believe every website has tracking capabilities that identify web users? You don't think when you check out on Amazon, they haven't recorded your IP? Thanks for the laugh

By the way, I know what a VPN does. Thanks anyhow.

“Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it’s realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy.”
― Ron Paul

lol you check the IP of

lol you check the IP of everyone you know daily? What did you install to their PC's to be able to do this?

https://getsatisfaction.com/comcast/topics/can_i_get_a_stati...

"Static IP's are only given to business accounts; all residential online service accounts have dynamic IP's.

Sherri C
Comcast Digital Media Outreach"

Did I say I checked with

Did I say I checked with people daily or people have told me their IP stays the same on a daily basis?

Doesn't matter if the ISP technically assigns the account as 'static' or 'dynamic'. They are still STICKY IP'S...

"A sticky dynamic IP address is an informal term used by cable and DSL Internet access subscribers to describe a dynamically assigned IP address which seldom changes".

“Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it’s realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy.”
― Ron Paul

Bugs in the machine's picture

Seldom...

Seldom is correct, but seldom does not equal static. Yes, most folks that are on broadband are technically using DHCP, and those that keep their router or modem powered up (who doesn't?) will seldom see their WAN IP change, but it does happen on occasion. If service is disrupted or your power goes out, it's almost a guarantee that your IP will change when it comes back up. But it's also likely that the pool of IP addresses your ISP-facing device is drawing from is relatively small; small enough to correlate to a geographical area like a zip code.

By claiming there is no conspiracy, you prove to those who believe in the conspiracy that you are part of the conspiracy.

I turned off my modem last

I turned off my modem last night and powered it back up a little while ago. SAME IP.

Bottom line...MOST people are logging onto the internet every day under the same IP. This IP is tracked by merchants, big brother, and other interested parties. When you buy products online, your IP is tagged and it's usually even listed on your order confirmation page. If you're doing nefarious activities online, they can easily track you. The theory posted several comments up that we can't be tracked because of our ever-changing IP addresses...is ridiculous. Of course they can.

“Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it’s realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy.”
― Ron Paul

Sorry man

But its fairly obvious that you're in unsure waters for yourself.

Yes, you can know the IP of someone when they visit your web page. That's easy since the web page wouldn't be able to respond to you if it didn't know your IP.

But your IP is not an ID badge. It can and does change. Maybe next week, like I said, was a little faster that actual but possibly tomorrow, you'll get assigned a new IP. Hell, maybe today.

The reason your IP didn't change last night is because of a DHCP lease. You keep the same IP for the duration of the lease.

And who is "they" that can easily track you? Again, you're unsure of what you're talking about here. I didn't say you can't be tracked at all. I said that to do so would require the ISP (or malware on your PC) to update the obamacare database with your new IP every time it changes. It's similar to how a Dynamic DNS updater works. Let's say you sign up for dyndns.com's service. Every time your IP changes, it updates your DNS records with your new IP so that internet traffic can find you by URL. You can't host a web server at your home without one of these services because your DNS record would become incorrect frequently. You'd have to manually check your IP and update your records, which takes 2-72 hours to propagate through the interweb's publicly available DNS servers.

The notion that when you visit the obamacare websites allows them to track you by your IP is dumb since by the time they care to look, it could have easily changed.

The reason sites can track you is because of "tracking cookies", not because your IP is static. Want to stop it? Set your browser to clear cookies on exiting. Or just clear them yourself. Or don't allow them to be installed in the first place.

And just so you know... some people (my clients, including military contractors, international treaty orgs and international manufacturers) consider me to be an expert. That's why I get to eat every day. The truth is, to experts, I'm pretty good. To amateurs, I'm a total wizard.

I'm not trying to sell you a load of shit like the naturalnews site is.

Maybe it depends on the ISP?

In a more-paranoid-than-usual period I tracked my own IP address. I wrote a script to log it to a file periodically. Over a period of months it never changed. In fact, I couldn't find a way to make it change. Cycling power on the DSL modem, router and computer didn't do it. The "renew DHCP lease" button didn't do it. It was a large ISP in a large city, vanilla consumer DSL kind of account, not static IP.

It's good that people are becoming more aware of how information about them gets out, such as their IP address, but I agree with you that the IP address alone is an unreliable means of tracking users. Sometimes it's surprisingly stable, but it does change (it's not nearly so stable with my current ISP) and if you have a laptop or other device that you use with various wifi hotspots then it's changing frequently. It's unreliable enough that, as you say, most web sites that try to track you are using cookies rather than IP addresses.

Not only is the IP address unreliable, it doesn't correspond to just one user -- if you multiple machines all connecting via the same router (wired or wifi) and/or multiple users who share one machine, they'll all be seen at the same IP address by web servers. But cookies work to differentiate users, on multiple machines or on different machines. Another reason that cookies are the preferred way to track you.

If anyone is really worried about it, they could use Tor, or go to a public wifi hotspot you never use for anything else (and reset the browser, clearing cookies and everything else, before you do).

it could depend

It's really up to the network engineers who setup the ISP. My guess is, if you release your IP, let it sit powered down for a while, someone else will get your old IP and you'll get a new one.

sorry man.... I didn't even

sorry man....

I didn't even bother reading what you wrote. I could really care less. feel free to believe whatever you'd like.

All the best to you.

“Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it’s realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy.”
― Ron Paul

lol

yeah right. you just know you're full of it. :)

No, I know you're full of it.

No, I know you're full of it. Since there is no way you believe what I say, and I damn sure have no use for anything you are saying...it's best we agree to disagree and move on.

“Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it’s realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy.”
― Ron Paul

Thought you weren't reading?

I won't believe what you say because you don't know what you're talking about. I know you don't know what you're talking about because I know what I'm talking about.

Nothing personal. If I came to your job and pretended to know how to do it, would you believe me?

Let me know when you're ready

Let me know when you're ready to move on.

“Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it’s realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy.”
― Ron Paul

you should read my post

You might understand this better.

edit: why'd you delete your whole post? runaway...

lol...no thanks. All the

lol...no thanks. All the best.

“Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it’s realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy.”
― Ron Paul

np senior

in high school :)

hmm

Natural News is full of shit?

Yet it broke out so many Big Brother news to the public?
Hmm... that is why you hate it so much?

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Yes

They are full of shit. That is why I dislike it.

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