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On the DP Watch List: Patriot Act author prepares bill to put NSA bulk collection 'out of business'

Exclusive: Bipartisan bill pulls together existing efforts to dramatically reform the NSA in the wake of Snowden disclosures

Dan Roberts in Washington
theguardian.com, Thursday 10 October 2013 15.37 EDT

The conservative Republican who co-authored America's Patriot Act is preparing to unveil bipartisan legislation that would dramatically curtail the domestic surveillance powers it gives to intelligence agencies.

Congressman Jim Sensenbrenner, who worked with president George W Bush to give more power to US intelligence agencies after the September 11 terrorist attacks, said the intelligence community had misused those powers by collecting telephone records on all Americans, and claimed it was time "to put their metadata program out of business".

His imminent bill in the House of Representatives is expected to be matched by a similar proposal from Senate judiciary committee chair Patrick Leahy, a Democrat. It pulls together existing congressional efforts to reform the National Security Agency in the wake of disclosures by whistleblower Edward Snowden.

Sensenbrenner has called his bill the Uniting and Strengthening America by Fulfilling Rights and Ending Eavesdropping, Dragnet-Collection, and Online Monitoring Act – or USA Freedom Act, and a draft seen by the Guardian has four broad aims.

It seeks to limit the collection of phone records to known terrorist suspects; to end "secret laws" by making courts disclose surveillance policies; to create a special court advocate to represent privacy interests; and to allow companies to disclose how many requests for users' information they receive from the USA. The bill also tightens up language governing overseas surveillance to remove a loophole which it has been abused to target internet and email activities of Americans.

Many lawmakers have agreed that some new legislation is required in the wake of the collapse in public trust that followed Snowden's disclosures, which revealed how the NSA was collecting bulk records of all US phone calls in order to sift out potential terrorist targets.

In July, a temporary measure to defund the NSA bulk collection programme was narrowly defeated in a 217 to 205 vote in the House, but Sensenbrenner said the appetite for greater privacy protections had only grown since.

"Opinions have hardened with the revelations over the summer, particularly the inspector general's report that there were thousands of violations of regulations, and the disclosure that NSA employees were spying on their spouses or significant others, which was very chilling," he told the Guardian in an interview.

Please read more from the Guardian here:
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/oct/10/nsa-surveillanc...



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More "laws" from DC? Just shut off water that cools data center

I like Michael Boldon's take. He says the Utah data center needs 1.7 million gallons of water a day to keep the super computers cool, and that this water is supplied by contracts with local "government authorities". Take over local government and shut down the flow of water.

http://Archives2013.gcnlive.com/Archives2013/oct13/AlexJones...

A lot easier to let the genie OUT of the bottle than to contain

it again.

Government is not going to give this up easily.

Woo Hoo!

Maybe it will pass this time. It would be really good if it actually got the job done.

We just need to find loopholes in the bills.

Make sure they aren't meant to pretend to do what they are said to do.

Is this bill also 1000s of

Is this bill also 1000s of pages longer than any mere mortal can read and understand?

IMO

This encouraging news would argue against those criticisms which say that heroes like Snowden or Assange have no impact.

Rock on, truth seekers!

They have impact

Entertainment is impact, the guardian is making a bundle flaming covering these never ending adventures of fabricated conspiracy as the world turns, from what is to what will be.. and what will be is anyone's guess who connects dots past the entertainment aspect of information on YouTube.

The guy who authors the unconstitutional/ global government UN compliant Patriot Act, now is going to further align the USA into global government.. as first, they break it.. as they broke the NSA by over extending it's bounds, die to the Patriot Act, and now instread of havinga NATIONAL Security, we'll have an international one with the UN, foreign troops, over here.

And that's what some of us, who really really like good conspiracy theory, and appreciate facts, and go beyond the entertainment aspect, while considering the source, witness announements like this, that we were correct about why folks like Assage and Snowden were such big entertainment, as BOTH are entangled in other governments, the UK, China, Russia and Germany/Brazil, making them by their actions, not words, actions globalists.. they are part of breaking the nation/constitution and why they are not heros to those lile me who see them as entertainers just doing their jobs.

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"..folks like Assage and Snowden were such big entertainment, as BOTH are entangled in other governments, the UK, China, Russia and Germany/Brazil, making them by their actions, not words, actions globalists.. they are part of breaking the nation/constitution"

I appreciate your skepticism, Granger but until some kind of evidence is produced which supports your claim (ie. in contrast to interviews where ES & JA directly state their motives against impositional espionage or unjust wars), I do not draw the same conclusion

like what?

Snowden is not entangled with UK MSM The Guardian, under Greenwald a resident of Brazil" Snowden did run to Hong Kong before he went to Russia, and wasn't the preident of Paraguay involved because of a detained flight? Isn't this global news?

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1) "Snowden is not entangled with UK MSM The Guardian, under Greenwald a resident of Brazil"

Assuming this to be a critical query, Greenwald is an American citizen who firstly stated that he accepted employment with the Guardian as an "opportunity to reach a new audience, to further internationalize my readership, and to be re-invigorated by a different environment"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glenn_Greenwald

Greenwald then moved to Brazil so as to live with his intimate significant-other, where homosexual marriage is legally permitted
http://www.advocate.com/politics/2013/06/11/glenn-greenwald-...

Snowden later reportedly contacted Greenwald as entrusted journalist, based upon their mutual beliefs of free agency in a civil society
http://www.haaretz.com/weekend/magazine/.premium-1.547506

2) "Snowden did run to Hong Kong before he went to Russia”

Snowden explained his choice of Hong Kong as being a means of self-protection from unprincipled extradition: “NSA employees must declare their foreign travel 30 days in advance and are monitored. There was a distinct possibility I would be interdicted en route, so I had to travel with no advance booking to a country with the cultural and legal framework to allow me to work without being immediately detained. Hong Kong provided that. Iceland could be pushed harder, quicker, before the public could have a chance to make their feelings known, and I would not put that past the current U.S. administration”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Snowden

3) "wasn't the preident of Paraguay involved because of a detained flight?”

Actually it was the President of Bolivia who contended being grounded against his wishes
http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/04/world/americas/bolivia-morales...

4) "Isn't this global news?”

Newsworthy perhaps, but I don’t believe relevant to indicting Snowden or Assange as anti-American conspirators

Snowden similarly said, "If I had just wanted to harm the US? You could shut down the surveillance system in an afternoon. But that's not my intention. I think for anyone making that argument they need to think, if they were in my position and you live a privileged life, you're living in Hawaii, in paradise, and making a ton of money, 'What would it take you to leave everything behind?'"

.. "I think that the public is owed an explanation of the motivations behind the people who make these disclosures that are outside of the democratic model. When you are subverting the power of government that's a fundamentally dangerous thing to democracy and if you do that in secret consistently as the government does when it wants to benefit from a secret action that it took. It'll kind of give its officials a mandate to go, 'Hey tell the press about this thing and that thing so the public is on our side.' But they rarely, if ever, do that when an abuse occurs. That falls to individual citizens but they're typically maligned. It becomes a thing of 'These people are against the country. They're against the government' but I'm not."

"I'm no different from anybody else. I don't have special skills. I'm just another guy who sits there day to day in the office, watches what's happening and goes, 'This is something that's not our place to decide, the public needs to decide whether these programs and policies are right or wrong.' And I'm willing to go on the record to defend the authenticity of them and say, 'I didn't change these, I didn't modify the story. This is the truth; this is what's happening. You should decide whether we need to be doing this.'"
http://www.policymic.com/articles/47355/edward-snowden-inter...

Are they entangled in other nations?

yes.

Perhaps

but may I ask where you believe circumstance and motive are dissociated?

Sure

I believe Snowden, Greenwald, The Gardian, Russia are not organic, but part of the destruction of the NSA (with other inside help besides Snowden.. he's the "poster boy", to give us a GSA (Global Security Act).. you see, what's needed, is for Americans to not want to be American, to be ashamed, and angry, doubt, to not care, or to care so much they begin to hate, despise, rebuke and reject Federal, State, and local governments.

Ben Franklin claimed we have a Republic for as long as we can keep it.

Global government brought to us by global bankers through a UN Agenda. NSA needs to go global, and to go global they need to break NSA, and to break NSA they have to have we the people behind it.. so when the Guardian (a left wing NWO propegandist) has a reporter, a former attorney, living in Brazil, and he gets the lead on this.. The story is not going to go anywhere.. Snowden gets an award.. wow.. but what has Snowden told us that we didn't know? Sure, not everybody knew, and still, not everybody knows or cares, they have other issues, and reasons to not trust the government.

I don't post much about nine eleven because it's another of those never ending stories that accomplishes one thing, negative feelings about government.

By comparison to mist governments we're still better off, and it's worth redeeming rather than trading in for a global trans Jordan, West bank, Gaza.. Suadi Arabia, Bangladesh, Cambodia, Mexico, Pakistan.. Malala is my hero. She wants to change Pakistan, where Snowden wants to change the world, to global government, and why he is in Russia, who doesn't respect Snowden, because he is a theif for starters.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3juTAO0pZ0

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1) "Snowden wants to change the world.. to global government"

I recognize your concern about global governance, although such a claim appears to be unfounded in the face of ES's testimony
Ex. "(Telling the press) falls to individual citizens but they're typically maligned. It becomes a thing of 'These people are against the country. They're against the government' but I'm not"
http://www.policymic.com/mobile/articles/47355/edward-snowde...

2) "Snowden.. is a theif"

It appears that we disagree about publicizing the purloined privacy of innocent citizens

Or maybe we disagree about what is innocent?

I had this thought once, maybe when cutting up a shark, "Nothing with teeth is innocent".

I went to court trials in 1997 in seven counties in CA for friends that worked on Prop 215, medical marijuana, and when it passed opened shops, and the shops were put out of business with my friends being charged, arrested, and imprisioned. These trials assured me, there is no privacy. Snowden didn't reveal anything to me or anyone who has been aware there is a war on drugs that expanded to everyone with the Patriot Acts. We've been talking about this on DP since I can remember.. rfids, smart meters, gps, google, facebook, ebay, phone carriers, mail, ss and all these government departments..banks.. tracking, tracking, tracking.. some say Snowden confirmed that (the court cases I saw confirmed that). Privacy isn't free.

about your link: Oops! This link appears to be broken.

I like what the guy at 1:36 says in the vid I shared.

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I1) I define innocence as distilled conscience

II1) "Nothing with teeth is innocent"

Partial disagreement: animals must survive and I do not blame a shark's incisors when having naturally earned a meal

2) "Snowden didn't reveal anything to me or anyone who has been aware there is a war on drugs that expanded to everyone with the Patriot Acts.."

Perhaps so but in my view, the virtue of conscientious agency remains as a principled guide for ethical conduct

3) "Privacy isn't free"

It should be in principle, and that again is why I commend ES

4) "This link appears to be broken"

Sorry. Please try
http://www.policymic.com/mobile/articles/47355/edward-snowde...

5) "I like what the guy at 1:36 says in the vid I shared"

I do not necessarily agree, particularly because ES has not been criminally convicted in a civil trial

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Funny, I would think of innocent as undistilled.. pure.

We all must survive, eh?

Most people who did not agree with their employer would quit, not steal property and then run.. what kind of principle is that.. I mean, we all need to survive, like sharks.. Snowden appears to be a great white.

ES has admitted and GG has admitted he received the stolen property from GG.. if they went to trial, they already pleaded guilty to theft.

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1) "I would think of innocent as undistilled.. pure"

Distilled, meaning having encompassed pollution and subsequently purified

2) "Most people who did not agree with their employer would quit, not steal property and then run"

Incorrect: your premise substitutes a professional company for the government's documented violation of individual privacy. Secondly I will concede that ES's leak was not administratively approved, while informed civil disobedience IMO has a just place in a free society. Thirdly regarding 'running', I believe that the distrust of federal jurisdiction (ie. Patriot Act, NDAA) and avoidance of its potentially violent clandestine retribution (possibly including Michael Hastings, Barry Jennings, etc) is warranted. Having the Attorney General likewise say that ES would not receive the death penalty when no individual's agency has been personally harmed IMO is hardly encouraging

3) "ES has admitted and GG has admitted he received the stolen property from GG"

Incorrect: neither ES or GG have defined the publication of civil documents as 'theft'; I subsequently agree that the public has every right to be informed of what is done in their name

maybe so

NSA being a "professional company".. Do you think the NSA is the only "professional company" "violating" individual privacy? I'm sorry, but to me, "NSA" was cherry picked for a reason.

This is why Malala is my hero. She didn't run. She took bullets to the face for her stand for the right to be educated.

What have you been informed about by all this that you did not know? Why would you be on DP where you are tracked? I'm sorry but I don't get the bruhaha.. in the name of privacy.. the big deal about this to me is the destruction of the republic for a NWO global government, which is less control by the people and destroying the constitution.. SO to me, ES/GG are puppets for a NWO, nothing to cheer, nothing to be proud of, examples of why we are losing freedom, not examples of retaining or winning freedom.

1) "Do you think the NSA is

1) "Do you think the NSA is the only "professional company" "violating" individual privacy?"

Firstly the NSA is supposed to be a civil entity as opposed to private-publicly commercial and no, I do not believe that it is the only transgressive bureau in government.
Also, why parenthesize "violating"? It gives the impression that you don't care whether individuals privacy is invaded or not

2) "This is why Malala is my hero. She didn't run. She took bullets to the face for her stand for the right to be educated"

It is your prerogative naturally whom you might appreciate while for me, ES informing the public of domestic espionage without being a martyr is commendable enough

3) "What have you been informed about by all this that you did not know?

Again I prefer to examine the principle of an issue, not just practicical convenience

4) "Why would you be on DP where you are tracked?"

According to ES/GG's revelations, everything is monitored, and I still don't like it

5) "I'm sorry but I don't get the bruhaha.. in the name of privacy"

That is politically unfortunate in my opinion, but at least (from what I understand) you're not in public office irresponsibly dismissing the issue

6) "the big deal about this to me is the destruction of the republic for a NWO global government, which is less control by the people and destroying the constitution"

I am appreciative however that you do conscionably give attention to the cause of free sovereignty

7) "SO to me, ES/GG are puppets for a NWO"

As you see fit

"violations"

I use quotations because not ALL individuals believe their privacy is invaded, especially those who pay for protection of their privacy/security. It's up to the individual.

Malala is not a martyr, not seeking any sympathy, merely standing up for what she believes and facing her enemies fearlessly, even to the point of death. Where Mr. Bruhaha is so afraid he runs to another country.. uses another spokesperson.. but if that is what it takes to wake people up, enjoy.

Peace.

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1) "I use quotations because not ALL individuals believe their privacy is invaded, especially those who pay for protection of their privacy/security"

Because I can demonstrably prove (courtesy of Mr. Snowden's publicized documents and other personal testimonies)
http://www.boilingfrogspost.com/tag/russ-tice
that the private communication of innocent American citizenry is being unprincipally monitored, governmental abuse is a matter of fact--not abstracted belief.

Are you subsequently suggesting that I should buy off the NSA to obtain free agency from unwarranted surveillance?

2) "Malala is not a martyr"

Partial disagreement: Ms. Yousafzai publicly opposed her oppressors and endured bodily harm while embodying valor

3) "Where Mr. Bruhaha is so afraid he runs to another country.. uses another spokesperson"

I believe that all individuals have the right to arbitrate policy, including envoys concerning civil trials. However and as detailed here
http://pressfreedomfoundation.org/blog/2013/08/why-edward-sn...
ES is legally barred from declaring his intent in court under the Espionage Act.
Private Bradley Manning has likewise suffered an ignominious fate because of this ruling, and I do not blame ES for conscientiously defying it.

Tell me then, Granger: would you appear before an immorally corrupted court and risk life in prison, or do you hold to a double-standard and call Mr. Snowden a coward?

These guys can't act

quick enough!

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