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Rand Paul @ The Values Voters Summit - Oct. 11, 2013! Sneaky: Please Watch the ENTIRE Speech before Formulating an Opinion!

Sen. Paul Speaks at Values Voter Summit- October 11, 2013

http://youtu.be/ol7MabJkb9g
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Published on Oct 11, 2013

** Personal Note: Please watch the entire speech!

You'll be pleasantly surprised by Rand's rather brilliant rhetorical tactic!

Frankly, watching this, I'm more impressed than EVER with Rand!

If you don't watch the whole thing, you're gonna be like: 'What the... Why does he sound suddenly more neoCon-y than a neoCon?? It's all "Islamic Jihad"-this, "Islamic Jihad"-that! Like, WTF? F? F?'

Initially, I was so incensed, I was about to 'delete' the thread by blanking it (seeing as how there's no "Delete Thread" button).

Then, you realize how clever the lad is: just when you think he's built up the audience's righteous indignation about how 'they're waging a war on Christians, and it's not being talked about:' imbuing the audience with a righteous indignant empathy for the victims, and by tribal religious proxy, a victim themselves.

At one point, he even goes 'far' as to assert that actually the current Islamic persecution vs. the Christians reminds him of the Crusades!

But then, here come the sneaky R3d-Pill: Rand points out how Obama is helping/aiding the murder/killing/persecution vs. Christians in the Middle East by aiding the Jihadists with arms and funds. Though IMO, this is precisely when he really could've completely destroyed Maggot Graham & John McNutt by clearly stating that their votes along with Dems are how oBUSHma is able to get away with funding Al-CIA-da. But, be that as it may...

What's more important? He continues to press on the fact that the entire onus of 'keeping Islam peaceful' is on other Muslims to NOT tolerate terrorism in their name, themselves.

So far so good.

But Rand is just building up.

Then, the strategy becomes clear: Islam has to police itself.

As in: 'We,' the Americans, ARE NOT going to intervene in your affairs, nor should we.

Initially Rand makes it seem like he's going along with the usual neocon party line of 'blame the entire Muslim population & Islam' for LETTING this all occur, and how perhaps the solution IS to flex America's military might to drive those jihadists out of those lands where Christians are being persecuted. (It's like, never mind almost century of American intervention abroad in between AND post-European colonialists in those regions.)

BUT, when Rand repeats the "Muslims must police themselves"-meme a few more times, you can almost sense some neocons in the audience 'waking up' to what he's actually saying, too (as exemplified by the raucous cheer to confused almost pensive silence): America will not and SHOULD NOT resolve the Muslim world's own problems by militarily intervening, sacrificing 'our' financial and physical wealth in and of 'our' youths, everywhere all the time.

Then, he actually states to a TheoCon audience that Islam brought enlightenment to the world via innovations in math, literature and science, at one time. And he's factually historically correct, of course!

And, how the Muslim world should want to make that the example by which the world sees them; rhetorical, but it seems to eventually work on Values Voters Summit's audience.

BOOM SHAKA LAKA!

Rand didn't smear Islam nor Muslims, at all: he praised them, factually, historically correctly where it is true, and condemned the aspects where one must.

BRILLIANT.

Rand had the audience rapt in the palm of his hands.

Pretty interesting to observe how he can speak to various crowd saying the same things, while often sounding tailor-made for a specific audience. But, if you really listen to how and what he's saying, it's the same principled stance; sure the rhetoric is definitely a bit more 'polemical' than how his father would've addressed similar issues. But frankly, it's like if Ron was at 70deg. Fahrenheit saying something, Rand's just saying them at 82degrees, but same content.

I personally found his rhetorical tactic to be quite brilliant, and most impressive. Most impressive.

Check it out y'all. Let me know what you think!



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Watch the original before you spread smears

He did a better job praising Islamic world achievements than you'll see from any politician. Watch it.

Michael Scheuer would agree w/ Sen. Paul's statistics I believe.

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me thinks the following was whom you meant to reply:

http://www.dailypaul.com/302468/rand-paul-s-hate-speech

Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

are you replying to me?

Because if you are, apparently you didn't read it all before replying or entirely missed the point I was making; plus I request one fully watch the entire speech before jumping to conclusions in the thread's headline...which, coincidentally is the same point you're making, no?

Plus you may want to read many of the comments below if you need third party verification; most of the responding DP r3vol knew the point I was trying to make: this, is not what a "smear" looks like.0)

Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

Personally

I think that was genius.

A lot of these people need baby steps, and they need to hear it in language they understand and relate with.

He is lighting brushfires!

It is sad to see poor, wimpy

It is sad to see poor, wimpy Rand flattering the Neocons, ignoring the fact that it has consistently been U.S. policy to support anti-Christian cadres, while overthrowing regimes that defend Christianity. Once the U.S. has pushed the Assad regime out, the Syrian Christian church--a church personally evangelized by Jesus Christ--will be quickly demolished. If the Americans went home and left Assad alone, Christians in Syria would be pretty safe. But the Neocons will not like Rand if he says this, so he dissembles, hoping to be loved. He may gain some support from among the Neocons and government contractors--who knows? But he will never have the wholehearted support of the Ron Paul faction. And he doesn't seem to care much.

"But he will never have the wholehearted support of the Ron Paul

Even if that were true, it doesn't really matter. We can't muster many votes on our own.

And if you spoke for the "Ron Paul faction", it would matter even less if he were supported by it... because it would be crazy.

I don't get your complaint

Ron would have blamed the US intervention, as Rand did, for creating hatred and feeding violence.

But did Ron ever blame Islam and point out how Christianity was being targeted? I can't recall a time - but I'm old and my memory sucks.

I don't think it is the US govt job to defend Christians (of other countries). But it is the presidents opportunity to use the "bully pulpit" to point out injustice.

I agree with Rand's approach. Now I'll be interested to see if he has the guts to repeat this speech in front of his enemies in the press and in front of muslims.

Nobody said it is the

Nobody said it is the responsibility of the US government to protect Christians abroad. It is the responsibility of the US government not to finance the targeted extermination of religious groups, including Christians.

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The schedule was Mike Lee, Ted Cruz, Rand Paul, Marco Rubio, and Tim Scott this morning. Brent Bozell introduced Cruz and reamed McCain.

I caught Ted Cruz live on cspan this morning. His responses to the heckling were priceless. Cruz got many standing ovations. He asked this question: Do you want your children or grandchildren to ask you "What was it like when America was free?"

Rand followed Cruz that's why he offered to give the hecklers a ride back to the White House. Rand did an excellent job. I like his style.

in "his Prius"

at that, as he joked. Lol

Yep. Cruz handled it pretty well, too; I always wondered why most speakers (morally and principally in the right) being heckled don't simply invite them on stage to let them say their greivances, debate them, and let the audience judge the comments and simply let the empty rhetoric/pre-designed talking points-driven rants to implode spectacularly, on stage, for the entire world to see.

I know I would.

Now had the speaker been GWB or Dickhead Cheney, of course, they deserve to be heckled. And arguendo, if the heckler were to be brought on stage to say their piece, anyone even informed with a modicum of perfunctory knowledge would simply crush these vile murderous warcriminal creatures from Hades.

Which of course, is the reason why the guilty never want their critics' voices to be heard, but given how someone in the right, like Cruz, regardless of what one may think of the overall effectiveness of the 'filibuster' vs Rand's, we all know that he could easily verbally rip 'em apart, as he gleefully invited them to such challenge, as he stated in that speech. Lol.

Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

That was beautiful

Rand is a great speaker, one of the best we have.

I agree - he got them all riled up - then slam dunked them with some real history and common sense.

Rand

I just like that the man never reads from a card or a prompter, or at least he is very good at preparing.

I agree that he is an excellant speaker...

... but he did have a teleprompter this time. He has gotten a lot better at appearing as if he does not.

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great thread AnCap

That speech for that audience was epic. those folks go to church a few days a week.

I often wonder if rand ever strategizes with his dad. rand has said mom is the go between... I could see that too.

Ron has to be proud and still kinda protective. Dunno....

I hope jack hunter writes the book. :)

'Peace is a powerful message.' Ron Paul

thanks .o)

!!!

Yup I too occasionally wonder about that.

Pure speculation my part despite how plausible I feel that it must be: having dealt with a few offsprings of Depression-era born parents, along with assessing an observation of cultural norms, in my experience I found them to have a much more conversationally open relationships with their mothers, than their fathers, born of that era. So, I'd too posit and agree that you may most likely be correct about Rand and Carol, IMHO.

Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

touche..

Ive met Mrs. Paul a couple times. She is the sweetest most genuine person on earth. Im a very protective father. I could see her being the sweetest momma on earth and doing everything in her power to keep family together.

Regardless, Mrs. Paul is one amazing woman. She managed to be the other half of an incredible equation. It had to have very hard moments. Did you know that Ron will not travel with an unaccompanied woman? Im sure it is part strategy and mostly loyalty.

In my 7 years of support for Ron, he has never displayed anything but honesty and love for his family. Im not saying this as a fan. Im saying this because its the truth.

There is no better example of American Exceptionalism than the principles and issues that Ron has defended for 3o years.

'Peace is a powerful message.' Ron Paul

yep, love that about him; so old-school like Gary Cooper-era

sense of decorum, manners and propriety:

"Did you know that Ron will not travel with an unaccompanied woman?"

yup. it's always the little things that made the Gray Champ stand out to me .oD

Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

He said Malala

Rand's the man!

Nothing Sneaky Here

He gave an honest speech that exemplifies Libertarian belief. Respect peoples freedom and don't be afraid to speak the truth.

He did not try to build hate and he did not make excuses for Islam.

People who want to shout down those who point out the evil in Islam are as bad as those who try to shout down the people who point to the evils in America.

We must deal with those in our govt and society who do not respect all people rights and we must demand of Islam that they deal with those in Islam who do not respect others rights.

Too much cheering for evil and too much schadenfreude on both sides.

yeah actually really meant it as 'sneaky'

with quotes; as you posit: he wasn't being sneaky at all, was being honest in the final equation.

frankly I actually omitted the quotes to avoid headline box word-limit. pardon .D

Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

Stand with Rand

Flipped the coin on the audience and they're still spinning...

"I, __________, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oath_of_enlistment

There is no duration defined in the Oath

Welp, I disagree. I did not

Welp, I disagree. I did not like almost all of what he said, nor his beliefs behind the words. There are a lot of reasons those people burned the American flag, and ONE could be that they do NOT like us giving arms and aid to any side, in that country. He kept talking about how we needed to defend ourselves. He was all for going to war after 911, when a handful of criminals (if that is EVEN true) from a country we did NOT go to war with, perpetrated the attack in NY. He makes little sense to me. I did like the truths he spoke about Islamic history and the main religion, and peace, but he did not overwhelm me with a sense of his own "goodness", one bit.

Well said, Crickett.

Well said, Crickett.

I can appreciate your

I can appreciate your perspective. I, personally, hold out hope that while he does not take Ron's hard line stance, he still believes the philosophy. I think Rand is walking a tight rope. The tactic appears to be to speak to the things most 'reasonable' people can agree on. We DO have the right to defend ourselves, we shouldn't give aid to those who intend us harm (I believe in NO foreign aid - but any move in reduction is positive to me)

I think in many ways Ron's career reflects that of the LP... he never compromised.. not even when it might move the ball in the right direction a little as opposed to not at all. Was he wrong to do so? Absolutely not, in my opinion. But, being pragmatic, I think concessions that make progress toward the ultimate goal do more to get you there than waiting until the time (that will never come) when you get everything you want in one fell swoop. I think Rand agrees and he's playing the game better in that regard.

He did a good job in this speech of speaking to the 'hoo ra! bomb them terrorists!' potential mentality and flipping it on its head... showing that it's counter-productive, that it's not even our ability to combat with weapons.

Well, I hope you are right,

Well, I hope you are right, but I just did not see it. I saw Christian rhetoric and belief in defending ourselves against a country, after 911, when there was no country involved..(that we have an inkling of proof to identify). I think most are reading "genius" into this speech, when I see just a good speech that does not, much, resonate with me, nor my ideologies.

I hope I'm right too.

I hope I'm right too.

Your synopsis was spot on...

Excellent! Thanks Cap'M

quite

welcome: I QWERTY to inform & entertain, and possibly please, by procedural proxy .0)

Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

This is classic Rand right here...

In the beginning of it I was like, "umm yeah yeah yeah...I'm really not in the mood for this shit right now.." Then I started to smirk as it went on because I saw what he was getting at. By the time it was done, I was like, "Holy crap...I see what you did there! Well played Randall, well played." Mind = Blown.

"Truth is treason in the empire of lies"

What can one expect..

he was taught by the best.

"Life is just a candle, and a dream must give it flame.."