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Anyone else miss Jack Hunter?

I really do. I feel like our movement kinda dropped the ball. Jack has been in our corner cheering our side since Buchanan.

I heard him speak about a litany of issues and never come off racist for a moment. He is southern for sure. Anyone not from the south, he may come off as brash. He is from there though.

Its bullshit Cheney got away with this. This was an intentional attack and one of our best allies. It was done in malice, to hurt Rand. Period.

The WeAreChange folks encounter with Jack is the least of my worries. We lost a bright, eloquent and determined ally because of shady politics.

The irony? Dick Cheney used the Lefties of MSNBC to attack his own party.

I miss Jack Hunter.

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No. When someone loses their credibility, they are done.

The words integrity, honesty, and consistency are not relative terms. However, political expediency is a relative term that Jack Hunter and Jesse Benton are quite familiar with.

No.......

No.......

The irony is he was willing to write off...

...the better part of the movement as "fringe" in an effort to suck up to the establishment, and then the establishment turned on him viciously and hoisted him on his own petard.

The lesson in all this is that we "fringe" need to stick together, not turn on each other, and NEVER EVER concede to the establishment the lies that they use against us to stay in power. That was Jack's big mistake, and it cost him big time.

Hell no!! Good riddance, I

Hell no!! Good riddance, I was mad as hell when he called the liberty movement a bunch of conspiracy theorists...

i never cared for him

and i don't miss him.

"Who?"

"Who?"

I was never a huge fan of

I was never a huge fan of Jack Hunter but the reason he was forced to resign from Rand Paul's pay, his criticism of Abraham Lincoln was totally ridiculous as Lincoln needs to be exposed and recognized as the tyrant that he is.
I think if we have a victory strategy in the future it will be to appeal far broader than the narrow Southern strategy that Jack Hunter employed. This is not a south vs north campaign. Any decent American needs to oppose the State and its efforts to subjugate the masses.

Jack is a smart guy

But he was intentionally divisive. Just the name "Southern Avenger" alone is enough to cause any seeker of liberty with other than white skin to be suspicious. His history and affiliations as a young man don't help, either.

Is he putting out commentary?

I'd like to read his stuff again after he rests up.

"Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of liberty" TJ

no

I think him being smeared as a racist was a load of BS, but I never liked his attitude, because IMO it alienated more people than it brought in.

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yea?

He had a very no nonsense attitude and was able to corner Lindsay into saying 'I push back.'

His attitude was full of resilience. Can you point out a singular moment that made you lose faith in his efforts?

'Peace is a powerful message.' Ron Paul

It wasn't one particular moment

but rather the way his attitude seemed to change as he gained notoriety. Like Victoria said, he became uppity. Maybe he let it go to his head? I can only speculate.

I wouldn't dismiss anyone on a single thing they did that I didn't like. If that were the case, I wouldn't pay any mind to Rand Paul or Ted Cruz or Dennis Kucinich.

But as far as 'the last straw'? I'd say it was the way he treated WeAreChange. Now I'm not exactly WAC's biggest fan, but I always felt his was very dismissive of them, and the 'conspiracy' crowd in general.

There's nothing wrong with being abrasive, it's being dismissive of others that bothers me.

edit: I'm still open to hearing his opinions and can appreciate his efforts; I'm just lukewarm about him. Chalk it up to a personality clash.

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I agree.

It doesn't make him any less valuable to us. I feel that our movement will eat its own sometimes just to make a point.

Jack grew the fuck up. So did I. The Truthers, like it or not, have been a red herring the left continually has put up in our way. Jack didn't play ball with them, co-wrote Rands book, has proven to be on our side....

and was cast out because of Atwater/Rove strategy and operatives. Let me repeat. Cheney used the left to Attack Rand when his daughter announced she was running. Its a deflection tactic.

Rand isn't perfect and neither is Ron. Im just pointing out the shady bullshit behind the scenes. Thats all.

'Peace is a powerful message.' Ron Paul

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and an upvote for thoughtful discussion.

"It doesn't make him any less valuable to us. I feel that our movement will eat its own sometimes just to make a point."

Very true. The "my way or the highway" attitude is the main reason why I dislike both statists and (some) so-called purists.

"Jack grew the fuck up. So did I. The Truthers, like it or not, have been a red herring the left continually has put up in our way. Jack didn't play ball with them [...]"

It's not just the truthers though, he seemed dismissive of any sort of conspiracy talk, not just 9/11 related stuff. Like I say, I don't count myself as being part of that crowd (though I don't believe any 'official' stories, either), but I'm always willing to hear someone out so long as they're respectful of dissenting opinions.

"Rand isn't perfect and neither is Ron. Im just pointing out the shady bullshit behind the scenes. Thats all."

I can appreciate what you're doing, and I certainly wouldn't expect anyone to be perfect. Personally, I'm suspicious of folks who come across as being 'too perfect'...makes me think they're hiding something. ;D

We're all flawed in some way or another, and those flaws often boil down to a matter of perception anyhow.

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Nope he got uppity...to his

Nope he got uppity...to his own detriment.

woooooot

great example of why SA is so kick ass.

'Peace is a powerful message.' Ron Paul

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"Christianity and occasionally Metallica teaches.." For some reason that line had me rolling.

Really good video. Thanks!

Yeah, I miss him too.

The guy was quite eloquent and displayed all the charm and charisma of an old school Southern gentleman. I followed his "Southern Avenger" show on youtube for quite a while, and he always had a solid command of wit and brevity.

One thing is for sure, I will be dancing the gig on camera the day that Dick Cheney's black heart finally gives out on him. It will be easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than it will be for that cold S.O.B. to enter into the kingdom of heaven.

“My attitude toward progress has passed from antagonism to boredom. I have long ceased to argue with people who prefer Thursday to Wednesday because it is Thursday.” - G.K. Chesterton

Jack who?

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~wobbles but doesn't fall down~

Yeah

I miss Jack Hunter.