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What's wrong with the Koch brothers?

On one hand I've heard that the Koch brothers are evil and corrupt, and on the other I've heard many libertarians praise their efforts. Has the family acquired its wealth in a just way? Have they contributed to bad organizations or people? After a little research I feel like critics don't like the size of their contributions, but there must be more to the story.



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Charles Koch has probably

Charles Koch has probably done more (financially) to spread libertarianism to young people than anyone else in the country.

They are crony capitalists

who pretend to be champions of the free market. They are pro-Fed.

“The welfare of the people in particular has always been the alibi of tyrants.” — Albert Camus

The hatred is an enigma to me.

I've had my problems with Reason Magazine (one of the news publications that they fund), but on the whole, they are hated primarily because the so-called political left needs a bogeyman in order to encourage funds from their mentally challenged supporters. At worst, the Koch brothers are guilty of using their mass fortune to do the opposite of what George Soros and other Socialist Oligarchs have been doing for decades.

Personally, if the Koch brothers successfully took over every news publication in America, it would be a step up from what we have now, though it wouldn't be quite what I'd be looking for in terms of libertarianism, they are a bit weak on the civil liberties front, and I don't think they like the limited foreign policy ideas of the Liberty Movement as much as they should.

“My attitude toward progress has passed from antagonism to boredom. I have long ceased to argue with people who prefer Thursday to Wednesday because it is Thursday.” - G.K. Chesterton

When it comes to put up or shut up..

..they put up.

"Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of liberty" TJ

It's simple

The Koch Brothers further their wealth by paying off politicians to create laws that benefit them and hinder their competition.

Is it illegal? Is it immoral? Do the majority of big coporations do this?
Yes, yes, and yes.

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A must read

Thanks for posting

"Alas! I believe in the virtue of birds. And it only takes a feather for me to die laughing."

Progressive retards just like

Progressive retards just like saying the word Coke.

I don't know--

I'm not sure they really are on any 'side' but their own--

it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--

The fund all the "libertarian" organizations that stabbed Ron Pa

Ron Paul in the back at crucial moments.

They are the opposition. They are pseudo-libertarian sellouts and need to be watched like hawks.

Right. Koch outfits were also cool with NSA spying on us

The Koch's aren't bad guys like Soros, but they aren't good guys either.

Koch Brother = Oligarchs, like any other big corporate interst

Talk a big game, and support good think tanks and publications, but they are just as corrupt and focused DC lobbying for protectionist measures as any other big money interest.

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I think they're demonized

I think they're demonized because they refuse to roll over and take it. To be wealthy and independent thinking is a threat to the socialists.

I don't think they are part

I don't think they are part of the NWO club.

David Koch

was the 1980 Libertarian vice presidential candidate promising to abolish Social Security, the Federal Reserve Board, welfare, minimum-wage laws, corporate taxes, all price supports and subsidies for agriculture and business, and U.S. Federal agencies including the SEC, EPA, ICC, FTC, OSHA, FBI, CIA, and DOE. I guess that might qualify as "evil and corrupt" by most in this country. But, wait we had Ronald Reagan, running with big Bush who promised some of that.

In Reagan's Defense

There was an attempt on his life early in his presidency. I have to wonder if the Bush family was involved (much like JFK).

Reagan is an example

of what libertarians need to be aware of: a Republican in Libertarian clothes. My dad warned me of Reagan and told me I should vote for Ed Clark.

My take on the Koch brothers is that the free market has served

them well, and they are willing to invest some of their fortune to preserve that system.

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I would say,

The free market probably would not have done them as well as the crony capitalistic market we have now.