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Republicans Are About to Cave 100 Percent ... and Worse!

Reading between the lines of the approaching "deal" on the government "shutdown," it seems the Republicans are about to give up everything AND agree to INCREASED spending!

  • They will agree to NO changes to Obamacare.
  • They will agree to INCREASE the debt ceiling.
  • They will agree to END the budget sequester cuts.

This means INCREASE spending. They are talking about "talks" in January to discuss "cuts" but only with the provision that the CURRENT budget "cuts" (sequester) END in December.

The Republicans (i.e. Mitch McConnell and John Boehner) are about to give up EVERY negotiating point the Tea Party Republicans have been pushing ... AND give up MORE by ending the automatic budget sequester cuts.

Just watch.

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The Shut-down is about over, 90 day extention!

Senate passed!
The House just caved-in and passed 90 day extention!

Obama to sign into law yet tonight!

Disappointing, but not unexpected!

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more scripted than the WWE.

more scripted than the WWE.

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you guys shold quit acting so novice

when in the last 20 year DIDN'T the GOP do this?

This is why I say there is NO difference between dems and repulican'ts, other than the dems are more honest.

Doesnt matter if the gop has a majority or not, the gameplane is always - Stage enough theatre to get the dumbest citizens in the free world(american), to think their party cares or is different than the other party and then eventually cave in.

It means NOTHING that the gop and dems differ on minor crap, if they're aligned on this, JUST like they were under bush with supporting the first TARP. Same $hit different day.

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what is the name of the bill.

s.304 Kick the Can down the Road. Thanks for bending over Republicans.

SteveMT's picture

These turkeys are about to "kick-the-can" until Feb, 2014.

http://www.politico.com/story/2013/10/government-shutdown-de...

The bill will barely scathe Obamacare, however, and putting it on the floor will mark a huge concession by the House after sparking a 16-day government shutdown over insistence that the health care law be defunded or delayed as a condition to keep the government open. Dozens of conservatives in the House will be disappointed by the proposal and Boehner will need Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi to deliver a bevy of votes to pass the bill.

Reid (D-Nev.) and McConnell (R-Ky.) are very close to finishing an agreement to reopen the government through Jan. 15, lift the debt ceiling through Feb. 7 and develop a bicameral budget committee that would be required to develop a conference report by Dec. 13.

The plan includes a proposal offered by McConnell in the 2011 debt ceiling crisis that allows Congress to disapprove of the debt ceiling increase, which means lawmakers will formally vote on whether to reject of the debt ceiling increase until Feb. 7. Obama can veto that legislation if it passes. If Congress fails as expected to gather a two-thirds majority to override the veto, the debt ceiling would be raised.

The deal would also deliver back pay to furloughed federal workers, require income verification for people seeking health-insurance subsidies under the Affordable Care Act and also allow the Treasury Department to use extraordinary measures to pay the nation’s bills if Congress doesn’t raise the debt ceiling by Feb. 7.
http://www.politico.com/story/2013/10/government-shutdown-de...

So you are surprised? How

So you are surprised? How anyone with a brain can differentiate between the corrupt liars in the republican party and the corrupt liars in the democrat party is really something.

Glad I'm retired. Enjoy the world you're creating. Maybe volunteer for military and wonder why there's no morality left in the usa ( no cash either )

The world is my country, all mankind are my brethren, and to do good things is my religion. Thomas Paine, Godfather of the American Revolution

I Agree.

I worked hard and saved most of my life. Gave up being a Electrician for fishing. Not making anything on savings. Except on mining stocks. I was before money printing by our government went rabid. Feels good not working and paying Federal taxes on a paycheck. No state tax in Tenn. Grow my own food. bartering for services rendered. Time to go fishing.

Money talks and dogs bark

All this talk about "budget committee" ...

... to meet in December or January is code for: end the sequester.

So, the current "deal" offers --

- NO changes to Obamacare.

- NO clampdown on the debt ceiling.

- A NEW budget committee that is not being talked about, but is code for ending automatic budget "cuts" via sequester.

The Republican establishment has caved, as expected. Sure, there are 50 House Republicans who will oppose this, but they will lose when the vote of the Democrats is joined by the big government Republicans.

All in all, it was much ado about nothing.

If this is the best the establishment Republicans can do, then they ain't worth a damn.

We already know this, but it's still good to be reminded what dirty cockroaches they really are.

It's up to us to make sure

It's up to us to make sure these bums pack their bags and find their way out the door.

Hahahaha yeah, hahaha that's

Hahahaha yeah, hahaha that's funny

The world is my country, all mankind are my brethren, and to do good things is my religion. Thomas Paine, Godfather of the American Revolution

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Likely.

Likely.

"Cyril" pronounced "see real". I code stuff.

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Collapse is inevitable. Look at the 10 year graph

Go to goldprice.org, and click on the 10 year graph of gold. See the collapse in 2008? and then the rise to 2011 to $1,900? Now look at the 2012, 2013. See the next bubble? Now compare the two bumps in the graph. Notice how the 2012/13 is 5 times the size of 2007?

This is going to be worse. FAR worse.

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I really hope people aren't surprised by this.

The GOP didn't invite this shutdown out of any real principle. They did it because they're mad that they're not in power and therefore don't want the Democrats to govern. Let's not pretend the GOP wouldn't be pushing through the same legislation if they were in charge.

Both parties are full of the same crooks, there is no functional difference between the two.

I don't play, I commission the league.

oh and they added....

An exemption for unions. What?

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Let's tell the Republicans

Let's tell the Republicans that every person in America has to signup for ObamaCare, and the deadline is Friday, then lets watch their system go up in flames!

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A great empire, like a great cake, is most easily diminished at the edges. - Ben Franklin

Same Old

Drama. Always comes down to the wire to give the lapdog media something to talk about. Then they sell us out and we kick the can down the road for another year or so.

Let's just go ahead and default. Rip the band-aid off already and restart.

"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. - Alexander Fraser Tyler

and to top it all off.......

the fed will continue the money printing with QE

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Why the surprise?

Demorats and republiscum both play for the same team; the state, and it always wins.
Believing there is any material difference bwtween the two is what allows them to suck you into their scam and keep it going. The parties have the same goal and that is to rob and control as many people as possible for as long as possible. Anyone who tells you different is lying.

too true--

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Repubs should demand Silver as Legal Tender

I could get behind that.

WRONG

They will agree to END the budget sequester cuts (the only REAL budget decrease in modern history).

Sequester didn't decrease the budget at all...it merely decreased the increase in the budget :)

Good point ...

... you are right, so I changed that part.

lol, I just thought I'd be a

lol, I just thought I'd be a smart ass about the sequester being pathetic.

Not a smart ass at all ...

... to call out something that is wrong.

Besides, being a smart ass is better than being a dumb ass. LOL

On the other hand ...

It turns out that the sequester really HAS had a positive effect. The talk about how it is not a REAL cut but is just a cut in growth rate is true, as far as the long-term projections.

However, the budget spending in 2013 has been FLAT from 2012 for the first time in a long time:

http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/federal_budget_fy13

I agree it was positive but

I agree it was positive but it was not nearly enough.

The truth of the matter is we could cut everything but entitlements and half of defense and run a deficit (including interest on debt). So cuts to the petty government expenditures, why nice, is not addressing the issue.

One thing people don't realize is entitlements, in the current sense, hurt the poor more than it helps. Back 40-50 years ago SS and Medicare actually helped out poor people down on their luck. It was basically an insurance policy to make sure you didn't get sucked down a black hole should you loss your job, get hurt, etc. Overall, not the worst idea. Sadly, now it is nothing more than transfer payments to smooth income inequality. Oddly enough, by trying to do so it actually made the problem worse. It also hurts upward mobility of income. It takes a sustainable amount of work to get out of the lower class but entitlements tend to make it more profitable to stay lower than to begin to move up. Finally, Social security is now thought of as a retirement account. It has caused people to lower retirement savings and spend more now. SS was never intended to replace retirement accounts. It was a welfare program.

Ugh...anywho, what were we talking about?

The dollar is a ponzi scheme

Who cares at this point if they spend more? It will just put the collapse off longer for people to wake up and prepare.

If the cave on Obamacare, I will no longer be able to prep for stack.
That will make me very sad.

Ron brought the Liberty movement together, Rand is expanding the crap out of it! :)

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is made out of people!

I don't know why, that just fits

"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."-- Albert Einstein

blow up mitch McConnell's and other key republican figures

And your reps..Phone Lines!!!! I'l be calling along with some friends.. Hold The Line!

See this:

http://www.dailypaul.com/302417/fck-the-govt-except-the-part...

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