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Republicans Are About to Cave 100 Percent ... and Worse!

Reading between the lines of the approaching "deal" on the government "shutdown," it seems the Republicans are about to give up everything AND agree to INCREASED spending!

  • They will agree to NO changes to Obamacare.
  • They will agree to INCREASE the debt ceiling.
  • They will agree to END the budget sequester cuts.

This means INCREASE spending. They are talking about "talks" in January to discuss "cuts" but only with the provision that the CURRENT budget "cuts" (sequester) END in December.

The Republicans (i.e. Mitch McConnell and John Boehner) are about to give up EVERY negotiating point the Tea Party Republicans have been pushing ... AND give up MORE by ending the automatic budget sequester cuts.

Just watch.



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This is the result I fully expected

One day everyone will realize it's all just a show. And notice how the "fiscal cliff" is quietly going up this time around. It's always the same thing, discussion and raise it, scary name and raise it, big show no discussion and raise it.

Exactly,

As Ron Paul stated earlier- they will just grandstand until the 11th hour then fold like a cheap lawnchair...

We all share this eternally evolving present moment- The past and future only exist as inconsequential mental fabrications.

3rd party is the only way.

Reps are helping the Dems.

No Parties at all needed!

What we need is,random election pools, for every political position filled by anyone required the take the oath in support the Constitution.

Before their names could be entered into the election pool they would be required to sign a written binding contract to apply a literal interpretation and application to the U.S. Constitution is elected the that position.

We could then randomly select true Citizen Legislatures at the Federal as well as State levels.

We should also establish Citizen Constitutional integrity review boards to watch and report on these representatives. They need to be watched like no tomorrow.

Think Truth...Trust Truth...Rely on Truth!

I've got news for you.

There are already plenty of "third parties". A "third party" wont do a bit of good. If a "third party" was successful in getting any number of candidates elected it would quickly be co-opted by the liberals just like the GOP has been.

Politics is a liberal game and they always win in the end.

Why is it always a 'surprise' when the Statists cave?

Einstein's definition of insanity is repeating the same thing and expecting a different result.

Idea! Keep putting your trust in the STATIST controlled Republican Party and expect something good to happen.

No surprise. Very

No surprise. Very predictable. This is all well scripted drama towards predetermined goals.

I warned early on

that these Corporate Collectivist unleadership in the GOP was just
playing a charade game in hopes to pin all the 'artificially invoked' turmoil on the Tea Party/Liberty Senators and Cogressman. They hope to turn the sheeple public against the Tea Party hoping they can force them out of the party. Even though, it could divide the GOP resulting in a 3rd Party, these collectivists care more about pleasing their masters, over party, America, or the people. The easiest threat the Zionist Bankster controllers probably used on them is, unless you do what we want, we will deny you entrance to the underground bunkers when we decide to collapse the economy and you will be left to defend yourselves against the vengeful public.

Not hard to predict

To say republicans will cave is like saying, I predict the sun will rise tomorrow morning, anyone paying attention already knows this. To all the Rand "play ball" Paul fans, It's delusional to think he will or even can save you. Our fate was sealed in October of 08(bailout), no one is coming to rescue you ass, look in the mirror you are the answer, the best we can hope for at this point is try and rebuild on the ashes of the satanic empire.

Starting in 1862 Republicans invalidated the Republic

The Democrats joined Republicans to destroy Democracy in America and handed control to the Creditors.

The Democrats and the Republicans will kiss and make up to loot the public one more time (before the next time).

Free includes debt-free!

The United States is a Republic

not a democracy.

I think

...that will decimate the GOP.

Even with the likes of Hannity, Limbaugh, Ingraham, Savage, Cunningham, O'Reilly, will not be able to put Humpty Dumpty back together again imo.

Sure will be interesting to see the vids of the upcoming meetings though.

donvino

Delaying the individual mandate only helps Democrats in 2014

Once people see it up close, they're going to hate it.

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They can't shut down this train wreck of a government down

enough

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RON PAUL 2012

the sequester has to stay

This whole delaying Obamacare for a year makes no difference, the thing's going to come sooner or later. But the sequester was a real chance to lower spending. Why is the sequester even on the table?

The Federal Reserve

pumped out money in QE1, QE2, and QE3 to infinity. Somebody has to pay the interest on this money. Obamacare isn't about healthcare, it's just another way to extract money from the people to pay the interest on the money pumping.

Not necessarily if the one

Not necessarily if the one year delay extends through January of 2015.

Can you elaborate?

Can you elaborate?

New US Congress

New US Congress

Oh, Interesting

I doubt even then they could get rid of it though. Obama is still in office, there's nowhere close to a veto proof majority in the House, and not a majority of any kind in the Senate. Even if the Republicans pick up 30 new house seats and a handful of Senate seats (very unlikely itself), I still doubt it's going anywhere.

I tend to agree with you, but

I tend to agree with you, but 2014 might turn into 2010 on steroids. We'll see.

No changes in ObamaCare?

That's not quite true, Just in: Unions poised to get a one year extension. But not the individual!

http://thehill.com/blogs/healthwatch/health-reform-implement...

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Maybe, a more accurate

Maybe, a more accurate assessment should be no changes in ObamaCare for non-Democrats? LoL

Seriously, these proposals are mainly window dressing so Americans peering through the King's window won't see him exposed and ball-less. Anything less than a one year delay of implementing the individual mandate is basically a retreat.

LOL, Well stated!

Couldn't have said it better!

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Look on the bright side

If we give Obama his precious health care plan and then it crashes and burns, maybe more democrats will wake up to our cause. There's two sides to everything and I don't know if giving up on some of these things will help or hinder our cause in the long run.

Isn't that a little bit by

Isn't that a little bit by declaring someone insane just to watch him crash and burn...then trying to get him out to change his status?

It Would Be a Gamble

We know that Obamacare will fail if he must have it working today. What we do not know is how the public will react. They might demand a single payer system today when Obama tells everyone that the current system is too complicated as is but will work if we give the government everything.

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A Citizen-Operated Legal System.

Mitch McConnell and John Boehner

Fuck Mitch McConnell and John Boehner

I wouldn't

be surprised. The Republicans created this mess with the Democrats and helped Obama Care pass.

exactly

the democrats are only slightly more guilty of this...

"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."-- Albert Einstein