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Senator Booker ... WOW !

When the mayor of Newark can get elected to the federal senate.

Its so damn preposterous I can't think of anything to compare it to.

Last one out of New Jersey don't forget the flag !




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I abstained from voting

I agreed with Lonegan probaby 60-70% of the time but every time he speaks he comes across as such a disingenuous, nasty person that I wasn't even sure I could trust him making decisions supposedly for my benefit.

.Booker

713,594 55%

579,388 44%

They reap what they sow

Actually

Not bad, 6% to sway next time.

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I'm glad NJ residents pay

I'm glad NJ residents pay huge property taxes. I used to live in Philadelphia area. My 2,000sf home taxes in SW Florida is about $1,000 now.

Howdy neighbor!



I am originally from Pittsburgh.
No different than Philly tax wise.

SWFL is my home now also!

Taxes on my 1530sq ft waterfront, deep water, sailboat access, three minutes to the Caloosahatchee River home are also $1000.+/- per yr.
I get the Veteran discount and the SOH (SaveOurHomes)cap.

I am fighting for Liberty in Lee County as a Ron/Rand Liberty Committeeman.
Where are you fighting for Liberty Michaelwiseguy?

Exercise Liberty!


America Rising.
The Constitution Stands.

"That the pen is mightier than the sword would be proven false; if I should take my sword and cut off the hand that holds the pen" - American Nomad

When will

this crap end? I am praying for a collapse now. I just can't take it any more. I'm afraid to have a kid because of how sick and twisted this Country is. It truly is sad that Humans think this way. I just don't get it.

Looks like we're in this rut for

the long haul.

Doesn't

surprise me. NJ is filled with moochers who love taking drugs. I live here! I live in a bad neighborhood where people are so lazy, they can't even put their garbage in a garbage bag. They rob people, break into peoples homes. Moochers...

Maybe we should open the FEMA Camps.

Yep, I figured this would happen.

I'm not sure how many Republicans didn't vote because of the bogus mail outs that the Dems. did, but I'll definitely say that Booker carried this thing based on a massive population of brainless urban dwellers. Just about every state where moronic senators like the up and coming Booker hail from is ruled by the tyrannical majority of 2 or more cities. We've been subjected to the likes of Rick Santorum on the one side and Bob Casey Jr. on the other thanks to the throngs of idiotic zombies that pour into the polls in Philadelphia and Pittsburgh.

If some massive meteors took out the 15 most densely populated cities in America, this country would not be in the terrible shape it's currently in.

“My attitude toward progress has passed from antagonism to boredom. I have long ceased to argue with people who prefer Thursday to Wednesday because it is Thursday.” - G.K. Chesterton

Although I agree with your

Although I agree with your sentiment, we, the people, should try to limit the damage by repealing the 17th amendment. Then, the politically aware would only have to battle their state governments while the coach potatoes stay home except during elections where their selfish voice is limited to the House of Representatives.

I think the more likely

I think the more likely situation is that we'd get even greater statists in the Senate because they will be handpicked and vetted by the state governments themselves. We'd also probably get even more federal funds devolved to the states because states love getting their free money.

If Senators were still

If Senators were still constitutionally appointed as our founders intended, those "federal" funds would have remained primarily at the level of state government and never left home for the robbers in the District of Columbia. The robbers in the District of Columbia simply redistribute a minor portion of the confiscated wealth to the people with strings attached. Again, state governments are accountable to the people and therefore appointed US Senators are INDIRECTLY accountable to the people as well. Thankfully, the accountability of state government will mainly fall to the INFORMED and active segment of the people while the UNINFORMED and inactive couch potatoes stay at home.

If I were some state

If I were some state government shill sent to Washington, what would I do? Take as much money as I can from federal coffers and bring it into my state. That would make the government officials happy, it will make the state's citizens happy. This is essentially what happens now.

You've missed the point not

You've missed the point not once, but twice.

Fine, I'll do it sentence by sentence

"If Senators were still constitutionally appointed as our founders intended, those "federal" funds would have remained primarily at the level of state government and never left home for the robbers in the District of Columbia."

I see no reason to believe this. If I were a state government shill I would love it if the federal government did all my taxing for me. This way 1) I don't get blamed for high taxes, 2) it's cheaper to get a check in the mail of tax revenues already raised from the federal government than to maintain a tax extraction system of my own, so i can hide the true cost of state governance, 3) if somehow the 17th amendment is repealed, we still have the 16th amendment and years of Supreme Court precedent on taxation powers of the federal government

"The robbers in the District of Columbia simply redistribute a minor portion of the confiscated wealth to the people with strings attached."

Agree

"Again, state governments are accountable to the people and therefore appointed US Senators are INDIRECTLY accountable to the people as well."

I'll accept for the sake of argument that state governments are more responsive to its citizens (i.e. there is a greater sense of democracy, a term often maligned on this website, at the state level.). My problem isn't with the accountability of Senators under a repealed 17th amendment scheme.

"Thankfully, the accountability of state government will mainly fall to the INFORMED and active segment of the people while the UNINFORMED and inactive couch potatoes stay at home."

Again, see no reason to believe this. The main goal of the Senators will still be to represent their states, although now it's not (as you say yourself), directly to represent the people of the states, but to instead represent the interests of the state politicians. Now, perhaps having the states choose senators will mean more people will pay attention to state politics than they do now, and maybe you think that's good. But that's just taking the problem that exists now and moving it down a level, with the same population vying to get their candidate elected via voting for state candidates rather than directly voting for senators. So in that case you wouldn't have just the "informed" people making the decision. Or, perhaps people will still ignore state politics like they largely do now. So then the state politicians are given freedom to make their own choices o nwho they want to represent them at the federal level without fearing getting voted out of office. So who will they choose? The candidates that benefit them the most-- the ones who will give them the most money, the most special favors from the federal government. Largely how it exists now. So what is gained from all of this?

Oh I definitely agree with that one.

The Senate is the filter by which the ridiculous ideas that the masses dream up is seared out of the equation, thus protecting the intelligent from the idiotic. The 17th Amendment was, at best, equally as destructive to America as the Federal Reserve Act and the 16 Amendment. Popular votes for Senators is about as logical as circles with corners.

“My attitude toward progress has passed from antagonism to boredom. I have long ceased to argue with people who prefer Thursday to Wednesday because it is Thursday.” - G.K. Chesterton

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This will give Mayor Bing in bankrupt Detroit ideas.

Ya think? Maybe there is still a reasonable chance for Lonegan to pull this off.

Only three counties are carrying him so far

Camden, Hudson and Essex

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RON PAUL 2012

That's usually how it works.

Camden, Hudson and Essex are also the three most densely populated areas. This is usually how Democrats pull of victories, but turning out the low IQ rank and file from the most populous areas. It's only in states with smaller populations where sub-urban and rural areas can counteract the tyranny of the cities.

“My attitude toward progress has passed from antagonism to boredom. I have long ceased to argue with people who prefer Thursday to Wednesday because it is Thursday.” - G.K. Chesterton

Lonagen ahead

Or close but only 1% reporting but it is Bookers district

Fighting the good fight is

Fighting the good fight is always needed, but for a state like New Jersey where the ratio of Democrats to Republicans is 4-1... well it's very hard to win.

NJ Senate: County by County tally

http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/2013/10/booker_vs_loneg...

When we try to pick out anything by itself, we find it hitched to everything else in the Universe.
~ John Muir

Isn't Lonegan ahead at the moment?

Although, yes, I expect a late flood of "votes" for Corey.

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Sorry, I don't see any hope

Sorry, I don't see any hope for NJ. No matter how pretty its forests are.

Southern Agrarian

Did Booker

Win? I don't get this post.

I'm just glad democrats get

I'm just glad democrats get to pay out the ass for their retardedness.

Better join the tea party before it's too late.