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URGENT: Oh Hell NO! McConnell Sticks Back Door Trap in Senate Bill

According to Breitbart, the Senate has a provision in it that takes takes away the House of Representatives ability to stop the raising of the debt ceiling with a simple majority. From what I understand the President could veto it and it would then require a 2/3 House Majority to override the veto, which obviously they don't have.

Please get on Facebook pages and twitter of your local US House Reps and warn them of this as many of the phones will be closed before the vote tonight.


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McConnell is a back door man.

McConnell got

the call from Jamie Dimon and he fell in line. The banksters win again.

So I ask again...Does anybody here still believe we can vote our way out if this thing?

So what's your plan?


withhold taxes. And do not comply with the tyranny on a mass scale.


It appears this is nothing. It just allows congress to veto a debt ceiling increase through February. I still haven't found the exact language but I'm curious what it means.

In other news, A nice little 2.9 billion kickback to our senator from Kentucky..and I don't mean Rand. See Section 123 of the bill.

I read it.

It looks like their little project needs funds 3x over budget.

the wording is in the very end of the bill

It's the last subsection of the whole bill

page 28 line 8 is where it starts

Disapproval process-

Tools of war are not always obvious. The worst weapon is an idea planted in the mind of man. Prejudices can kill, suspicion can destroy, and a thoughtless, frightened search for a scapegoat has an everlasting fallout all of its own.

Section 1002 - Default Prevention

It's just an extension on what we already have from the last debt ceiling debate. It basically allows the president to raise the debt ceiling to the level necessary to fund the government until February 7, 2014.

So instead of a debt ceiling amount we have a date....which we apparently had before.


I can't seem to verify this. Do you have the specific section of the law?

No, this is excellent,

it means it won't pass the House, and possibly force the Feds to go without borrowing.

That means the gov't has to shrink by around 40%, which given the hysterics of the sequester, is otherwise impossible. If the stunt works, it works.

If we transition to a government that is 40% smaller while keeping an intact currency, I'm all for it. It's a great start. Then we can start working on the other 59%.

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I can't find any source for

I can't find any source for the assertion but assuming it is true, the House would have to find it in time. Boehner will try not to let them and force the vote before anyone can read it.

I would love it if you were right though.

Thank God my kids will never

Thank God my kids will never have to pay back the national debt.

Yet another transfer of power from Congress to the President.

In the final analysis, this is how Hitler became a dictator. The German legislative branch gutted itself by vote.

Our Congress, although it doesn't seem like ours, is just diminishing its power a little at a time instead of all at once.

It is indeed fortunate that we are on a road to financial, then economic collapse that will lead to the end of the federal government. Give it no more than two decades unless violent revolt begins earlier. If we are lucky the bursting of the debt bubble will bring it down of its own weight and complexity.

Screw them.

"Bend over and grab your ankles" should be etched in stone at the entrance to every government building and every government office.

Have We Crossed The Point of No Return?

Correct, and that power USED to be OUR power IF we decided to wield it. Unfortunately, we and our ancestors have been complacent in allowing this treasonous behavior to continue.

What the hell are you talking about?

If you found something this important ffs link to it.

Here you go.


"Bend over and grab your ankles" should be etched in stone at the entrance to every government building and every government office.

What Page is it on?

What section has the clause the requires 2/3?

"To prove this, let facts be submitted to a candid world."

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