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Poll: How Long do we Have?

Hello you Highly enlightened Very intelligent Human Beings!

I have a question for you: How Long do we Have Left before SHTF?

Whether it's a currency collapse, False Flag attack, War, Martial Law... How much longer do we have before the Constitution is totally disregarded and this country comes out of the Totalitarian Closet.

I think we are witnessing the Bigger Cracks in the Foundation starting to break. We are just catching a climpse of what is to come. Civil unrest, Food Stamp Riots, Inflation, Government Persecutions, Targeted Assassinations, It's all here already... But How long before it's the Norm, Before it's official Government policy?

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Hasn't all that happened already?

Currency collapse: $20 gold in 1933 to $1900 gold in 2011
False Flag: Gulf of Tonkin, Lusitania, 911, Benghazi etc..
Martial law: Shelter in place declared many cities this year.
Constitution: come on that's been completely shredded.
I think you're asking when will the masses realize the S has already HTF. Probably after they're dead.

My bet is 4 months

My gut is telling me by February.

Ron brought the Liberty movement together, Rand is expanding the crap out of it! :)

Nobody knows how long we have

Nobody knows how long we have but bad things seem to be accelerating.

I don't think it would hurt to be prepared with at least a months worth of food and water. If the money becomes worthless it would be good to have things to trade, cigarettes and lighters, pints of alcohol, toilet paper, junk silver, lead, candles, batteries. Turn off all your utilities and see what you would need to survive especially in winter.

my two cents...

1 hour and 42 minutes.

1 hour and 42 minutes.

"Ehhh, What's ups Doc?" B.Bunny "Scwewy Wabbit!"E. Fudd
People's Awareness Coalition: Deprogramming Sequence

As for the real poop HTF, I quote:

38 Now learn a parable of the fig tree—When its branches are yet tender, and it begins to put forth leaves, you know that summer is nigh at hand;

39 So likewise, mine elect, when they shall see all these things, they shall know that he is near, even at the doors;

40 But of that day, and hour, no one knoweth; no, not the angels of God in heaven, but my Father only.

41 But as it was in the days of Noah, so it shall be also at the coming of the Son of Man;

42 For it shall be with them, as it was in the days which were before the flood; for until the day that Noah entered into the ark they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage;

43 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of Man be.

44 Then shall be fulfilled that which is written, that in the last days, two shall be in the field, the one shall be taken, and the other left;

45 Two shall be grinding at the mill, the one shall be taken, and the other left;

46 And what I say unto one, I say unto all men; watch, therefore, for you know not at what hour your Lord doth come.

47 But know this, if the good man of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to have been broken up, but would have been ready.

48 Therefore be ye also ready, for in such an hour as ye think not, the Son of Man cometh.

49 Who, then, is a faithful and wise servant, whom his lord hath made ruler over his household, to give them meat in due season?

50 Blessed is that servant whom his lord, when he cometh, shall find so doing; and verily I say unto you, he shall make him ruler over all his goods.

51 But if that evil servant shall say in his heart: My lord delayeth his coming,

52 And shall begin to smite his fellow-servants, and to eat and drink with the drunken,

53 The lord of that servant shall come in a day when he looketh not for him, and in an hour that he is not aware of,

54 And shall cut him asunder, and shall appoint him his portion with the hypocrites; there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

55 And thus cometh the end of the wicked, according to the prophecy of Moses, saying: They shall be cut off from among the people; but the end of the earth is not yet, but by and by.

"It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a rEVOLution before tomorrow morning." - Henry Ford

Federal Reserve Charter was for 100 years

so, counting down, that means they figured on needing 100 yrs to take control/melt down/harvest the wealth of the new nation.

If SHTF = Crash of the US dollar, then we're just about there...

Problem / Solution - Here we go, a recent article.

"The analysts at Credit Suisse think that the U.S. could actually START SELLING ITS GOLD RESERVES to raise cash. Here’s The Financialist’s Ashley Kindergan:

There are less obvious solutions, too. For one, the Treasury could take steps to sell the country’s gold reserves. Former Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner rejected that tack in 2011 because it would send a signal of absolute dysfunction to financial markets. But as Credit Suisse pointed out in its interest rate strategy note last week, “faced with a choice to either fail to pay someone or to liquidate gold holdings and make everyone whole, Secretary Lew could conceivably argue that it is in the best interest of the public to sell gold in order to avoid jeopardizing the United States’ credit.”

The final step in the fleecing of America....the fat lady will be singing shortly after the gold sell off....nothing of value will be left for them to steal. ( except maybe take title to some of our national parks in lieu of some of the debt) They'll just sit back and enjoy collecting on the debt that our grandchildren will still be trying to pay off, that is, unless there is a revolution of sorts, and follow Iceland's example, and we tell the illegal FED RES we're not paying them interest on printing fake money from thin air.

RP R3VOLution

Well this shouldn't take too long , as

our gold reserves have already been largely ripped off!

(Fat Lady must be at least warming up right about now....)

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What would the Founders do?

After expecting the S to HTF for 20 years

it has become apparent that we are destined for a slow methodical death by a thousand cuts.

Perhaps waiting for the BIG event is why we keep slowly losing.

Why wait?

Why don't We The People START it?

That is probably what it's going to take to fix all the wrongs...

Our family's journey from the Rocket City to the Redoubt: www.suburbiatosimplicity.com

I have the same sentiment.

I have expected the crash for about 20 years, and it still hasn't occurred. So we may be in for a LONG ride still.

But my sense is that foreigners will not keep buying he Fed Reserve Notes forever. The day when they stop buying the dollar, it seems to me, could be ANY day.

"It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a rEVOLution before tomorrow morning." - Henry Ford

I have thought this for the last few years.

Satan knows it's easier to fight when the battle comes at you raging. It's much harder when they take us out so slowly that most never realize there's a war.

Christians should not be warmongers! http://www.lewrockwell.com/vance/vance87.html

late summer onward


If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy.
James Madison

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Predictions in due Time...

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

The S is going to HTF

When? Sooner than we can possibly all prepare for.

Disaster Recovery cannot be the job of FEMA or your Gov't. We all need to start looking at Disaster Recovery as a Community or Neighborhood effort.

What things are CRITICAL to your community's health?
Order (Peace)

Get together with your neighbors and brainstorm how to protect and revive each of these 'systems' in the event of collapse.

An ounce of Prevention is worth of Pound of Cure. Encourage your neighbors to Prepare for a Rainy Day, Week, Month. A hundred ounces of Prevention is worth a thousand fold. Imagine if a thousand people in the same proximity prepared for a Rainy Month.

It is hard to plan for the Unknown, but Critical Systems are easy to define. They are easier to restore if your trying to protect them in the first place.

In my experience, events

In my experience, events normally require more time to develop than we initially imagine. However, the complete opposite COULD occur, i.e. a catastrophic event.

Assuming the current situation deteriorates into 2014, I'd add a few more years. * Does a collapse before 2020 sound reasonable? No one knows for sure.

* Rampant, unaccountable corruption

Lets put

it this way. We will know before SHTF. The Sheeple will get caught off guard. Will be ready. Will survive.

I would say

that we are already there...but then again I am an optimist.

there will be no SHTF

Rather, we are in for a long forecast of fecal drizzle

“The welfare of the people in particular has always been the alibi of tyrants.” — Albert Camus

You can't

print money forever. It can't be that long.

This is a scarier scenario to me, than SHTF...

unless SHTF is a Nuclear holocaust.

Are you a POT or a PET - Person Embracing Tyranny?

When it becomes obvious the next primary election

is rigged and Rand won't be president but Obama will stay another term -- the last president. Before 2015 elections there will be martial law so that Obysmal will demand to stay in office.
Live fully, take a bit more risk, and prep for serious s*it.

Hahaha... If anything,

Hahaha... If anything, Hillary is next. America a isn't ready to strike down the two term limitation.


If Status Quo-bama tries to grab / is allotted another "term", it won't take long for a bullet to find him... never mind that this will wake up a huge portion of the still-sleeping majority to the scam underway.

The PTB know this, of course (Unless they literally seek to sacrifice Obama--the martial law and domestic war that would result may well be their goal, as many of us here have considered.).

But I think it will likely be Hillary, as we are due for a woman leader per popular opinion. And no matter how corrupt this foul bitch is, MSM still rules over enough of the population as their source for news, for now. Plus, all the vociferous argument and debate over her legitimacy will amount to nothing when she gets electronically "voted" into office via our already rigged election system (Not enough people accept the reality of a rigged / faked voting system yet to change anything anyway.).

Fugly it will be. FUGLY.

What would the Founders do?

Michael Nystrom's picture

There is no way of knowing

Trying to guess is a fools game.

Which leaves only one course of action: Live life to its fullest.

Your personal s may h t f tomorrow morning. One never knows.

Get out of your head (worry) and cherish the life you have in front of you.

That is my humble advice.

He's the man.

Michael - this is exactly the conclusion I have come to...

... I used to worry to the point where I literally wouldn't sleep. But I'm making it a point to try to live life and not let this stuff get the best of me. Although, that being said, I'm still taking steps to set my family up to be in a good position when the collapse does occur. I'm also still trying to pass the knowledge on to others. But I'm not letting this run my entire life.

Great point Michael.

And knowing that you started this site, I know you don't mean abandoning individual reasoning, personal responsibility, and returning to the mindless masses.

I absolutely agree with what you said.

Even if you are alone

It's not going to be a "we". Everyday, every second, someone somewhere has just had their SHTF. That's the way the SHTF works.

Remind me of a dead show in vegas back in the 90's. It was a hot day and it was the second break, time for marshmellow wars.

One such war was in full action on the North side of the stadium. Several hundred people were picking up melting marshmellows and slaming each other, hair, clothes, everything was getting creamed with marshmellow.. and this guy starts walking through the marshmellow war zone, and people started throwing marshmellows at him, but none were jitting the guy, so even more people were trying to hit him, and he walked through the zone and not one marshmellow had struck him. S was flying but not one landed on him that day..

Anyways, S happens and that why shtf to suit each individual. Some call it karma. May you escape the melty marshmellows as you pass through the fan zone.

I think you have that backward, Granger :)

You are not supposed to shit on the fan

“The welfare of the people in particular has always been the alibi of tyrants.” — Albert Camus

What am I supposed to do?

throw up on the fan? How backwards is that?

I would say no more than 5

I would say no more than 5 years. If we make it that long without anything major happening, things will probably just grind down slowly for a while.

To climb the mountain, you must believe you can.