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Rand Paul Muslim Bashing

Wow. You sure are losing it.

“From Boston to Zanzibar, there is a worldwide war on Christianity.”

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/10/14/rand-paul-s...



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*Edit - Correction...

Islam is not the world's most popular religion, Christianity is. But Islam is arguably the fastest growing religion. So, my point still holds.

PEOPLE OPPOSING TYRANNY - Real Grass Roots!
Are you a POT or a PET - Person Embracing Tyranny?

Rock the Casbah is a good song!

I think all Muslim nations have completely lost their way when it comes to practicing Sharia. Take Saudi Arabia for example: It oppresses its citizens, rules over them as elites, practices riba, which not only includes interest-banking systems, but also inflationary monetary policy, price controls, and massive increases on debt. The State is literally bulldozing mosques and graveyards to the ground to make way for State-affiliated businesses! When the Arab Spring came to town, they rained money and stimulus programs upon the people to make them happy. And everyone has heard about the elites' un-Islamic behavior in partying and all that stuff. And this happens everywhere in the Islamic World because, like the Prophet predicted in the Hadith, the people would be too scared to fight against tyranny, and complacency to injustice is forbidden in Islam.

As for the Quran being contradictory and my statement "you must choose to obey it voluntarily," I mean you must choose whether you want to follow the religion or not, but no one can force aomeone to follow religion logically because you can only accept faith in your heart and not from the barrel of a gun. But yeah, that quote of mine looks really bad in hindsight! I refuted the supposedly violent verses on twitter and I am planning on posting it up soon. I personally don't believe that Islam is contradictory or promotes violence by the sword, and that's something we should discuss later on.

I appreciate your comments and others on here. It makes me realize that maybe I and other Muslims need to start doing more to spread the message about Islam that it isn't so violent. I look forward to more discussion about this, and I'm learning as I go!

I am a proud libertarian Muslim.

Here are some awesome Islamic Libertarian links:

http://minaret.org

http://muslims4liberty.com

AND TO GET OFF THE NEOCON DRIVEL ABOUT MUSLIMS: http://loonwatch.com

Malala

The lack of support for Malala by Muslim men is ear shattering.

Just read the Koran

Just read the Koran. A real Muslim follows what it says. Well, except Western Muslims. Look up some videos of debates with them including Western Muslims and wake up.

Nothing personal. I'm just well aware that it's not what they claim it to be. Smooth talking nothing more such as Koran 2:256 "There is no compulsion in religion...."

Leave those countries which we never should of gone to to begin with! Like making the dollar less crappy and such.

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Followers of religion does not a religion make.

Yeah, many people are bad when it comes to their faith in statism and Islam, but I fundamentally believe that Muslims have really lost their way from the time of the Prophet, when there was a free, pluralistic, anarcho-capitalist society.

I am a proud libertarian Muslim.

Here are some awesome Islamic Libertarian links:

http://minaret.org

http://muslims4liberty.com

AND TO GET OFF THE NEOCON DRIVEL ABOUT MUSLIMS: http://loonwatch.com

Ron must have been

embarrassed during some of this. oh, i know, he said there were some good ones too, in the past. like the heritage speech, i found this most distasteful.

they hate us because we're free, prosperous and christian? not once did rand mention blowback. is not US foreign policy terrorism?
sounds like he said going to war in iraq was okay because we had to defend ourselves against 9/11, why iraq? were they not mostly saudis? he see's boston marathon bombers as part of the war on christians. really? why didn't they blow up a church then? all faiths were surely at the marathon. rand says the terrorists were treated well "that's what separates us from them" wait a minute didn't the fbi execute a witness? rand says: they see us as invaders. he got that one right.

Muslims have no place in this country

Muslims have no place in this country and are a danger to our Republic because Islam is incompatible with liberty and freedom.

Gee, I wonder...

how you feel about me being on this site!

I am a proud libertarian Muslim.

Here are some awesome Islamic Libertarian links:

http://minaret.org

http://muslims4liberty.com

AND TO GET OFF THE NEOCON DRIVEL ABOUT MUSLIMS: http://loonwatch.com

Completely disagree with this

and I am a Christian. Muslims are welcome here. I totally disagree with their religion but I am not threatened by them.

"Once you become knowledgeable, you have an obligation to do something about it."- Ron Paul

Phxarcher87's picture

multiculturalism is great for this country

and so is affirmative action. How dare you think outside of the 3x5 approved card of opinion.

One of the biggest pitfalls in a "movment" is the temptation to get cultish about it and refuse to realize that it is only part of the picture. -Joel Salatin ; You Can Farm pg 202

I am a Muslim

I believe in the Bill of Rights. I believe in freedom of religion. I voted for Ron Paul when he was a Libertarian and as a Republican. There are many Islamic freedom fighters fighting against so-called Christians and Jews who oppress and kill people who don't live and think like they do. The powerful Zionists have created this environment. Now there is blowback. Communism and socialism is encouraged and supported by many well known Jews. There are also Jews who support liberty and freedom. We should all be judged as individuals and not as members of a group. My 5X grandfather was a patriot during the American Revolution. He was considered a terrorist by his government. Sadly, my government also considers me to be a terrorist. I consider myself to be a freedom fighter. Deo Vindice.

So then you must know more

So then you must know more than anyone the danger of letting these Muslim believers in Sharia law into the country, as you are willing to be beheaded for following what they consider to be mans way, the way of the devil, instead of god's way, as they consider bad Muslims to be worst of all. Europe is already lost from the inside due to their open immigration. The US is next. We must stand up to it. You have to be pretty brave in your case to stand up to it.

PS. I'm not a believer in any religion, so I'm not fighting for one over the other, but I consider Islam to be worse than all the rest. I don't think it even deserves freedom of religion in that it has an embedded political agenda that is completely adverse to our own. It's like if Hitler made the worst political system on Earth into the word of God, and when people believe in God they won't go against it or even question it. It would be the ultimate self sustaining system. Everyone knows you can't contradict God or question him in court, at least not until after you're dead. I guess that's how kings of old often held sway over their people.

I will say I think religious believers are generally great people. The Christians I know have many great traits. I'm sure Muslims are the same. "I have several religious friends." At risk of pissing people off, they are just given to fantasy, which they refer to as faith and the details of their belief. I wish people would grow out of it, and stop trying to make up answers where you have none.

If the Muslim religion continues to grow, it could throw the world into the dark ages for many thousands of years, as no rational thought will be allowed, rational thought won't be discussed, and the history of rational thought will be erased, and our own place in time will be a tiny insignificant blip no bigger than a period on a piece of paper.

Watched it.

Wondered why it didn't make the front page as all things relating to liberty movement.

Thought it was an odd speech but had some interesting highs and lows (pointed out in the op-ed).

Think the op-ed overall mischaracterized the speech but think they got it right when they talked about elevating policy over this obvious attempt at red meat.

The audience tells it all. Their fervent cheers in all the wrong spots and their utter silence in all the right spots. We have some radicals of our own to think about.

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like?

lindsey graham? well, he loved it, and now loves rand too
http://www.politico.com/story/2013/10/rand-paul-shows-softer...

Who cares?

Ron Paul had white supremacists that liked him. That is out of their control. We can't choose who likes us or not. Stay focused on policies.

"Once you become knowledgeable, you have an obligation to do something about it."- Ron Paul

who cares?

you do obviously or you wouldn't have posted.

Lets dig deeper here

Who cares....if graham likes the article?

I don't like graham either but I don't support Rand based on who likes him or not for the same reason I didn't pay a lot of attention to the fact that white supremacist's supported Ron Paul at times.

"Once you become knowledgeable, you have an obligation to do something about it."- Ron Paul

agreed

but lets not act like when a powerful slime like graham applauds rand on any level it shouldn't be questioned, explored--not ignored, or brushed off with a who cares.

i loved the way ron handed the white power group: "why shouldn't i take their money and use it for good, for peace"
-or words to that effect

Phxarcher87's picture

Quran (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who

Quran (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them"

One of the biggest pitfalls in a "movment" is the temptation to get cultish about it and refuse to realize that it is only part of the picture. -Joel Salatin ; You Can Farm pg 202

Um, that was seriously misquoted.

Like really badly. http://quran.com/8/12 This was talking about how in the First Battle of Badr, the Muslims met with their enemies and God spoke to the Angels to aid the Muslims against the Quraysh, who had expelled them from Mecca, seized their wealth and sold it off to the Syrians and Byzantines. Through spying, the Muslims found out that these caravans contained their goods, so they attacked them to take the wealth that was rightfully theirs back. When the leader of the Quraysh, Abu Sufyan heard about this, he called up an army three times the Muslims size and marched to Badr, where the event happened that was described.

I am a proud libertarian Muslim.

Here are some awesome Islamic Libertarian links:

http://minaret.org

http://muslims4liberty.com

AND TO GET OFF THE NEOCON DRIVEL ABOUT MUSLIMS: http://loonwatch.com

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Ok, so let's just all agree to

kill them before they kill us.

How Christian.

Your Bible will beat their Quran, is that what it is?

Count me and mine out, thanks.

Phxarcher87's picture

well

Tabari 9:69 "Killing Unbelievers is a small matter to us" The words of Muhammad, prophet of Islam.

One of the biggest pitfalls in a "movment" is the temptation to get cultish about it and refuse to realize that it is only part of the picture. -Joel Salatin ; You Can Farm pg 202

As for that,

Only anti-Muslim sites have that listed, and I am trying to find where that is. Try finding it for me, because I'm skeptical. If it's anywhere, it's going to be in his Tahdhib al-Athar, but I can't find a compilation of that anywhere online. I'm sure you can't find it anywhere, and the fact that it can't be found openly means quite frankly that very few people actually know about it, the context it was written in, or follow it at all. Keep in mind that Tabari, while a great scholar, did get some things wrong as well, and if it isn't heavily referenced in other Islamic works, it likely isn't approved of by major scholars. But do tell, where did you find this?

I am a proud libertarian Muslim.

Here are some awesome Islamic Libertarian links:

http://minaret.org

http://muslims4liberty.com

AND TO GET OFF THE NEOCON DRIVEL ABOUT MUSLIMS: http://loonwatch.com

That makes total sense! Not!

That makes total sense! Not! Ephesians 5:11-13.

For Liberty! http://youtu.be/GR4WYqabTxU
What If? http://youtu.be/FqAF-Alc7CM
Armed Chinese Troops in Texas! http://youtu.be/XKfuS6gfxPY

Phxarcher87's picture

Judeo Christian Ethics

is what gave this country its foundation. As you can see the authoritarian sects worldwide have surrounded infiltrated and are bringing us down until the next revolution in which a stronger constitution will be written. If you don't see the war on Christianity get some glasses.

One of the biggest pitfalls in a "movment" is the temptation to get cultish about it and refuse to realize that it is only part of the picture. -Joel Salatin ; You Can Farm pg 202

+1, yes. "Judeo-Christian" ideals.... Not a made up word...

No more than any other word is "made up".

Judaism and Christianity are essentially the same religion, at the core.

As a Messianic Jew, I can tell you it one story, one Truth, One G-d.

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Are you a POT or a PET - Person Embracing Tyranny?

That word

was made up. Jews and Christians are different although they do have part of the Bible in common.

The Bible (specifically the 10 commandments) did inform the founding fathers but the Constitution is not spiritual nor is it the highest law for Christians.

The war on Christianity is bigger than America.

"Once you become knowledgeable, you have an obligation to do something about it."- Ron Paul

No, Individual Acts of Courage Gave this Country its Foundation

John Adams an abolitionist throughout his entire life and one of the most outspoken Christians of his time, signed the Treaty of Tripoli specifically stating America was not founded as nor was it created to be a Christian Nation.

Further, his son, John Q. Adams also known as a very outspoken Christian, refused to be sworn in on a bible stating Faith is a PRIVATE matter and instead chose to be sworn in on a Constitutional Law Book as he was pledging to uphold the LAW, not a religion.

WGRR DB - rEVOLutionary talk for revolutionary times. Listen LIVE!

OP grit your teeth and let's take some negs

because this news, though disgusting and repugnant, needs to spread.

Guys if Rand walks away from the base and jumps in with the RINOs it's over for him. And this business of pandering to the evangelical vote?

There is one thing the evangelical vote has proven time and again: they are SUCKERS. They are possibly the least educated and informed segment of voters but they can be suckered in a heartbeat.

Christians should prepare for war?

Yeah ok. So we square this with the NAP and non-interventionist foreign policy how exactly? That's the proper wedge issue here. Not some give-and-take budgetary fiddling. Not some pining for an idealized white America that never was to begin with.

So muslims are the enemy. What's next Rand? Gonna pull us out of Iraq and Afghanistan and close Gitmo?

Because suddenly I don't feel like I know where you stand. Rand.

Be brave, be brave, the Myan pilot needs no aeroplane.

he made this sentiment pretty clear

in the heritage speech too. muslim bad. jew good. antiwar.com blasted the speech but nobody else seemed to care. politicians on the whole give me the willies. i'm just happy i got to meet his dad and work for him, and i continue to spread the message of peace, sound money and personal liberty.