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Oarfish discovery in Southern California makes three rare sea creatures in less than a week

"Less than a week after an 18-foot oarfish carcass was found by a snorkeler in a bay at Santa Catalina Island, another large oarfish was found 35 miles across the channel on the beach in Oceanside."


O-side vid

"The Oceanside discovery was made Friday afternoon by elementary school students" http://www.petethomasoutdoors.com/2013/10/another-oarfish-di...

"Long, slender oarfish, which are presumed to have spawned tales of sea serpents among ancient mariners, inhabit dark depths of the world's oceans. They're rarely encountered, dead or alive.

It remains unclear why two specimens have come ashore in Southern California in so short a period.

One reader on the ABC San Diego Facebook page commented, "Japan radiation."
Interestingly, on Tuesday night, another rare creature stranded on a Southern California beach: a beaked whale at Venice Beach."

Also, from http://www.nbcnews.com/science/can-oarfish-predict-earthquak...

"Can oarfish predict earthquakes? Maybe it's not as crazy as it sounds

Now, some are claiming that oarfish washing ashore is a sign that an earthquake will soon follow. Shortly before the 2011 Tohoku earthquake and tsunami struck Japan, about 20 oarfish stranded themselves on beaches in the area, Mark Benfield, a researcher at Louisiana State University, told LiveScience in an earlier interview. [Video - ROV Captures Bizarre Deep-Sea Oarfish]

The oarfish is known in Japan as ryugu no tsukai or "messenger from the sea god's palace," according to the Japan Times. Dozens of the deep-sea denizens were discovered by Japanese fishermen around the time a powerful 8.8-magnitude earthquake struck Chile in March 2010.

Kiyoshi Wadatsumi, a specialist in ecological seismology, told the Japan Times, "Deep-sea fish living near the sea bottom are more sensitive to the movements of active faults than those near the surface of the sea."

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Update- UCSB finds parasites in oarfish

Everybody out of the pool!!

Between the radioactive water, the South American DDT and the USN pounding the Pacific with ULF pulses, I'd want to get out, too!

Silence isn't always golden....sometimes it's yellow.

"The liberties of a people never were, nor ever will be, secure, when the transactions of their rulers may be concealed from them." - Patrick Henry

It's worse than that ...

mercury, plastics, sewage...
"Toxic chemicals

The input of man-made chemicals to the oceans potentially involves a huge number of different substances. 63,000 different chemicals are thought to be in use worldwide with 3000 accounting for 90 percent of the total production tonnage. Each year, anywhere up to 1000 new synthetic chemicals may be brought onto the market.

Of all these chemicals some 4500 fall into the most serious category. These, known as persistent organic pollutants (POPs). They're resistant to breakdown and have the potential to accumulate in the tissues of living organisms (all marine life), causing hormone disruption which can, in turn, cause reproductive problems, induce cancer, suppress the immune system and interfere with normal development in children.

POPs can also be transported long distances in the atmosphere and deposited in cold regions. As a result, Inuit populations who live inthe Arctic a long distance from the sources of these pollutants are among the most heavily contaminated people on the planet, since they rely on fat-rich marine food sources such as fish and seals. POPs include the highly toxic dioxins and PCBs (Polychlorinated Biphenyls) together with various pesticides such as DDT and dieldrin. These chemicals are also thought to be responsible for some polar bear populations failing to reproduce normally.

Are you eating fish 'n' POPS tonight?

Scarily, seafood consumed by people living in temperate regions arealso affected by POPs. Oily fish tend to accumulate POPs in their bodies and these can be passed to human consumers. When oily fish are rendered down into fish meal and fish oils and subsequently used to feed other animals, then this too can act as a pathway to humans. Farmed fish and shellfish, dairy cattle, poultry and pigs are all fed fish meal in certain countries, and so meat and dairy products as well as farmed and wild fish can act as further sources of these chemicals to humans."


The movie was true! Ahhhhhhhhhhh!

"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."-- Albert Einstein

If people

really wanted to know what killed these creatures in this tech. savvy world they could.
Detection of toxic material can be done!
Damage to internal organ due to sound wave and or other wave impact can as well.




it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--



Earthquake just hit Mexico. Maybe their is some truth to this beaching theory.

WOW. Thanks

6.8 is up there. SoCal hasn't had a Big 1 for quite a while now... we are unfortunately due

Are these creatures are being

Are these creatures are being driven out of deeper waters because of temperature changes? changes in the chemical composition of the waters? perhaps confusion caused by underwater spy vehicles (remember dolphins and whales beaching themselves because of Navy vehicles)? lack of food at depth?

Do these fish remind anyone

Do these fish remind anyone else of the sightings at loch ness?

To climb the mountain, you must believe you can.

made me think about the chinese dragons...


Bizarre Love Triangle

Strange times, Archie.


Don't eat anything out of the Pacific or Gulf of Mexico.

Hey Ralph how did we get radiation in the Gulf of Mexico?

I live down here(in Port Lavaca ,Texas) and eat the local seafood all the time.
I would believe that it is seismic activity sensed through the lateral line that most fish are equipped with. I would be looking for an earthquake and a tsunami to occur.

It is hard to imagine a more stupid or more dangerous way of making decisions than by putting those decisions in the hands of people that pay no price for being wrong.
Thomas Sowell

Have the food checked

Maybe not so much radiation in the gulf but what about all the “dispersant chemicals” that were dumped into the water for the oil spewing. Didn’t hear one thing about the damage that did to the environment.
I wouldn’t eat anything from there either.


I do collaborative work with scientists

from Scripps Institute of Oceanography (SIO). My wife also collaborates with SIO, she is a bio-physicist.

SIO scientists studying the tuna have quietly told others to stop eating the top of the food chain fish due to DDT and radiation. Apparently ALL large fish in the pacific and off the coast of south Africa are heavily contaminated with DDT and the radiation is measurements of these fish are rising. The problem is so bad that these groups are looking to develop cell transporter based drugs to prevent the fish from being to uptake the DDT chemicals. They are working on this but it seems really kind of a fruitless journey to put a band aid over something instead of fixing things at its source of contamination.

The most powerful Law of Nature is Time. It is finite and we all will run out of it. Use this Law to your advantage, for it offers you infinite possibilities...

Thanks for the expert info!

However you scared me multiple times..."cell transporter based drugs"? Oh my!
Burl Ives - I Know An Old Lady



wow; thanks--

it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--


for that information my friend.


Seismic activity makes some sense

effecting deep water fish... radiation is probably effecting everything, but look for more long term issues from that

Occam's Razor

The simplest solution is usually the correct one.

You can't have metric tons of radioactive water dumped into the Ocean and not expect some kind of environmental impact.


But isn't the simplest explanation looking to the past?... This has happened before (hence the Japanese legend) long before electricity