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Ron Paul Places 2nd in Utah GOP State Convention Straw Poll

At the Utah State Republican Convention this past weekend, Ron Paul came in second place with 5.66%.  Mitt Romney carried 81% in the Mormon state.

What is significant is that, unlike online polls, GOP convention straw polls are closely controlled.

According to Ivan Dubois of the Utah State GOP HQ, only registered elected delegates to the convention were able to vote.  No "stacking" of votes can take place, since only elected party activists voted.



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Reasonable Questions about Mormon Mitt Romney

My biggest and number one question about the Mormon Faith now that Mitt Romney has taken an increase the torture, maintain the war stance ....Does the Mormon Bible contain the Beattitudes? If so, How can Mitt justify his pro war stance and claim to follow a God who said "Blessed are the Peacemakers."? Can anyone help me with this already loaded question???

Today is the day of my amazing good fortune!

Mormons

There's no such thing as a Mormon Bible. Mormons use other scriptures in addition to the bible. So, Mormons are familiar with "the Beatitudes".

Remember though that one person's expressions do not necessarily reflect the believes of the church to which that person belongs. In other words, Mitt Romney's opinions might not be a reflection of the opinions of Mormons in general or their church.

Michael Nystrom's picture

This is great news

Well, of course Romney was going to win Utah - it is his country, after all. What about the Iowa straw poll in August? Giulianni and McCain have dropped out of the running, conceding to Romney. A second place for Ron Paul there would be huge.

Does anyone know anyone in Iowa? Can we get an update, please?

Michael

He's the man.

Morman state

Most residents of Utah will vote for Romney because he's Morman. Issues will not matter. Hope I'm wrong.

Traditional Mormon Values Support The Constitution

I am from a Mormon family and have lived around LDS all my life. There are a few things you need to get straight about Mormon values. The Book of Mormon and Doctrine and Covenants (LDS Scripture) clearly state that the Constitution was a Divinely Inspired document. All we have to do is show Mormons how Ron Paul upholds their dearest values, while Romney seeks to denegrate them even further.

 

"(I) believe that governments were instituted of God for
the benefit of man; and that he holds men accountable for their acts in
relation to them, both in making laws and administering them, for the
good and safety of society."

"(I) believe that no government can exist in peace, except
such laws are framed and held inviolate as will secure to each
individual the free exercise of conscience, the right and control of
property, and the protection of life..."

"(I) believe that all men are bound to sustain and uphold
the respective governments in which they reside, which protected in
their inherent and inalienable rights by the laws of such governments;
and that sedition and rebellion are unbecoming every citizen thus
protected, and should be punished accordingly; and that all governments
have a right to enact such laws as in their own judgments are best
calculated to secure the public interest; at the same time, however,
holding sacred the freedom of conscience." (D&C 134: 1-2,5)

I highly recogmend that you read

The Proper Role of Government
by The Honorable Ezra Taft Benson, 13 President of the LDS Church, Former Secretary of Agriculture.

 

 

The following quotes are from this essay

 

"The important thing to keep in mind is that the people in mind is that
the people who have created their government can give to that
government only such powers as they, themselves, have in the first
place. Obviously, they cannot give that which they do not possess. So,
the question boils down to this. What powers properly belong to each
and every person in the absence of and prior to the establishment of
any organized governmental form? A hypothetical question? Yes, indeed!
But, it is a question which is vital to an understanding of the
principles which underlie the proper function of government."

 

"Another standard I use in deterring what law is good and what is bad is
the Constitution of the United States. I regard this inspired document
as a solemn agreement between the citizens of this nation which every
officer of government is under a sacred duty to obey."

 

"Things The Government Should Not Do

A category of government activity which, today, not only requires
the closest scrutiny, but which also poses a grave danger to our
continued freedom, is the activity NOT within the proper sphere of
government. No one has the authority to grant such powers, as welfare
programs, schemes for re-distributing the wealth, and activities which
coerce people into acting in accordance with a prescribed code of
social planning. There is one simple test. Do I as an individual have a
right to use force upon my neighbor to accomplish this goal? If I do
have such a right, then I may delegate that power to my government to
exercise on my behalf. If I do not have that right as an individual,
then I cannot delegate it to government, and I cannot ask my government
to perform the act for me."

 

Romney is a SOCIALIST, when Mormon's see the truth they will return to their traditional values in upholding the Constitution.

 

"All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent."
Thomas Jefferson

"All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent."
Thomas Jefferson

I'm Mormon, too

I've been trying my best to get the word out to all my Mormon family and friends about Ron Paul. I've used this argument as well when talking with them that we've always been for the constitution - so what can I say, but Thanks for giving me something nice to forward in an email to them - we need to get the rest of the brain dead Mormons thinking again... (i mean this in the kindest way)

~Mormon Melissa

Mormon Support

I have to say, these posts encourage me. My Father is a Mormon who lives in Utah. He was understandably very excited when he heard about Mitt Romney running for President.

However, once we started talking about Ron Paul and some things which have gone on in the debates, my father decided to support Ron Paul for President, and he's a Mormon living in SLC who has voted almost straight Republican since 1980. So there is hope the Mormon vote will swing to Ron Paul.

I believe the more Romney is in public and on camera, the more support he's going to lose. He is not well prepared for this race. Dr. Paul by contrast, gains followers everytime he's on, because his ideas and convictions are solid.