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The scariest video you have ever watched in the name of science!

Do you get queasy when you are high in the air? THEN DON'T WATCH THIS! It is about the men who climb radio towers.


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A lot less than you probably think.

" ... he had loved his $10-an-hour climbing job ... "

"For the task of installing a remote radio head, the price sheet said, the carrier would pay the turf vendor $187 and the turf vendor would pay the subcontractor $93."


The telecom subcontracting industry is as corrupt as politics whether it is installing cable, satellite, antennas, or maintaining the backbone. None of the providers use employees for the work because none of them want the liability.

$10 per hr... Didn't see that one coming.

I knew a man who made more than that 30 years ago painting water towers.

Me neither

Isn't the way it's supposed to work in a capitalist system that you get rewarded when you're taking a risk?

When we try to pick out anything by itself, we find it hitched to everything else in the Universe.
~ John Muir

Risk is distorted ...

lets say something bad happens.

Contractor forms a new corporation, dissolves the old one. Who is the subcontractor going to sue? The provider is shielded because there is no contract with the subcontractor and provider. Owners are shielded by the corporate veil. The new company is shielded because there is no contract between the old and new company. It is not illegal to dissolve a company and form a new one. How is your typical subcontractor going to possess any evidence necessary to prove any wrong doing between the two companies exists in order to get financial records of the new company under subpoena? Who has any first hand knowledge of financial wrong doing that can testify under oath to form any facts that can be relied upon to make any determination records for a different company are being placed under subpoena justly? Even if you do get the financial records what wrong doing is one going to prove with them when it is perfectly legal to go bankrupt or dissolve a company?

Contractors know how the game is played. You get what you can, while you can, and default on excess liabilities through bankruptcy or dissolution which is why you see things like assets under one company and all contracting done under another company to keep things nice and clean. The big boys have taught everyone how the loss game is played with one corporation owned by another corporation which is owned by another corporation.

You explained it well. If that's capitalism,

it wouldn't seem to be a good thing. But what kind of system *do* we have? We don't really have free markets. And once the system is messed with at its core, the principles don't apply; in analyzing a situation, it's hard to parse out whether the effect is a consequence of capitalism or some other factor or combinations thereof.

Also, whatever system one would want to call it, we don't have the system envisioned by the founders. For one, for the first half of our existence as a country, corporations didn't enjoy human rights; earlier Americans seemed able to perceive what today's Americans (especially on the right, including some libertarians) seem unable to - that corporations and people are not the same, people being created by God, corporations being created by people, created in the form of state charters that could be revoked if the people felt corporations were no longer well serving the community.

When we try to pick out anything by itself, we find it hitched to everything else in the Universe.
~ John Muir

Steeplejacks seem to be faring a lot better for similar risk.

Average salary is $51,000 according to this link. http://www.indeed.com/salary/Steeplejack.html

That's a nice salary.

Based on this (what the term steeplejack covers), I'd think that the telecom jobs would fall into the same category. Well, I sure do give those guys credit. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steeplejack

When we try to pick out anything by itself, we find it hitched to everything else in the Universe.
~ John Muir