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The ocean is broken (lifeless over 3000 nautical miles)

"I've done a lot of miles on the ocean in my life and I'm used to seeing turtles, dolphins, sharks and big flurries of feeding birds. But this time, for 3000 nautical miles there was nothing alive to be seen."

In place of the missing life was garbage in astounding volumes.

"Part of it was the aftermath of the tsunami that hit Japan a couple of years ago. The wave came in over the land, picked up an unbelievable load of stuff and carried it out to sea. And it's still out there, everywhere you look."

"In a lot of places we couldn't start our motor for fear of entangling the propeller in the mass of pieces of rope and cable. That's an unheard of situation, out in the ocean.

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/1848433/the-ocean-is-broken/



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I sorely miss my seafood

I have not eaten any seafood from the Pacific since it happened. I do not trust that they would share the true dangers with us.

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Fukushima made things 1000x worse.

It continues to poison the ocean and air every day.

I have known about the great

I have known about the great pacific garbage patch for a while. Its pretty sickening and there is little to nothing we can do about it. Plastic photodegrades which means it breaks down into smaller and smaller pieces in the ocean and is eaten by wildlife. You actually cant see most of the plastic because it floats a few feet under the surface.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfcRW7sIrPI

We all share this eternally evolving present moment- The past and future only exist as inconsequential mental fabrications.

Pollution caused by

Pollution caused by agriculture. Pesticide and fertilizer runoff finds its way to the oceans.

Very sad -

Very sad -

He`s got it nailed.

I`ll buy his logic any day over Al Gore or the other freaks.

It is hard to imagine a more stupid or more dangerous way of making decisions than by putting those decisions in the hands of people that pay no price for being wrong.
Thomas Sowell

Boss!

Boss!

Hearing this bit again

and visualizing 10,000 seabirds with bellies full of bottle caps, that is some deeply, deeply cynical humor. Appreciating the entertainment value of our own destruction, I think is the way he puts it.

its also overfishing

These people have shown the market regulates itself to the severest of fashions....till there is nothing left. Perhaps we need less market self regulation and more personal moral regulation.

I go to Asian stores for example and see the huge waste and lack of conscience in the seafood sections. I am sure its the same at food processing plants.

This did not happen on such a scale in a more agrarian society.

Truly sad but waste has no limits in the world of today. I have personally seen what happens in large scale perishable food businesses. It seems it is better to take a loss and be more profitable and throw good food out at times.

It is a detriment to not only the soul and psyche and mindset to see and work in this but to future generations as well. Absolutely no rgard or thanks for the blessings of life we have received. We get what we deserve.

It is true, all I see being washed up on shore is more and more plastic. I cannot stand plastic. I buy detergent in cardboard boxes still!!!

To hell with plastic cars, containers, toys, cards, tools, packaging, ....no wonder the movie The Graduate was promoted so much.

donvino

We gots to change

the way we live people

Any photos to substantiate

Any photos to substantiate this information???

This is more of a rabbit hole

than an assertion requiring a fact check. A little clicking around can give you some indication of the state of the oceans. Charles Moore, linked below, cites 100 billion lbs of thermoplastic pellets produced each year, half becoming packaging. He says we use 2 million plastic bottles in the U.S. every five minutes. I'm looking around my house this morning, and everything is plastic: my glasses, my laptop, my toothbrush, every meal is encased, my shoes, my car...over there's a lighter, a metronome, a recording device, a pill bottle, electric cords, ceiling fan...I'm not even trying...

Imagine a tsunami washing cities out to sea. A recent hurricane off the gulf coast of Texas churned up debris to fill 60 miles of coastal beach with garbage from the bottom of the gulf. It dumped railroad cars up on the beach!

Here is an enlightening site:

http://www.chrisjordan.com/

This thing is real

I have friends that have navigated through it themselves as merchant marines on support ships for the navy.

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so rather than just a picture

so rather than just a picture of the yellow boat interior...surely he can photo all the debris in the water he's talking about... Yes I'm aware of the decadent society with waste and garbage...but since this poster is talking specifically about ocean life within his experience...where's the photos?

You apparently didn't read any of the other comments

I posted this yesterday and it was just below your reply here when you made it. Please find time to read, someone else may have posted supporting sources like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qT-rOXB6NI

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I'm not looking for an ad of

I'm not looking for an ad of someone else's photos. I'm looking for the poster's photos as he describes his own experience... I don't need indoctrination of public viewing.

You do realize?

You do realize? That the OP here at the DP "shrader" was only re-posting an article from here and did not personally experience this, right?:

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/1848433/the-ocean-is-broken/

Do you know how to Google? this thing has been around a long time and there are hundreds of articles with pictures. Are you asking that we all do your homework for you? I have a feeling you will never believe it anyways, maybe you should take a cruise out there for yourself?

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??? I'm tired.

??? I'm tired.

No problem,lol

Been there done that myself a lot of times. lol

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YouTube or it didn't happen!

Here are some photos. I put 'ocean debris' in Google and clicked on images.

https://encrypted.google.com/search?tbm=isch&q=ocean%20debri...

The new information from the article is tsunami debris and absence of wildlife. It doesn't appear this was a research or documentation expedition, just a guy. People can have important information, even if they don't have pictures, right?

The Great Pacific Garbage Patch

The Great Pacific Garbage Patch is a massive dump of floating garbage in the Pacific Ocean. We contribute to it everyday by littering and using un-biodegradable materials.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qT-rOXB6NI

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Very sad.

And it's only compounded by the fact that the climate change fearmongering is keeping people from mounting a clean-up effort. Burning the fuel to do it would cause more harm than just leaving it alone? -- give me a break. Madness has set in.

Since most of the stuff is plastic

they should be able to incinerate it and use that
for fuel - can be done pretty cleanly with the tech
that's available these days.

Absolutely

When I found out about this thing over three years ago I started wondering how it could become a profit source while doing some good at the same time.

I found and emailed a company that makes the equipment to cleanly make fuel from plastic. They are doing this in some places in Asia now. I also checked into what can be made from recycled plastics.

I realized that a large factory ship specially designed to perpetually scoop (mine) and process the plastics into fuel and other needed products on the fly could be both profitable and clean it up at the same time.

Even the support vessels could be fueled from this process to transport the finished products and crews to and from the factory ship. I really think is not a bad idea at all.

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Some ideas for

robotic debris collectors

http://vamfun.wordpress.com/tag/ocean/

I guess it is so real that...

I guess it is so real that I am not the only one trying to figure out how to clean it up? lol. Thank you.

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One of the worst discoveries

in recent years, to me, was the field of garbage twice the size of Texas, captured in the Pacific Gyre. This sounds much, much worse.

The gyres are a natural feature of the oceans

this one in the North Pacific is the same gyre as before but has
had massively more crap dumped into it by the last tsunami.

And the *next* tsunami - which will likely hit the more populated
Pacific coast of central Japan will likely generate even more than the
Tohoku one of a couple years ago.

Not a happy thought.

check your facts , I heard it`s about the size of Houston.

Try to Google Earth the trash line.

It is hard to imagine a more stupid or more dangerous way of making decisions than by putting those decisions in the hands of people that pay no price for being wrong.
Thomas Sowell