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Ron Paul: 'I Say It's Time For A Second Party'


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"I understand the frustration because there's a lot of that, and I get the question a whole lot," Paul said with a laugh. "I say it's time for a second party. Because we just have one party there, they're the same on all the big issues."

Paul said the Republicans and Democrats "argue over power," but not really the direction of the country. But rather than start a third party, which would be extraordinarily difficult, even down to getting into the debates, Paul argued that it would be better to tackle "the intellectual climate that will change the ideas of both parties."



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Not another party, but another way.

http://arneighbors.org/ Start something like it where you live. Not for federal office, because we can't play in that league yet, but there is absolutely no reason your county judge or state representative should be vetted and routed through an organization HQ's 1000 miles away that lives off money from global corporations. You should do that locally.

Localism is for people who can still sleep at night even though somebody they don't know in a city they have never been is doing things differently. ("Localism, A Philosophy of Government" on Amazon for Kindle or Barnes and Noble ebook websites)

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Ron Paul Republican Party

yep...

goldenequity

I need the link to that picture, asap, if possible. Please?

"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul

Right click on it...

And go to Properties.

Just Google "The Illusion of

Just Google "The Illusion of Free Choice".

With liberty and justice for all...who can afford it.

Meh.

The problem isn't the party. The problem is the apparatus as a whole.

http://dollarvigilante.com/storage/2011/2011-11-november/Peo...

It's not the apparatus

Unless you can replace what you have, which a global government would achieve, then it's about restoring what is good, including the people by, for and of the apparatus.

Replace it with what?

What do you replace cancer with?

Just remove it altogether.

It is the apparatus. The principle of it. Each and every individual is susceptible to making bad decisions or acting immorally.

We know this to be inherent in all of us. It doesn't simply go away when governments are instituted. Instead the immoral tend to flock to the power structure.

Depends on the cancer

If you're angelina Jolie you remove your breasts and replace them with a new improved set, some replace them with a tattoo that looks like a shirt, and some replace them with falsies, the point being that "nothing" is not possible because FORCE is what people, who do both good and bad things, do whether it's by fist, club, gun, drones, lies.. FORCE is what we attempt to control with the apparatus.

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Brilliant!

This man NEVER ceases to amaze me.

He has always had his finger on the pulse of this Nation (like a good Doctor always does) and diagnoses the problem.

History will show that AMERICA missed her last, great opportunity to avoid reLOVEution when the power elites, the oligarchs, the puppets in government, and the media whores and presstitutes stole this true voice of reason from the people.

its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
Rockin' the FREE world in Tennessee since 1957!
9/11 Truth.

Classic!

Time For A Second Party

Ron Paul doesn't only acknowledge the elephant in the room, he shoots it dead.

The law cannot make a wicked person virtuous…God’s grace alone can accomplish such a thing.
Ron Paul - The Revolution

Setting a good example is a far better way to spread ideals than through force of arms. Ron Paul

New Party

How about the Privacy Party? Not really a new party, but a power base like the Tea movement. A power block to be held aloof of party backstabbing until such time as one of them (right, sure) grows up enough to stop looking up our skirts and down our throats. We put up "Privacy Party" candidates, perhaps, even Indy or neo-Demo in primaries.
Same genius as a Tea Party, only more to the point.

"To the morally inverted, war appears as a quick, clear path to the top." -- Preston Parker
firelightermedia@gmail.com

Agreed

Or at least a successful 3rd

http://facebook.com/FreeDominionPoliticalParty

Thank You Ron Paul

for continue to push me to spread the message of liberty freedom end the Federal Reserve and Sound money https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXNH5wFKORI

Albert Camus — 'The only way to deal with an unfree world is to become so absolutely free that your very existence is an act of rebellion.'

~ What a shame! Huh? ~ If

~ What a shame! Huh?
~ If Glenn Beck just refrained from maligning Ron Paul in 2008 and 2012 his vast audience MAY have supported Ron Paul for president.
~ If Glenn Beck actually set aside his blood lust for the Global War FOR Terror and actually Supported Ron Paul in 2008 and 2012 we might be living in a more prosperous, more peaceful and more free country today.
~ Those are valid reasons pertaining to the resentment Freedom loving Ron Paul supporters have for Glenn Beck even to this day.
~ I speak for my self and I believe I am right when I say that Glenn Beck still displays the symptoms of a "dry drunk". One who goes on egotistical "power drives" that destroy the lives of those around the drunk.
~ With a massive media platform a dry drunk can have a devastating effect.
~ And Glenn Beck has (as they say in AA) "Done the Research".
~ Forgiveness and Acceptance are not the same.
~ I forgive Glenn Beck for aiding and abetting Obama's election and re-election.
~ But I sure as hell don't accept it. And I'll never trust a dry drunk. Never.

All good points Barracuda

and Glenn Beck is still the spokesperson for a certain gold dealer that blatantly has ripped people off, all the while having a shrine to Glenn Beck at their headquarters (as described by a NYTimes reporter who interviewed me).

This gold dealer ended up paying $4.5 million in restitution, and hired a K St. lobbying firm and the NY Times story going after Glenn Beck was subsequently dropped.

Sean Hannity also is this same gold dealers spokesperson. They know that mostly conservatives buy gold so naturally they go after Beck and Hannity to be the "trusted source" and Beck/Hannity don't care about the companies past history or the fact their listeners are buying from them. They are just looking to make a buck.

Never trust either of these cats.

Author of Buy Gold and Silver Safely
Next book: Illusions of Wealth - due out soon
Also writing book We the Serfs!

That is so true

Glen Beck, along with most of the influential so called "conservative" media personalities did everything they could to defeat Paul in the primaries. Listening to the same media personalities now, they all sound like Ron Paul, from Levin, Hannity, Rush, the faux news people, I wonder how many of them look back and realize they were wrong?

They knew what they were

They knew what they were doing back then, it's not like they didn't know. The powers on high told them to do so. Just wait till it comes around election time again. And don't forget it wasn't just them it was most of the media ABC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC, most of magazines, newspaper's, etc.

Ron Paul remains a Republican

He's talking about changing the GOP

RON PAUL remains a Patriot

Ron Paul,the good DR.,is trying to change a mindset,not a party.The Good DR.is trying to Administer "truth" as A prescription,to the many AFFLICTIONS of Fraud, Deception,and Propaganda fed to us from "birth" (1913-2013).....by WHO?..WHO?...A one party poker game. The Good DR. RON PAUL,Has said not once but repeatedly, since he FIRST ran for POTUS, that it may take the total COLLAPSE , to end this system,to bring back,SOUND MONEY,TRUE FREEDOM,...only and ONLY! If there are enough people,Awake and ready to never let the same BA%tards that got us here,....Rise up , play the savior,and do it again. RON PAUL could care less if it was the BOZO THE CLOWN PARTY, as long as they followed the CONSTITUTION!, Really understood what liberty,freedom,property,and the RIGHTS! there to are!The Good DR., says we need a second "PARTY"because the GOP AN DEMS, run this poker game.Ron wants us to change the GAME,not the PARTY.GET RID OF THE CORRUPTION,FOLLOW THE CONSTITUTION, and take it from there.

LIVE FREE OR DIE ...GOT BULLETS?

Ron Paul remains a Republican

At the past CA GOP Fall Convention, three Caucus had Ron Paul's books on thie tables. Speaches have Ron Paul's phrases.. candidates were Ron paul's campaigners...all GOP. Ron Paul has changed the GOP and we are that change in the GOP Liberty.

Those of us in the GOP do not want a collapse, but to RESTORE the Republic, which we are.

The GOP has changed many times since Lincoln, Ron Paul said, "It has lost it's way", and so we are helping the GOP find it's way back to constitutional government, out of the UN.

The Liberty GOP is the second Party.

Stay involved Granger,

But like Dr. Paul, don't EVER give up the principles he has stood for.

You have shown your appreciation for America.

Tell you what, base1aransas

So many people are under the influence of MSM and they have NO idea how much, but I can tell the instant they say anything about the GOP, because the GOP is a MSM fabrication unless you are in it, and then it becomes a matrix, a whole new ballgame, and those who are not in the GOP at this time, are missing out HUGE on the rEVOLution taking place that is not being televised.. but you can get glimps of it here on DP when not downvoted to oblivion.

Right and wrong.

It depends on the area.

There are some areas where r3VOLution is taking over. Still, there are a vast number that are not. This I know first hand.

Though I will not quit, I have come to terms that this Republic will need to reset itself, if we are ever going to regain our Freedom. It is very unlikely that it will happen during my lifetime. There is no single answer. If was that easy, everybody would be doing it.

"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul

consider

So goes CA, so goes the nation.

CA establishment (Reinse Preibus) days are numbered.

It will happen very quietly and suddenly. "Poof" liberty will be born, and you will wonder where the hell these people came from.

When you say, "There is no single answer", do you mean solution? What is the question? "What does Ron Paul mean by the need for a second party?"

Do we look at what Ron Paul does as much as what Ron Paul says? Ron Paul remains in the GOP. There's your clue. So you eat lunch by yourself for decades.. for me it was for over a year.

Politics is a business, so if you have a product, Liberty or Freedom for example, and you have a platform, Ending the FR/Auditing the IRS, you have few options available to campaign, and the more serious you are, the bigger the party because of the money.. people get paid on many levels in politics.. Bush gutted the GOP and why so many of us are able to get on committees. There's room in many places and people should be encouraged to go to meetings and see for themselves what MSM BS is about the GOP.

"do you mean solution?"

Ron is rhetorical, meaning that Republicans who were once conservative and defenders of Liberty, Freedom, have lost their way. Republican today is no different than Democrat, thus the need for a second party [ie: Republican, Libertarian, or whatever term that promotes Freedom and Independence].

A product that is not honestly represented or that nobody cares about or wants is a product that goes unnoticed. Take for example Democrats, and establishment Republicans; they do align themselves with us [Freedom and Liberty], thus the reason that we are in the condition that we are in today.

If there are openings, take them. If there are not, fight for them. I urge all to participate in meetings and their communities. But to be effective, there must be proper representation, and a willingness to see and embrace the truth.

"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul

A DP poster once said

The Republican Party is smeared in shit.

This is true. It is not an accident. MSM has smeared the GOP in feces, and people do NOT want to get dirty.. but you got to get dirty to clean it up, and that's what we are doing.

There's the truth.

Dirty? Once again, you are WRONG.

It is, in fact, FILTHY!

At first I had to roll up my sleeves. Since then, I have discovered that it easier to not wear them at all.

If it is a fight that they want, it is a fight that they will most certainly lose. Speaking for myself, of course :-)

"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul

OK

People don't want to get filthy, but it's not a fight they are looking for, a clean up crew.. and that's fine by me. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vh-2_kdVcyA