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Garan's picture

Please Stop Spreading Your Mis-Information

Ignorance is bliss, and you are wrong.

Saying "All of it" is an overstatement that is easily disproved by a single counter example: a computer that does not operate on binary (2-value) machine code. For example, a computer that operates on 3-values (ternary) machine code: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ternary_computer

Here is a little irony for readers of this tit-for-tat:

Be like the government. Down-vote the truth.

Since you persist

I will calmly Debate you when I get back from town tonight. And no I did not down vote any of your replies, I don't use the down vote feature at all, I don't like it. It was other users that read your reply not me.

You are right about the ternary logic application, but it would be the only one I know of. I had forgotten about that one because it was so successful?. Please have a great day my friend!


If I disappear from a discussion please forgive me. My 24-7 business requires me to split mid-sentence to serve them. I am not ducking out, I will be back later to catch up.

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I got a little out of hand.

In retrospect, my response to you was really a response to all of the responses to my comment as well as a response to a pet peeve of mine.

I think that people short-change themselves if they think that programmers push around numbers all day.

So, my overall effort of aggressively arguing/responding to (what I see to be) negative replies is not necessarily coming from your comment.

Given that the subject of discussion involves the 'translation' and different ways of looking at data/code (different interpretations), I would only argue for the fun of exchanging views. A serious argument would probably not be beneficial to anyone.

Just as a spoiler... I would argue that even assembly-languages (with their hexadecimal, octal, and even binary coding) are symbolic languages. :)

No problem my friend

Here's the deal, I had an older mentor, George, that programmed for IBM for many years in the 50's and 60's when everything was tape drives that then went to the famous "RAMAC" hard drive disks about 2 ft in diameter with only one "linear" reading head.

George worked together with the "guy" that founded the Disk operating system called QDOS while on the IBM PC project. Of course we know now that Bill Gates stole this from him, went over his head and bought the rights to license it as MS DOS. He did not program any of it. He stole it from George and his buddy.

I have another friend Mark, who's father milled all the solid gold "Buss" parts for the first space shuttle. Mark himself was helping burn the chips to put into the same shuttle circuit boards. Mark taught me about how layering and burning creates the on/off switches in all chips that process binary and how they do process binary.

I learned a lot back in the late 70's and early 80's from these guys, George tried to teach me what he had worked with at IBM, Algol, Cobol, APL and PL/1. I just could not get into how complicated it truly was and so he settled on teaching me Basic, Pascal, C and C++ (this was before DOS). Even this burnt me out and I got away from programming for many years as I raised 3 kids and took care of running my business.

So I decided that I might need something to fall back on in my upcoming old age to make a buck. I posted here about 3 years ago at the DP asking for a good script to load onto a server. Well this started a new age of learning for me about current languages and how things now work compared to the days of BBS and Telnet. I am open to all the help I can get.

I have now been dabbling with PHP, perl, Java and SQL languages as I am retraining myself to how compiling and referring batches everything up to turn on and off the binary switches in the layers of the Core. The core I understand, The new Compiling and referring symbols and characters in current coding that tells the core how to process the binary I am now slowly beginning to catch up on.

I have just been away from it too long and it has changed extremely in leaps and bounds. But I do know this, Logic is all just on/off switches in the chip and the language only controls the binary base that tells the chips and CPU's when to open or close the circuits. Been this way for a long time.

I cant even get into the algorithm coding another friend of mine did for years while working at Ratheon. (now this guy is a nut,lol). How lucky you are to have all of those guys that did the work to give you the power of entering just one character or symbol that does the binary processing that used to take a whole mainframe to process. Lucky indeed.

If I disappear from a discussion please forgive me. My 24-7 business requires me to split mid-sentence to serve them. I am not ducking out, I will be back later to catch up.

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What about other digital media?

Are digital photos not images but ones and zeros?

Are digital books just ones and zeros?

Did you include ternary (not binary) computers in your assessment of "All of it"? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ternary_computer

BTW, I didn't make the mistake of saying all binary programs run on electrical circuits, because there have been wooden and metal mechanical computers as well.

Did you know that the first computers were... people.

They computed massive look-up tables for math using some of the same informational techniques employed by modern binary digital computers.

I don't think those human computers used the binary base very often (now I'm just trying to be funny).

The down votes given to my attempts to share information and insights regarding common misperceptions of programming suggest I am wasting my ones and zeros writing these comments on this matter, so intend to stop. :)

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..and "binary as base" translates to other things as well.

..such as digital circuits, logical gates, electrical-analog methods (electricity flowing through stuff), redirection of energy.

However, I would not say that programmers (in general) deal with such things.

To illustrate how I see your comment (no offense, yet this is my reaction), here is an analogy:

Bosses often issue verbal commands, but those words all translate to vibrations of air. So, bosses are only vibrating air.

To those who know, saying programming is all about ones and zeros, makes you look ignorant, often funny, yet ignorant. ..even if you find yourself in a room of people who agree, ignorant.

I don't mean to offend. I'm just giving fair warning to those who perpetuate ignorance.

Leave that club and you will be better for it.

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So.. why is nobody saying what IT team messed this up?

Other businesses need to know who they shouldn't do business with.

In a diseased system...

laughter is the best medicine!

Thanks for that!

"We are not human beings having a spiritual experience; we are spiritual beings having a human experience"—Pierre Teilhard de Chardin

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Laughter is also a #1 way to fend off psychological attacks.

Laughter is a survival skill.

100% Agreed

Laughter is a physical symptom of a sudden moment of happiness/joy. They're degrees of LOVE.

Let's not be shy to get deep about it ;)

Practicing Love (yeah, unfortunately it requires practice to undo the inducement of Fear/hate) has been nothing short of "magical" in my life especially in coping with "waking up" and the cognitive dissonance that accompanies it as a result. But WOW! What a life-changing (resetting?) experience it is to see through these "new eyes".

I remember getting a very early lesson in the power of laughter when I was in elementary school. One year one of my former friends began picking on me and bullying me after school. A few times I was able to sneak out through a back door and other times I wasn't so lucky. One day something just clicked and the fear of him just vanished and I began taunting him and laughing in his face in front of a bunch of other people when he tried to act tough. It caught him so off guard and made him feel so powerless that he never tried anything ever again.

It's a lesson I still apply today when faced with hostile people or someone attempting to argue with me just for the sake of arguing. Their aim is to frustrate you until you loose your cool and you end up looking like the "crazy" one. Just laugh and walk away rather than feeding into the momentum of negativity. Works wonders!


"We are not human beings having a spiritual experience; we are spiritual beings having a human experience"—Pierre Teilhard de Chardin

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Nefarious people sometimes try to "run you down" to defeat you.

Taking all things seriously opens one up to such attacks.

I hope we don't see laws against laughing or finding things humourous.
That would be an ultimate form of control.

It's also a big irony that freedom lovers are faced with enough political strife to undo them.

We should all keep a clear perspective, and keep laughing.


Amazing how much Truth is out there in plain sight.

Thanks for the reminder! :)

"We are not human beings having a spiritual experience; we are spiritual beings having a human experience"—Pierre Teilhard de Chardin

that totally rocked

that totally rocked

Be Your Own Media!!!

How is Mario and Pac-Man stuck in 4&5 coding?



try my product.



I use Blue Wave, but don't expect one of THEIR silly taglines.




Hey, I remember that guy.

I didn't buy his product. I had my son help me. Now, my grandson helps me.

Too funny.

Too funny.

If you walk blindly through life, you will run into a lot of walls.

LOL... 4's & 5's...


Reminds me of the Bill

Reminds me of the Bill Clinton $3 bill.