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Saudi Arabia severs diplomatic ties with US over response to conflict in Syria

Saudi Arabia's intelligence chief is vowing that the kingdom will make a 'major shift' in relations with the United States to protest perceived American inaction over Syria's civil war as well as recent U.S. overtures to Iran, a source close to Saudi policy said on Tuesday.

Prince Bandar bin Sultan told European diplomats that the United States had failed to act effectively against Syrian President Bashar al-Assad and the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, was growing closer to Tehran, and had failed to back Saudi support for Bahrain when it crushed an anti-government revolt in 2011, the source said.

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More Evidence Michael Scheuer Knows What He's Talking About

He has long stressed that it's not just the Israelis but also the Saudis whose wars we have been fighting.

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"Bipartisan: both parties acting in concert to put both of their hands in your pocket."-Rothbard

What Israeli wars

have we been fighting?

Iranian Sanctions Are An Act Of War

That would be an example.

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"Bipartisan: both parties acting in concert to put both of their hands in your pocket."-Rothbard

what

do our sanctions with Iran have to do with Israel? Our sanctions with Iran have more to do with their competition Saudi Arabia.

Why Is Prime Minister Netanyahu

discouraging John Kerry from negotiating with Iran?

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"Bipartisan: both parties acting in concert to put both of their hands in your pocket."-Rothbard

Because

Prime Minister Netanyahu wants Kerry and the USA to leave Israel out of it their negotiations with Iran. Americans are causing more problems for Israel, who wants to seperate from the USA. The USA thinks Israel needs it.. it's the other way around and Netanyahu whats America to know that.

The USA should take it's troops, and it's frns, it's occupations and go home.. do for America what Netanyahu is doing for Israel, because Israel knows what to do about Iran and they don't need or want America. America needs to fix America.

Netanyahu is a great Prime Minister.. Egypt, Libya, Syria, Gaza and Occupied Trans Jordan, and Lebanon have been urupting in violence for years and Israel has not gotten entangled in any wars.

Don't need or want?

Then why do they spend so much on aipac and why do we send so many frn over there?

"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."-- Albert Einstein

Because

The Israelis have established an environment for creating, producing, distributing intellectual property and service. They are coming up with mind blowing inventions and solutions, and the US is addicted because the way our system is rigged.. the big money goes into these "wheels" (gadgets, gizmos, inventions like magnetic wheels.. or computers..). military always gets ths stuff before the public.. so the contracts are very lucrative, and the US gets the first shot at bidding to make a patent claim on these inventions.. When a patent is not bought, it's like John Galt's engine.. hidden away somehere waiting for the right people and time to emerge. When it it bought, it usually looks for a place in the military, and onme reason we have endless wars, always needing to test and certify the new "toys" for the rich and ruthless.

You're ignoring the elephant

In the form of aid to the Israelis and military equipment from here.

"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."-- Albert Einstein

Israel is a great investment

What military equipment from here?

the equipment invented by the Israelis we bring here http://www.haaretz.com/news/world/1.551446

At this point, I think those who say we should not give money to Israel have NO idea what we get from Israel, but they are under the influence of the NWO propeganda on YouTube.

I would cut aid to all the countries that burn USA flags and invest in Israel. Israel is the LAST foreign aid I would cut.

We need Israel more than Israel needs us and I hope people wake up to that truth. Hey know why Israelis are in US government? because Americans don't.

The USA gives Israel billions

Each year, and were not even talking single digits of billions. Not trade but aid. Look it up.

"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."-- Albert Einstein

I have looked it up

To me, if the USA took ALL the foreign aid money and invested it in Israel, the entire world would prosper, rather than watch FRNs buy rockets to hnlow up Israel and burn American flags.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_foreign_aid

What's interesting about that link to me is the dates go to 2011, and I just saw a report about Israel's economy, which has been growing stronger the past three years..

have you checked out Israel's economy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Israel

Look it up some more

http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/mideast/RL33222.pdf

"Israel is the largest cumulative recipient of U.S. foreign assistance since World War II. To date,
the United States has provided Israel $118 billion (current, or non-inflation-adjusted, dollars) in
bilateral assistance."

"In 2007, the Bush Administration and the Israeli government agreed to a 10-year, $30 billion
military aid package spanning from Fiscal Year (FY) 2009 to Fiscal Year 2018. During his March
2013 visit to Israel, President Obama pledged that the United States would continue to provide
Israel with multi-year commitments of military aid subject to the approval of Congress."

"For FY2014, the Administration is requesting $3.1 billion in FMF to Israel and $15 million in
Migration and Refugee Assistance. The Missile Defense Agency’s FY2014 request for Israeli
Cooperative Programs is $95.782 million, including $52.607 million for Arrow III, $32.512
million for David’s Sling, and $10.663 million for Arrow II. The Department of Defense also is
requesting $220 million in FY2014 Procurement, Defense-wide funds for Iron Dome."

and on and on...

"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."-- Albert Einstein

looking

and I don't see it your way.. how about comparisons, which the fas web sute is down and inly the pdf on Israel available (why only Israel?) anyways: http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2013/07/us-aid-to-afghanista...

here' a pdf on Afghanistan 2012 http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2013/07/us-aid-to-afghanista...

"The USA should take it's

"The USA should take it's troops, and it's frns, it's occupations and go home.. do for America what Netanyahu is doing for Israel, because Israel knows what to do about Iran and they don't need or want America."

Your quote.

Sure, the Israelis do some good things, and they invent some new things and make some new weapons. What you're missing is they do it with American money and technology and personnel, quite often. Look, if you want to believe there is no such thing as aid to Israel, then you're just being silly. The fact that it's number 3 on the list of countries we've provided aid to - even in your attachment - just underscores that. Of course it is less than in countries where we have been fighting an active war for the past ten years and then trying to teach them how to govern like sane people.

I'm not sure what your point is, but if Israel really doesn't want to accept our federal reserve notes, I propose a unique new plan, where they can give them back to me. I'll take a 33 1/3 contingency fee, then return the balance to the U.S. Treasury. Hey, a guy's gotta eat! Right?

"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."-- Albert Einstein

My point

Israel does give the money back in the form of scientific and technological advancments. One might think that one on a computer could appreciate that.

The problem from my perspective, t6he government uses the military and contracts to test.. US military had computers long before the population. So as long as advancement comes through military, we wind up with endless wars for the sake of human advancement.. and there's the irony or hypocracy.

Studying Israel has been very facinating and educational for me.

Israelis LOVE Isarel and strive to thrive, where America appear very apathetic by comparison. The solution is to compete with Israel rather than be dependent.

agree in part

especially the part about American apathy...that is a huge problem...even when we become activists it is like Americans are 'apathetic activists' in that they spend their time on conspiracy theories and other nonsense designed to fill their time with air.

What you say is also in part true about getting return on investments. My dad worked in aerospace and used to talk about how the money spent on it was returned in the value of the new technologies that were created. My carbon fiber seatpost on my bike owes gratitude to the space program and the taxpayers for its existence. But I guess my beef is with doing that with Israel, instead of with us.

I suspect there may be some reason for it that has to do with avoiding legal restrictions on what is developed or how it is developed, that exist here in the U.S. In Israel, they don't mess around as they view their world as a battlefield.

"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."-- Albert Einstein

Yes, a great investment if tyranny and genocide

is your goal! Your dream is coming to fruition. Great job!

"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere".
--Voltaire

It's hard not to be a menace to society when half the population is happy on their knees. - unknown

I believe it's completely the opposite

Can you debate this vid Ira? I mean I'm sure you can lob insults and call names, but can you eliminate such fillers and debate this on an intellectual level? Here's five Palestinian lies you believe.

24 minutes http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FebTbi9_3b0

If you wake up Ira, you might find the path to peace is love, not just for the victims of one side, but ALL innocent victims.

It would be nice if we could have a debate about Israel, but you have to understand the history and laws, the governments and the peoples, and end the violent name calling and insults.

I think it's an important topic, and I think I offer a great opportunity for the DP community to debate with someone who is a long time member and experience as a Ron Paul grassroots activist rEVOLutionary, Ron Paul Republican and delegate.

I woke up recently and why I support Israel. I am convinced there are two enemies against Israel, those who have bought into the YouTube/ANSWER/ 911 conspiracy theory antiwar propeganda (not that there are not real issues), and those who profit off Israel.. they cover Israel in crap to turn people away.. it's how they "bury their treasure".. if Americans knew what was really going on in Israel, America's government would have a hell of a time scraping the constitution.. people wouldn't let them.. But when you have a so called Liberty Movement standing with the UN global government, Palestinian Authority (most here have NO idea what they is) and radical Islam.. and accuse Israel of genocide and tyranny.. Liberty Movement might as well be an Occupy Movement.. what frustrated people who let duel citizens take political power in their hometowns because they refuse.

So what's it going to be Ira, more name calling and insults to replace an actual debate? What's your level?

Word

saled!

Debating with a fool? I think not!

"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere".
--Voltaire

It's hard not to be a menace to society when half the population is happy on their knees. - unknown

Word Salad not saled.

Did you watch the vid? You want to know what I think about Israel.. there's a vid for you and I'm happy to debate that.

Word salad suits me as word arsenal suits you.

peace

I did watch the video

So what? Why is the YT important? Because you always attack people who disagree with you as YT educated dolts, then you go and use YT to justify your ignorance.

The video completely discredited itself at the very end when it said the arguments against your homeland are not Politically Correct! Sheesh Granger, get a grip!

Good luck with that GOP cesspool you are swimming in. Even if you are "successful" (which I highly doubt) you are still going to come out of it completely covered in yourself!

BTW, I had no idea dyslexia comes and goes.

"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere".
--Voltaire

It's hard not to be a menace to society when half the population is happy on their knees. - unknown

Who?

Who and how am I attacking anyone? I don't disagree with those who are making excuses to deliver the lies told in that vid, but I feel no need to insult anyone because I believed the lies and had my own excuses, some very simular if not the same ones.. mea culpa of the same feelings.. so I'm not knocking anyone.

I only woke up about the truth about Israel a few months ago and I'm happy for it.

The arguments against Israel and the US are not polically correct, they are globalist propeganda.

As for that GOP cesspool.. It's been very educational.. I'm glad I got in, glad I went through the ropes, and now it's a liberty committee, and what do we want to do? What would you do Ira.. We have the power.. should we

#1. build the liberty republican party in the county (give them the $$$, tools, permits, connections)

#2 eliminate the GOP from the county.

It's my "x" that's going to be on the box delivering the news to the state and nation whether the county committee I'm on becomes a Liberty Republican power beacon or shut it down, give the complete control to the Democratic Party.

Yeah, being in this GOP cesspool really has been a trip.. I don't regret it..

This is the root

of our system. Cheap fuel enables everyone's monthly payments on mortgages and car loans. Would the Federal Reserve ponzi scheme tumble without it?

Did President Obama fail to carry out Prince Bandar's wishes in Syria?

This is the guy they call Bandar Bush ...

... because he has been close to the Bush family for many years.

He is just putting on a show. Nothing more.

Phew - just when I was just getting worried I would not

have to carry an Amex Black card on me just to fill my truck up. Thanks GOD! This should finally stop the god damn gas prices from falling.

Geesh if it had got to 3 dollars a gallon this effing country may just have seen some recovery. Oh and damn - CT would have lost millions in gas tax revenue.

Crisis avoided.

When do we launch the drones?

As much as I detest Israel, I

As much as I detest Israel, I really detest the House of Saud. They have some nerve opposing Assad given their own human rights record. The House of Saud is the epitome of oligarchy and everything wrong in the Middle East. Let them protect themselves on their own, just like Israel. Screw the House of Saud!

Can you post one post on DP, without mentioning Israel?

I don't think you can. Telegraphing exactly what your purpose is here.

Elitism has no borders.

PEOPLE OPPOSING TYRANNY - Real Grass Roots!
Are you a POT or a PET - Person Embracing Tyranny?

I would think you would

I would think you would appreciate my consistency. I acknowledge that Israel is far from the only source of evil in the Middle East.

You are consistent.

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