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Absolute all time favorite Philosopher/Thinker

Ok, so in keeping with the trend on this forum to ask for the opinion of fellow DP'ers about their Favorite __________

This is going to be a tough one for me. There are many area's of philosophy. Many aren't even considered a philosophy, even though this is quite absurd. When i start pondering this question, the first thing comes to mind is "In what capacity?". I appreciate the Economic philosophy of Murray Rothbard and Adam Smith, The spiritual philosophy of Akbar the Great and Ghandi, John Wycliff as well as enlightened atheist thinkers of the 1700's. Moral Philosophy of Ayn Rand, and yet also that of Henry David Thoreau.

Shakespeare is known for incredibly complex and compelling analysis of the human condition(not to mention a blast to read), Tolstoy was brilliantly intricate and aware before he was an intellectual. The scientific philosophy of Leonard Susskind, Issac Newton, and of course Albert Einstien. I could go on. I could bring up many thinkers that are alive today. Many people who don't spend their time pondering the questions of existence, and morality, spirituality, and yet are better equiped to answer them than some of the names i have already listed. For the record, there are opinions of these thinkers that i don't share. Its generally the approach that is so admirable.

In the end i must choose. Its an artificial mandate that i impose on myself for the purpose of this thread.

Today i choose Blaise Pascal. Specifically for his work on faith, reason and totality.

What about you?



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I'm torn between Calvin and Hobbes...

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Lao Tzu and Chuang Tzu

As far as eastern thought goes. However, my favorite Taoist is an American mathematician named Raymond Smullyan. This book of his is sheer delight:

http://www.amazon.com/The-Tao-Silent-Raymond-Smullyan/dp/006...

There is a chapter in that book called "Is God a Taoist?," which I highly, highly recommend :)

EDIT: Found it online. This is not the complete chapter, but it is most of it:
http://www.mit.edu/people/dpolicar/writing/prose/text/godTao...

“The welfare of the people in particular has always been the alibi of tyrants.” — Albert Camus

Toss up

George Carlin, Doug Casey & Murray Rothbard

Late Comedian Bill Hicks

...brilliant wit and thought-provoker:

“Here is my final point...About drugs, about alcohol, about pornography...What business is it of yours what I do, read, buy, see, or take into my body as long as I do not harm another human being on this planet? And for those who are having a little moral dilemma in your head about how to answer that question, I'll answer it for you. NONE of your fucking business. Take that to the bank, cash it, and go fucking on a vacation out of my life.” ― Bill Hicks

“This is where we are at right now, as a whole. No one is left out of the loop. We are experiencing a reality based on a thin veneer of lies and illusions. A world where greed is our God and wisdom is sin, where division is key and unity is fantasy, where the ego-driven cleverness of the mind is praised, rather than the intelligence of the heart.” ― Bill Hicks

“Why is marijuana against the law? It grows naturally upon our planet. Doesn’t the idea of making nature against the law seem to you a bit . . . unnatural?” ― Bill Hicks

:)

“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.”
- President John F. Kennedy

Hicks is my favorite comedian

with George Carlin placing a close second.

I was listening to Joe Rogan talk about when he used to do comedy shows alongside Hicks and Rogan said that Hicks based much of his philosophic material off of Terence McKenna's work. Really made sense to me to hear that.

The band Tool (great band) also collaborated with Hicks. Tool also recruited visionary artist Alex Grey to design the cover art on their "10,000 Days" album.

As a band, Tool has philosophic influence; if not directly in most of their songs, then indirectly via their connection with Grey and Hicks and transitively to McKenna by Hicks' connection to him.

I was just coming here to

I was just coming here to post Bill Hicks.

I wish I could say Henry David Thoreau, Lysander Spooner, Murray Rothbard, ect... I'm pretty sure I'd love those guys, but truth is I haven't read much of their stuff... but I have spent hours on you-tube listening to old bill hicks interviews.

Doug Stanhoppe is another brilliant mind.

comedians sometime make the best philosophers

Let's not forget the great George Carlin

“The welfare of the people in particular has always been the alibi of tyrants.” — Albert Camus

Exactly!

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"Air is the very substance of our freedom, the substance of superhuman joy....aerial joy is freedom."--Gaston Bachelard--

Dr. Georgi

So many philosophers so

So many philosophers so little time.

a. Dostoyevsky.
b. Viktor Frankl - man's search for meaning.
c. Don Juan Matus.

BTW - Professor Sadler has great philosophy lectures in youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Hh8OGEsmqA

But of course Jesus Christ is the Alpha and the Omega.

Cheers

Rene Descartes

Rene Descartes may not be the greatest philosopher of all time but he proved without a doubt that life is not an illusion and the fact that you exist can easily be proven logically.

" I think therefor I am " ---Rene Descartes

Cogito sum Thinking and being are the same.

Below deng's bartender joke highlights the problem of making being a condition of thinking. (If I think then I am)

The joke also confuses being with existence. Great stuff.

Free includes debt-free!

Prove that you think.

Prove that you aren't just an illusion I've placed in front of myself to give myself someone to talk to.

Free market capitalism isn't right for America because it works better. It's right because it's free (and it works better).

grief

It seems that if the person in front of you were an illusion then it would be possible to re-illusion them back into existence after their death, especially if the death was a mother's young child. How many mothers through the ages must have lost their child prematurely and yearned them to be alive again, yet it never happens. Therefore, I'm convinced that the person in front of me is real.

Anything beyond my own self certainty is not my problem.

If you are haunted with phantoms, are they friendly spirits?

Free includes debt-free!

I also was going to mention

I also was going to mention this quote, but for a different reason. The rest of his work was an attempt to prove anything and he reasoned that most everything was impossible to prove. To me he highlighted the uncertainty in life, the need for something else besides proof. Reason alone is not enough. I cannot rest peacefully with his conclusion, "I think therefore I am". How many questions we have that we cannot answer! All is vanity! To fear God is the beginning of wisdom. The greatest evil a human can think is the following, "I am and there is no one else besides me." The early world emperors all said this in their hearts before they fell and returned to the dust from which they came.

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" I cannot rest peacefully with his conclusion, "I think therefore I am". How many questions we have that we cannot answer! All is vanity! To fear God is the beginning of wisdom."

Did you miss the part where not only he proved his own existence, but also deduced the existence of God from the fact of his own irrefutable existence?

Wow. Did he? Could you give

Wow. Did he? Could you give a brief explanation or would I have to read the book? How does Descartes do this?

Do you know the story about

Do you know the story about Descartes death?

He was in a bar with some friends. They had drank a couple of bottles of wine. The bartender asks Descartes - Hey Rene, do you want a beer?

Descartes responds - I don think.......

And he suddenly dissapears.

Who is John Galt?

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U. G.

Each individual - by virtue of his genetic structure - is unparalleled, unprecedented and unrepeatable.

You are only suffering because you want to be other than what you are.

I am not in conflict with society. I am not interested in changing it. The demand to bring about a change in myself isn't there anymore. So, the demand to change the world at large is not there. I suffer with the suffering man, and am happy with the happy man.

The 'Natural State' is acausal; it just happens. The mystique of enlightenment is based upon the idea of transforming yourself. I maintain that there is nothing to change or transform. Consciousness is so pure that whatever you are doing in the direction of purifying that consciousness is adding impurity to it.

Nature is busy creating absolutely unique individuals, where as culture has invented a single mold to which all must conform. It is grotesque.

Only if you reject all the other paths can you discover your own path.

ANARCHY: "If you say it is anarchy, if I may define anarchy in my own particular and peculiar way, is a state of being and not a state of doing. An anarchist, if there is one in this world, never destroys anything. Because if he tries to destroy the world around him, he is also destroying himself. Anarchy is not the right word to use, but I maintain that if there is a state of anarchy, it is a state of being and not a state of doing. No action is born out of the state of anarchy. You will never be an anarchist to destroy anything because he cannot separate himself from the world around, the life around." - U. G. Krishnamurti

Feeling Fear? You're living in the future.
Feeling Depressed? You're living in the past.
Who would you be without your story? —Byron Katie

When the desire to bring about a change in you is not there,
the demand to change the world is not there eit

Favorite Scientist: Candace B Pert <3 <3 <3

Candace Beebe Pert (June 26, 1946 – September 12, 2013) was an American neuroscientist and pharmacologist who discovered the opiate receptor, the cellular binding site for endorphins in the brain.

She was dedicated to bridging the gap between science and spirituality.
She taught us how the BodyMind functions as a single psychosomatic network of informational molecules which deeply influence our health and happiness and, in a way that includes yet transcends left-brained scientific inquiry, she guides us in how to utilize this knowledge to enhance our lives with spiritual and emotional paths to healing.

She has spent the last 28 years pursuing research to create a non-toxic treatment and a vaccine for HIV/AIDS.

I loved her book, "your body is your subconscious mind", and "molecules of emotions".
To purchase any of her books, audio cds, or posters try going to her website:

http://candacepert.com/products/pain-and-pleasure-posters/

Today its John Coltrane

For what I like to refer to "spontaneous order applied to musical creativity without authoritarian control"

Also a historian who deserves an Honorable mention is George Mosse. He has absolutely the most incredible insight into the enlightenment age that I have been privileged to hear.

Actually I take that back.

Today it will be George Mosse for his analysis of the enlightenment age and the moral, artistic, scientific, and political philosophies that spawned from it.

Honorable mention will go to John McWhorter, who treats language, and linguistic fallacies the way I treat politics and economics and arrives at much the same conclusion.

Sorry John, maybe if you survived your thirties, you might have made the list.

Séamusín

Murphy

"He who has the gold makes the rules"
"A Smith & Wesson beats four aces."

Terence McKenna

He had a way to really draw you in to what he was saying, and conveyed his concepts eloquently.

He was truly a free-minded, free-spirited individual who has had a profound impact on many lives and continues to impact upon lives thirteen years after his death.

I'm sure many people would have not tried or even been familiar with DMT if it were not for McKenna's riveting talks and writings about the substance.

One can only imagine how different things would look if the man were alive today.

Bill3

Bill3

Mitt Romney.

Mitt Romney.

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lol

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besides the obvious...

Yeshua, I would say Frederic Bastiat and GK Chesterton

Preaching to the Choir

I'm probably preaching to the choir, but I honestly feel there is no philosophy as applicable and necessary to the world today than the Objectivism of Ayn Rand. It is devoid of all mysticism and is hyper critical of any irrational thought. It extols and champions the rational human mind above all else, and the moral responsibility of all of us to achieve our own happiness. Her message is empowering and truly libertarian: that each of us is a marvelous end in itself, with the awesome power of the reasoning human mind, that our potential through productive work is unlimited, so long as no one obligates our productivity to "the good" of any obscure definition of "society."