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As many as 17 trackers on this site

For fun, I loaded Lightbeam into Firefox. It shows as many as 17 trackers on this site, gathering info on everyone for various corporations.

I found this odd on a website that seemed opposed to this kind of thing.

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I own several websites. What

I own several websites. What you are seeing is code for the ads. Google and others check to see the click-through rates and number of ad requests there are. These require cookies. If the website owner wants to see what country and what pages visitors are viewing, then you have additional "trackers." It isn't odd at all for those who want to make a living.


These trackers are from the very ads that pay for this site and keep it running. If you don't like them, you could block them with an addon, but if it's such a big deal you should consider becoming a premium member. Either way, just set your browser to delete all cookies on close, and close your browser often and by for the most part you won't be tracked.


Just download Ghostery and block all these trackers...

Problem solved.

Trackers on the Paul

Every time I turn on my computer, I consider that anything and everything I do, including stuff on my desktop while I have a window open, is being watched. I have computers that DON'T ACCESS ANY INTERNET. In fact, I consider coming to the Daily Paul, as my favorite way to Fuck the NSA. There are no true public spaces in the real world anymore, this and other virtual spaces may have replaced them forever, much as the Mall replaced the public square. Trackers, I thought the internet was UNREGULATED, so whats the problem with tracking? I honestly think that when we said, 'Don't regulate the internet' that we mean it, and I can live with knowing they listen. Just don't forget... 'Never light a fuse with an accomplice.' The true patriot works alone, and the real change we seek will be had only through direct citizen action. Never put your business in the street, and the internet is a super highway. Get it? You know 'IT' is watching, you are in the public, so... put on some clothes, and 'keep some cover on it'. If you require sharing time, the RC confessional is always open, someplace. And if you need peer accolades, OK. Then teach me an good way to bitch slap the government tomorrow.

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Great addition, but one concern.

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Great find Steve

This is why I am not going to turn on the "contribute" button at the top right, probably ever, lol. As far as I know it stays in your local PC until you share the info?

Unconstitutional War - "The story you are about to hear is true; the names and places are being changed to protect the guilty."

YAY lightbeam

so i just got it and used it to block all those trackers many of my web pages are sketchy ad free now!!!@#@$!@#%!@#%!!@#$% goto hell pop ups, i dont care what your "secret" is im not clicking on you.


Noscript addon

I've been using Firefox's Noscript add-on for years to block java script. The add-on can be a bit frustrating because you have to allow individual addresses to use javascript but it really does illustrate how many different companies are running scripts on ordinary pages.

Just keep in mind that most

Just keep in mind that most of these websites wouldn't be online without advertiser support. I have three websites myself and wouldn't give them the time of day without monetary compensation. I do agree with you on the pop-ups, however. Those are too intrusive.

Lightbeam is far superior

and also has the same function without requiring you to accept "All or nothing". Seriously disable the no script and install lightbeam. It will let you disable them one by one as you like instead of "All or none".

Unconstitutional War - "The story you are about to hear is true; the names and places are being changed to protect the guilty."

NoScript allows fine grained control as well. I'm not sure why

people keep saying otherwise.

(nothing against LightBeam, I might try it myself)

I really liked Ghostery, but it brought my system to a crawl on too many occasions. (part of why I installed it - to disable junk on pages that was eating the CPU)

What NoScript certainly has done for me is make prominent just how much CRAP poor web designers use on their pages. There seems to be a disease of cut and paste code instead of truly developing a site in a customized fashion. Sure, one doesn't need to re-invent the wheel, but when you use JS for simple things like NAVIGATION, it really shows you have no skills. It also pisses off users because your 54 levels of nested scripts can choke even the fastest of processors with gobs of ram at their disposal. That's just pure pointlessness.

I'm all for any extension that exposes the disaster that is still the Web.

I hear you

As for coding I'm trying to figure out why they insist on putting in so much "White space"? Then the self credits included don't help either. I think you will like it even if you add to what you already have. I like the "Watch" feature it has.

Unconstitutional War - "The story you are about to hear is true; the names and places are being changed to protect the guilty."

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my thoughts when this last came up:

"You underestimate the character of man." | "So be off now, and set about it." | Up for a game?

WAIT, I must defend the DP on this!

I too have been using lightbeam for a couple of days now and there are some things you might want to review. First it is only adding up the links that are included in posts and replies. If you notice there are no "Blue" lines. "Blue" lines mean tracking cookies, there are none that I have found yet. I have been keeping a very close eye on how it works.

Unconstitutional War - "The story you are about to hear is true; the names and places are being changed to protect the guilty."

M doesnt really controll that

its not a situation where they say hey Micheal let us use 17 trackers on your website and we'll give you "X" dollars. its an invasive thing that's basically like an internet wide virus or worm that travels along adds and links.

if YOU did this at home, you'd be arrested, imprisoned and fined you damn hacker!!!!

also does anyone else think targeted advertising is backfiring. for example i really was looking into buying a Subaru crosstrek next day all the adds on website were for it now i dont want it at all.


Every time I watch a Spanish music video I get ads in spanish...

which I don't speak (yet).

see for yourself:

I agree: 'smart' advertising is dumb.

Chris Indeedski!

Daily Paul cured my abibliophobia.


Download it and disable "Google adsense" and that might quit. It has made my experience 100 times better here.

Unconstitutional War - "The story you are about to hear is true; the names and places are being changed to protect the guilty."

Is facebook buttons considered a tracker in lightbeam?

Because I consider those to be trackers.

Also I use noscript plugin to block all facebook traffic from my browser.


"Take hold of the future or the future will take hold of you." -- Patrick Dixon

No, It is because someone linked to face book.

This happens when someone links to facebook or youtube etc. It remains in your lightbeam history even though you did not actually visit the page or watch the video. Most of the rest are just alternating ad connections.

Unconstitutional War - "The story you are about to hear is true; the names and places are being changed to protect the guilty."



apparently ads have been

apparently ads have been known to use them, and as much as i understand big m has to do something to get revenue and perhaps a little left over for him, which is fine by me, i do wish there were a way without the invasive like manner, never know what tomorow will bring

in the meantime, i'd suggest who have firefox to instal "self destructing cookie", it deletes cookies from sites as long as all tabs TO that site is closed, aswell as when you close and then reopen the browser, unless you immediatly or within a predefined few seconds go to the site, which is handy when there is a site you relatively trust and visit regurlarly, and dont want to constantly sign in edit: as long as one tab to that site has been kept also detects tracker like cookies and deletes them imediatly, i dont know how effective this is though, maybe, folks can test with these two add ons, as in the one i mention, and the one in the op

How many government agencies

How many government agencies are showing?

None come out and declare

None come out and declare themselves to be government. Unless you count Google, of course. :-) Then there are at least 4 from Google alone.

It's funny. They seem to vary over time. A new hub just opened up., tied by Google Analytics and

Please add me as the 18th tracker.

It's spelled 'Cudnoski' though you can pronounce the invisible 'w' if you like.

Chris Indeedski!

Daily Paul cured my abibliophobia.

Trackers are found in the

Trackers are found in the various cookies placed by the browser on your computer to keep track of how many times you visited the site, etc.

You might be the first cracker? :-) Wise?

At any rate, I enjoy your stuff.


cracker-wise? That's cute. Gramma woulda called you a


But back to the trackers, I believe at least one of them sends a direct-line alert to the trolls to jump on a thread and pounce it. I've experimented with this notion often by posting intentionally 'troll-friendly' posts and gauging the response. As well as other threads that lend themselves to trolling. It seems to be the ones that are speculative that get the most attention. Those and the ones about something that is demonstrably false seem to get kicked back into conversation in probably some discrediting ploy.

Will be interesting to see if the number of trackers drops off at 5:00 Utah local time...

Chris Indeedski!

Daily Paul cured my abibliophobia.


I prefer "fartist"

Now lets watch google track that!

It's gramma talk. It means 'Smart Feller'.

As in 'Ben Franklin was a fart smeller.'

That's a great '45. Are you a buttcoin trader?

Chris Indeedski!

Daily Paul cured my abibliophobia.