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Israel to Give Pope "Legal Custody" of Temple Mount & Holy Land

December 2013 should see the conclusion of talks between the Vatican and Israel regarding Israel's legal custody transfer of Holy sites to the Vatican.


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Now this was an honest answer

Thank you for looking at it with an open mind. We cannot support or decry a faith unless we truly understand it in fact. We have no right to judge until we can truly judge without prejudice. This is when we find we are not so different from one another.

If I disappear from a discussion please forgive me. My 24-7 business requires me to split mid-sentence to serve them. I am not ducking out, I will be back later to catch up.

What are you talking about...

The current conflict people are dying over is about the state of Israel existing. The Temple Mount is just one small aspect of the conflict, and is certainly NOT the cause of it.

Please point out what I have said that is incorrect.

You didn't address one thing I said either. Just saying "Wrong", doesn't cut it. What specifically should I be looking up, when I go do the "homework" you've assigned me?

You've been doing research to "prove religions wrong"? LOL. So you are also apparently willing to bend the argument, an the facts, to fit your agenda of "proving religions (G-d) wrong".

I don't care if the archeologist that claims he made the discovery of a lifetime, is Jewish, Muslim, or a freakin' Martian. I am skeptical of the conclusion he has drawn, based on the facts/lack-thereof.

PEOPLE OPPOSING TYRANNY - Real Grass Roots!
Are you a POT or a PET - Person Embracing Tyranny?

I work from facts

I first read what was written and the timelines in the Bible and then try to prove the stories written as gospel using facts. So far I have been very unsuccessful and have changed direction.

If I disappear from a discussion please forgive me. My 24-7 business requires me to split mid-sentence to serve them. I am not ducking out, I will be back later to catch up.

What we're arguing about happened way after the Bible period(s).

So, again, where are you getting your point from.

How is the Israel/Palestine conflict, and the small aspect of that conflict that involves the Temple Mount, a "Lie"?

Is the conflict non-existent? Or are you just saying it's over a stupid reason, iyho?

You seem to think that Jews &/or Christians think that Islam destroyed the Holy Temple...
No Jews, or Christians, have ever claimed that. The (2nd) Temple was destroyed in 70 A.D. by the Romans...
In 691 A.D., over 600!years after the destruction of the Temple, the Dome of the Rock was completed.
Islam was invented about 610 A.D., and by 637 A.D. this religion had spread over all/most of Arabia, and had come to conquer Jerusalem from the Byzantine Romans. The 'Dome' was completed in 691 A.D., and the subsequent Muslim occupation of Israel/"Palestine" (the name changed by the Romans to insult the conquered Jews, based on the biblical enemy 'Philistines') led to the First Crusade to take back the Holy Land/Israel roughly 400 years later.

In some ways the LONG TERM conflict does go back to that period, but it is NOT over the destruction of the Temple, because it was long ago destroyed. The LONG TERM conflict has been between the Muslims, and Templar Christians/Roman Empire.

NOW, however, the JEWS, whose land it RIGHTFULLY is, HAVE IT BACK! The Muslims/Arabs still want to own it, and so does the Evil (Roman) Empire! BUT IT BELONGS TO THE JEWS!!!

We ARE in the END TIMES! As evidenced by the prophesy of the Jews RETURN coming true! The Conflict, of all the nations coming against Israel, to claim it for themselves, is happening now!

They will all FAIL! The Messiah is Coming!!!

PEOPLE OPPOSING TYRANNY - Real Grass Roots!
Are you a POT or a PET - Person Embracing Tyranny?

Classic rant.

Which Bible? the Geneva or KJV?

one showed up...oh, about 1550 years after the fact. my bad AD.
the other showed up about 1620 years after the fact.

meanwhile...back at the farm.
remember, remember, the 5th of November.

Yep

One must take that into consideration too man. The gospels were not written by those they were named after were they? I have notebooks full of "facts" about this stuff.

If I disappear from a discussion please forgive me. My 24-7 business requires me to split mid-sentence to serve them. I am not ducking out, I will be back later to catch up.

...don't know much about the "anti" stuff....

...but WOW....that's one heck of a land grab...!!!

Smart.

It's better than giving it to the UN and over to UN control as the US has done with it's "holy sites", i.e. national parks.

Giving something that is not

Giving something that is not there's to give I see..

Well, some interpreters of REVELATION do...

identify the Pope as the Antichrist.

I have heard the Black Pope reffered to as such

and now that there is Jesuit White Pope...well I personally don't think it is good news especially considering the criminal background of Pope Francis.

Others argue that

Revelation already happened; given the EXTREMELY bizarre imagery, it's difficult to interpret, but I've seen an excellent case made that Revelation refers to the downfall of Rome and other events around that time period.

Personally, I don't take any claim seriously that refers to an individual as "the Antichrist." The fact is, "antichrist" is in no way an apocalyptic, end-times image. It's anyone who actively goes against the teachings of Christ. People latched on to it for some reason and made it a MUCH bigger deal than it actually is.

Must watch

www.youtube.com/watch?v=zASWUqMm_JM

A good way to defend your freedoms: www.libertymagazine.org

Looks very intriguing

Added to watch later list. Thank you