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Rand Paul: Don't Vote Libertarian!

Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., on Thursday urged Virginia Republicans supporting Robert C. Sarvis, the Libertarian candidate for governor, to come home to the GOP and vote for Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli, the party’s nominee.

“I consider myself to be a libertarian conservative, a libertarian Republican,” Paul said in a phone interview Thursday. “A lot of things (Cuccinelli) talks about are free-market, limited-government, leave-me-alone government. I think there is a lot to like there.


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My sentiments exactly.

As someone who has voted for Libertarian Party candidates for president in the past 4 elections, I can say confidently that Sarvis is not a worthy choice. All of the naysayers are whining about the abortion issue, something that Ron Paul himself was never a supporter of. Are these fools libertarians or just feminists with a thirst for fetus blood?

“My attitude toward progress has passed from antagonism to boredom. I have long ceased to argue with people who prefer Thursday to Wednesday because it is Thursday.” - G.K. Chesterton

They are, in the most real sense of the word,


"Hence, naturally enough, my symbol for Hell is something like the bureaucracy of a police state or the office of a thoroughly nasty business concern." ~~C.S. Lewis
Love won! Deliverance from Tyranny is on the way! Col. 2:13-15

liberty does not equal

The libertarian party. Obama is completely on the ropes this evening. This election would keep obamacare out of VA. It also gets us closer to impeachment. Sarvis needs to get out on behalf of the country.

Mixed feelings here.

While I have some problems with Cuccinelli, Sarvis' support of open-borders is a deal breaker for me given that this would basically go in conjunction with strengthening collectivist voting blocks and continuing the perpetuation of the ongoing welfare state, to speak nothing for all the urban violence that tends to go with it.

The vast majority of people flooding into our borders of late are anti-libertarian, and the Libertarian Party has had this suicidal idealism when it comes to anyone moving anywhere (which in itself implies mass violation of property rights).

I'd say bite the bullet and support Cuccinelli on general principle.

“My attitude toward progress has passed from antagonism to boredom. I have long ceased to argue with people who prefer Thursday to Wednesday because it is Thursday.” - G.K. Chesterton

The challenge for Rand and

The challenge for Rand and the voters is to ever believe what the candidates are saying. There is now a history of promising the world with no accountability for failing to act on those promises. If Rand is trying to hold the Republican party together...Why?

you make a good point

you make a good point regardless of the minus votes

jamp foodler.

murmble skjug.

Don't feed the pandas. Ever.

Say it in your best Manchurian Candidate voice...

"Anything it takes to get Rand Paul elected President. Anything it takes to get Rand Paul elected President."

I've been done

voting is a waste of time. There are far more meaningful things to do, such as clean my toilet.

Rand didn't learn a damn thing from his dad's last presidential campaign

He should've stopped with

He should've stopped with just 'Don't vote' ;)

Rand's endorsing. Wink,wink, nod, nod

He's towing the party line
2012: Vote for Romney.
2013: Vote for Cuccinelli, Christie, Lonnegan
2014: Vote for McConnell and later to come (don't be surprised) Graham, Alexander, Cochran, etal.


Rand is always voting to keep the GOP status-quo in their positions of power and control.

So what do you all think he would then do if he were President? By aligning himself with the party establishment, he is doing exactly the same thing that Barack Obama did for the left.

Obama pretended to be a "progressive", yet contradicted himself by reappointing either the same Bush-Cheney people, or Corporatist, pro-war, right-wing Democrats for all of his trusted advisors and cabinet positions.

In short, he was a phony, and a political fraud. And he completely killed off the large movement on the left to stop the wars, jail the torturers, kill the U.S. Patriot Act, etc. ... as they felt that they didn't want to be seen to be against a "democratic" president.

So Rand is headed down exactly the same path here. He will kill off the whole Libertarian movement, because he continues over and over again to embrace himself with just status-quo, Orwellian, GOP reich-wingers (which is not libertarian at all).

You judge a man not by his words, but by who he chooses to associate and surround himself with. Its that simple.

If you want change, then you're friends must be people who are your allies in that change. But if your friends are just status-quo party people, then there ain't no change a commin folks.....


he's one heck of a checker player.

the devil's bargain is always the worst bargain of all.

He Will Not Endrose Graham Or McCain


Rand has to endorse McConnell by semi-secret party rule.

Ron Paul has explained that the GOP requires its elected officials to endorse all incumbents from one's home state. It's why Ron Paul curiously endorsed Sheriff Mack's opponent.

"Bipartisan: both parties acting in concert to put both of their hands in your pocket."-Rothbard

Sarvis is not...

a Libertarian. He's a Centrist that could very well be a Democrat plant. He is playing his role as spoiler. If McAuliffe wins Virginia then Hillary wins The White House. The Paul's know this which is why they are backing Cuccinelli. This is all about 2016. We either win it or we lose it right here in Virginia.


would the democrats help the Libertarians qualify for major party status? Bothe dems and repubs don't want to debate a Libertarian. Could be the dems are desperate?

Label Jars, Not People!

10% of the vote

Will guarantee a Libertarian is included in the next election debates. Sarvis does not have to be elected for liberty to win!

Label Jars, Not People!


Is not Romney. He is a very conservative candidate. If he were running and not Romney I would have voted for him and not Gary Johnson. This guy is a solid conservative.

thanks rand

At this point given the outright communism in the white house and the fact that we have almost completed the conversion of the conservative movement, forget the Libertarians and vote for the liberty Republicans. We can make further incursions in the 14 Primaries.

C4L sucks

they put party over principle

“Although it was the middle of winter, I finally realized that, within me, summer was inextinguishable.” — Albert Camus

yes and Campaign for Liberty is a front for Republican only

I recall there was a detailed posting on this site by Tish Casida, when she ran as an independent for Congress in one of the Colorado districts. Great candidate. Campaign for Liberty would not back her because they ONLY back Republicans. I lost all my respect for Campaign for Liberty a long time ago, and after reading Tish's post, I made sure that they quit sending me their spam and junk mail. (I had never even asked them to send me their junk in the first place.)

I don't blame Sarvis for not filling out their survey.

the link misrepresents Sarvis' positions

For example, it states that Sarvis is not in favor if tax cuts. That's a bunch of crap.
If you go to Sarvis' website and read his issues, he is very specific about tax cuts. Among others, he is in favor of greatley reducing or ELIMINATING the state income tax in Virginia. That seems pretty significant.

The article also lies, and is trying to make people believe that Sarvis is some type of advocate of Obamacare. Again, if you read Sarvis website, he specifically states that federalization of healthcare creates problems, and he opposes that.

It is very pathetic that people have to lie about a 3rd party candidates positions in order to promote the Republican candidate, I guess because people aren't buying it that Cucinelli is some type of "liberty" politician. It is really ashame that Ron & Rand decided to involve themselves in the Virginia governor election muddle.


Quoting from Robert Sarvis' Twitter account, https://twitter.com/RobertSarv...

"He hasn't endorsed miles-driven taxes spec, just incl it among exs of closer to user-pays than sales-tax funding of rds."

"he's never talked about requiring GPS anything on cars."

"Sarvis has vigorously denounced the surveillance state and is certainly opposed to that kind of solution."

Label Jars, Not People!

Death Penalty

I support reforms that would reduce error in the system and disincentive the seeking of the death penalty, such as making extra resources available to the defense whenever prosecutors seek the death penalty. ~Robert Sarvis

I really dont think this is a libertarian position to me. Since when does Government have any authority to take a person's life? An eye for an eye makes everyone blind.

His name is Edward Snowden

What is Capitalism?

actually that is undefined

The Libertarian Party (if you acknowledge that they are a fairly good reference for the issues) named several topics where there is not an absolute libertarian stand. These include: abortion (most libertarian candidates are pro-choice, but they acknowledge that there are valid libertarian arguments for pro-life) and the death penalty. The biggest libertarian argument against the death penalty (if I am recalling correctly) is that the government is simply too incompetent to be entrusted with that type of power.

You are correct. Ron Paul changed positions based on this fact.

The death penalty is the only major example of a position change by Ron Paul that I have ever been able to find.

Don't feed the pandas. Ever.

only thing voting for the NeoCon's favorite candidate Sarvis

is getting McAuliffe elected and making it easy for Hillary to steal the state come 2016

One Happy

Sarvis voter here... I'll be damned if I get pigeon-holed into voting for a Republican out of fear mongering... If they had a good enough candidate they wouldn't have to worry about it. I don't want Cuch or McAuful. I'll end up with one of them and unfortunately that choice will be made by morons... in either case Red and Blue play for the same team.