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I am SICK of you Whiners!

I want to ask ALL of you SOMETHING.

Were YOU a Ron Paul delegate at the National Convention?!!?!?!


Then you CANNOT complain about anything EVER!

You will say that it's sooooo hard to do something like that. All with the internet and airplanes and having to perhaps pay $1000 to get there.

Well let me ask you something?!?!? What would the founders who spend days on wagons to get to meetings say about that?!?!!

The WAY to SAVE the country is to be a DELEGATE. Do you get that?!?!?!??!!?


You cannot just type all sorts of stuff on dailypaul and expect things to change.


Who will you be a delgate for in 2016??!?!?!?!?!

If you are not going to be a DELGATE stop complaining!!!!!!!!!!!

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I don't think it matters.

I don't believe we can get to where we want to be through the political process.

As far as I'm concerned unless everyone in the "liberty movement" is willing to pay the ultimate price for liberty, nothing is really going to change, and I just don't see that happening in my lifetime.


To all the whining...please do NOT paint EVERONE here with such a broad stroke of YOUR brush....Just a thought.


"Beyond the blackened skyline, beyond the smoky rain, dreams never turned to ashes up until.........
...Everything CHANGED !!

+100 (If I could)


"We are not human beings having a spiritual experience; we are spiritual beings having a human experience"—Pierre Teilhard de Chardin

I Almost Got Arrested

...While "bull-horning" the NBC Chris Matthews Show being broadcast in the food court across the street.,,,Hahahah!!!


"Beyond the blackened skyline, beyond the smoky rain, dreams never turned to ashes up until.........
...Everything CHANGED !!

you mean...

"Yea, yea, yea, yea, yea... yea, yea, yea... yea, yea, yea, you went there."

"We are not human beings having a spiritual experience; we are spiritual beings having a human experience"—Pierre Teilhard de Chardin

Well... I'm Canadian so................

But I'm doing what is within my power to do, one of which is stand alongside my fellow neighbours to the south and spread ideas and Truth. I didn't know this rEVOLustion was for American citizens ONLY. I think it's too late for me to opt out, though.

Some guy named Hemingway once said:

“There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self.”

Maybe it's the Canadian in me, but your "tone" is coming off a bit rude and non-inclusive. We can't all do EVERYTHING but we can all do SOMETHING.

Just sayin'

"We are not human beings having a spiritual experience; we are spiritual beings having a human experience"—Pierre Teilhard de Chardin

GREAT Hemingway Quote!

...and I'd suspect that Dr. Paul subscribed to that philosifical view ... (did I spell that correctly? oh well).

"Beyond the blackened skyline, beyond the smoky rain, dreams never turned to ashes up until.........
...Everything CHANGED !!

NOBODY 2016!

True statesmen are nearly non-existent. Even if we did come together to support one in RP; his successor would likely be powerless to resist the temptation to supposed authority just like every politician before him. We need to realize that the American experiment was that of limited government and a necessary evolutionary step toward self governance. Non-Aggression Principle & Non-Violent Communication will take us along way to that end.

Oh, stop whining about whiners.

1) If you vote for candidate A and he wins, you can't complain when he becomes a disappointment because you voted for him.
2) You voted for candidate A and he loses; You can't complain because you accepted the system as implemented, and its outcome, by participating.
3) You didn't vote; You can't complain because you had an opportunity to affect the outcome of the election, and didn't take it.

It is all a charade. The game is fixed, but political addicts play because it is the only game in town.

[F]orce can only settle questions of power, not of right. - Clyde N. Wilson

Yes, but there is one thing that you left out.

If you don't play, they win every single time.

While we are on this Earth, it is what it is.

"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul

C'mon people, it's time to all get on the same page!

Being a delegate is NOT the solution. Sure, it could be but we all know exactly how rigged that game is and unless we can fight back every bit of that, we'll just waste more time again.

The media has the power of popular opinion. It sucks, but it's true. With their current power, they can easily sway the vast and unshrinking public television viewing audience to believe anything they want. Going after this problem might prove easier than taking over the government, but still, it's not so easy to kickstart the purchase of ABC, NBC & CBS.

Corporations and banks yield all the control at this point. They massively control entire markets in every single industry. And the one where corporations have no power, finance, is where the banks have unquestioned power. Where does all this power come from, you ask? It's from simply having all that wealth. So the solution is simple...

Don't give any money to either of them. Stop banking in their institutions and wean ourselves off every product made by an industrial monopolist. This solution may sound hard at first, but it's something that can be done by the people all at once or in waves. More action will also garner more support, making it self supporting. It is also the one single solution that's immediately in the best interests of those who partake. In this way, I see this as the obvious, no-brainer choice.


Mic Shuts Off When Reading Ron Paul's Votes At RNC

Reince Priebus discusses nomination of Ron Paul at RNC

So are they going to cheat and up the number again???????????????

Reality Check: RNC Pulling Out All Stops To Keep Ron Paul's Name Out Of Nomination

Fox News: Ron Paul has qualified for nomination at the R N C

Good collection of vids showing Republican bias against RP

Then they wonder why they lost?

Don't worry....

There won't be any of that sort of stuff this next time...because delegates won't be there supporting anyone like Ron Paul this next time. There will be no one under consideration of which the establishment is afraid.

What a dumb post

Same logical fallacy of people who say "if you don't vote, you can't complain". BS! I have not voted for a Republican or a Democrat for a long time - sometimes that leaves me with no one to vote for. I can complain because my fellow citizens are stupid, that is enough.

And, I tried to become a delegate. I worked long hours at the risk of my marriage both times to get national delegates elected - with success at the district level. So....F*** You!

"In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot."--Mark Twain

It seems to me people are forgetting what happened..

Proof Ron Paul delegates submitted nomination paper at 2012 RNC

Video of RNC Teleprompter Showing Results of Scripted Voting Before Voting Finished

How Ron Paul Was Cheated Out Of Presidency

RNC Sham 2012

Outrages While Polling the State Delegates at the RNC Convention 8-28-12

Ron Paul's Maine Delegates Walked Out of Sham Republican Convention After Being Cheated

If there were 10 times as

If there were 10 times as many delegates, Ron Paul would be President.


those local delegate meetings started at like 7am!!!

Who do they think we are starting that early?

Sweatshop employees? Sheesh

"The WAY to SAVE the country is to be a DELEGATE. "

Did 2008 and 2012 teach you anything..

The way ahead is cleaning house, all 535.
Term limits, campaign funding restrictions and vested interest exclusions.
The problem is two fold, Greed and Power, and one feeds off the other; both lead to corruption, and the end result is control, absolute control.. that's where you are right now.

"Hell is empty, and all the devils are here" (Shakespeare)
RP 2012~ Intellectual Revolution.

Oh so you don't want to be a

Oh so you don't want to be a delegate then.

You'd rather get hundreds of more idiots in.


tell me what the Ron Paul delegates accomplished. An outside venue from the convention? Boy howdy!!!! That got their attention.
People spent a lot of time, energy and money to be excluded from the nominee process. Playing by the rules doesn't work when "they" get to change the rules at any moment.
I have no answers as to how we can take back our "government" but I do know that being a delegate doesn't get you squat. Well maybe a broken hip or a bunch of broken fingers.
Sad but true, we are going to have to water that tree.

Formerly rprevolutionist

There wasn't enough of us. We

There wasn't enough of us. We need more delegates and more in position. More. More. More. Our work is not done.

They showed up.

Their bodies were present. Their brave stories of unjustice were told. People the world over learned that Ron Paul delegates don't give up! And we are "legion", to borrow a pretty cool term.

The broken bones, arbitrary rules and treachery were displayed for all thinking people to behold the true face of the enemies of freedom.

We lost the corrupted election, but hands down won the war of public perception.

We wouldn't allow it to be said our liberty candidates have no delegates or supporters. The videos don't lie, and people believe in the cause of freedom just a little more, thanks to our delegates.

We may never win an election for the White House. What do you expect with rigged elections, paid-for media and corrupt opponents? But if you change your perception, you'll see that this office doesn't matter any more than did the English throne in 1776.

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-- Walter Lippmann

Are you

from Maine?

So ideas and opinions should no longer be judged on merrit?

...they should instead be judged by whether or not the holder of such ideas was a delegate for Ron Paul in the 2012 election.

So that makes, what, some 150 people capable of worthwhile ideas? To everyone else: shut up.

The truth is, exchanging ideas and taking action is not an either/or proposition...we should be encouraging people to do both!

I actually was

a delegate. But got beat out in NJ to the Chris Christie slate. But I still was at the National Convention supporting friends who were Ron Paul delegates. It was a mess. Lots of corruption. Buses were getting lost with delegates in them. They pushed us to the back of the convention and pushed the sheep up front next to the microphones. And much much more, but those ones pissed me off the most.

Taking the revolution to the judicial branch

will be much more effective.

We know they are all breaking the law. We can use their tyranny against us to gather serious intelligence on every single member of the "courts" who obstruct justice and practice law from the bench.

The courts are suppose to be impartial and actually obeying the law to have any authority for enabling a Jury to their job. The people claiming to make up the courts are not obeying the law and they are enabling and conspiring to commit felony crimes against innocent people and to force the use of an unlawful tender upon the population. We can begin to use their stupid infractions they bring us in there for to have thoroughly prepared questions and challenges to subject matter jurisdiction and logically corner them to either disclose their crimes or set the precedent. We can also asymmetrically build crowd sourced intelligence dossiers on each of the most dangerous individual criminals demonstrating mens rea and corruption and target them for arrest by the people and do it all in broad daylight because it is our duty to uphold the law.

The psychos desperately want you to play their game of politics and accept policy as law for the people. The last thing they want you to do is actually use our system of self governance and supreme authority of our juries to actually uphold the law and bring them to justice. The courts are where they force you to be there so why not use it as an opportunity to publicly on the record point out their crimes. Also many times one can gain hard proof of perjury, extortion, fraud, or breach of duty on the record. We can all do this right now and all the time and we don't have to wait for elections that are not even designed for bringing justice to criminals.

The most powerful Law of Nature is Time. It is finite and we all will run out of it. Use this Law to your advantage, for it offers you infinite possibilities...

The delegate strategy can

The delegate strategy can work with enough numbers. Unfortunately they made that rule change that we now need to undo before 2016. Actually the real strategy is to get the local government positions and work our way up.

Please elaborate on the

Please elaborate on the entire strategy and the rule change. For everyone to view. thanks.